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[R] C:\CBBS>
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/01/94 20:23:56
Welcome updated 09/12/92; CBBS(R)/Chicago (312) 545-8086
YOU CAN SKIP TO LOGON by hitting ctl-K - view WE
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?n
What is your FIRST name?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930108.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/08/94 10:04:57
Welcome updated 09/12/92; CBBS(R)/Chicago (312) 545-8086
YOU CAN SKIP TO LOGON by hitting ctl-K - view WELCOME later with W command!
** WELCOME TO WARD AND RANDY'S CBBS(R)
** (COMPUTERIZED BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEM
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER:
CHRISTENS^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231608; next msg =46553; 382 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/04/94 @ 22:58, next msg was 46545
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to ab
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 4
KILLED. 1
SUMMARY. 25
2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46545,
]R,PIZZA.MAP,
E#46546,
]S,MESSAGE.X46,
01/05/94,00:17:13,231586,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,2
01/05/94,07:26:51,231587,2,JIMMY WU,chi,2
01/05/94,07:43:05,231588,2,EARL HALL,,2
01/05/94,11:02:18,231589,2,CLIFF SHARP,,
01/05/94,11:06:42,231590,2,CLIFF SHARP,,2
01/05/94,12:03:33,231591,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/05/94,13:09:28,231592,2,JOHN BAUSCHARD,,2
01/05/94,19:06:44,231593,2,D D,d,
01/05/94,23:10:27,231594,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#46547,7
01/06/94,09:39:09,231595,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/06/94,10:33:06,231596,2,CHAVALIN ARORA,,2
01/06/94,13:19:10,231597,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,1
01/06/94,22:16:32,231598,2,EDWARD MARSH,,3
01/06/94,23:39:37,231599,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
01/06/94,23:47:06,231600,2,MARK SMITHSON,Chicago/IL,3
01/07/94,02:26:25,231601,2,NICK STEWART,Chi_town,
E#46548,
01/07/94,08:16:47,231602,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/07/94,13:27:32,231603,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/07/94,22:16:45,231604,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,
E#46549,
E#46550,
01/07/94,23:20:54,231605,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,2
01/07/94,23:49:43,231606,2,MELVIN LEWIS,,
E#46551,
E#46552,35
01/08/94,08:56:21,231607,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
01/08/94,10:05:20,231608,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46545 01/04/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/16 YEARS!"
46546 01/04/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "CBBS 16TH ANNIV PARTY 2/19"
46547 01/05/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALL: "RECHARGABLE ALKALINES"
46548 01/07/94 NICK STEWART => ALL: "C"
46549 01/07/94 PHIL SCHUMAN => ALL: "CELLULAR PORTABLE FOR SALE"
46550 01/07/94 PHIL SCHUMAN => WARD: "DIGITAL MODEMS"
46551 01/07/94 MELVIN LEWIS => ALL: "WINDOWS & OS/2 COMMUNICATIONS"
46552 01/08/94 MELVIN LEWIS => SYSOP: "XMODEM DOCUMENTATION"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46545 is 09 line(s) on 01/04/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/16 YEARS!
Uh, I have some old logs - I can scan thru 'em, but I think I have the old
ones offline - perhaps on unreadable 800K media, heh - back when you could
buy a double-step (80-track) 5.25" low density drive, and pack 10 sectors
per track, getting 800K out of it - so I'd have to check how far back I
go.
I did find a couple logins from Jan '89 including your trying to help
someone with a TRS 4P hoping to get some DOS stuff going, you told 'em to
find a new home for it and buy another machine. heh.
Thanks for the congrats - hope you can make the party.
Msg 46546 is 01 line(s) on 01/04/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: CBBS 16TH ANNIV PARTY 2/19
Blank
Msg 46547 is 05 line(s) on 01/05/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to ALL re: RECHARGABLE ALKALINES
From the little I have read about them, they are new, specially designed
or formulated battries. You have to get the batteries and the special
recharger. While only assuming, if it were a special circuit in the
charger alone, they would market it to the world for use with standard
alkaline battries.
Msg 46548 is 00 line(s) on 01/07/94 from NICK STEWART
to ALL re: C
Msg 46549 is 11 line(s) on 01/07/94 from PHIL SCHUMAN
to ALL re: CELLULAR PORTABLE FOR SALE
I have 2 Motorola Ultra Classic Alpha's for sale.
These are the thin tall portable with 100 memory locations,
and each supports alphanumeric entries.
These would be a good deal for anyone just wanting to keep their number
and swapping into a portable - as the carriers usually rebate the dealers
for all NEW number activations with $200-$250 to offset the cost of a NEW
phone for a NEW customer. Existing customers wanting to change have to
bite the bullet.
I also have an older thicker Motorola portable 8000 that is numeric only,
and has 16 memory locations.
all are working and in service as I type.
Msg 46550 is 13 line(s) on 01/07/94 from PHIL SCHUMAN
to WARD re: DIGITAL MODEMS
is you think X.25 is a little scary. try 'digital modems'
this is the technology used by some credit card verification systems that
have the card swipe read and transmitted via originating modem to a 'digital'
device the looks at the T-1 bit stream (on one of the 24 or more channels)
and decodes the bit stream directly into data without converting to analog
and then passing the analog stream into a modem.
Another Digital Signal Processing technique is used to combine FAX data -
which of course is just V.29 9600 bps data streams into a mux for remote
office connections. Instead of chewing up 64kbs of a analog voice channel,
the mux merely carves out 9600 for the real fax data, and another 32kbs for
the compressed voice (or 16kbs, or even 8kbps) and leave the rest for any
kind of data. so on a single 56k line, you get FAX, voice line, and data
. neat huh ??
Msg 46551 is 18 line(s) on 01/07/94 from MELVIN LEWIS
to ALL re: WINDOWS & OS/2 COMMUNICATIONS
I am currently writing a Windows 3.0/3.1 communications program which was
initially to be used on my job (microwave radio tech) to communicate with
our HP1000 CP/M (LARSCAN 1000) alarm system. After successfuly completing
this portion of the program I decided to implement file xfer capabilities
in the program so that I could use it for all of my communications needs.
I have since been able to include XMODEM(Checksum)/(CRC) with excellent
results. I would be interested in any specific C or assembly examples of
ANY and ALL other transfer protocols. I may be reached via Compuserve Mail
through my user ID 72700,3275.
Also, I would be interested in any information or examples of Windows code
implementing serial or parallel communications. I have the terminal example
written by Brian Woodruff of Microsoft, but this example does not include
any mention of file xfer protocols or switching between 7E1-8N1-7E1.The
particular problem that I am having in this respect is that after the file
is transferred successfuly and I switch back to 7E1 I can transmit from my
keyboard to the remote system but I can't recieve from the remote system.
I would appreciate any input from anyone on this problem or the above mentined
protocol examples. Thanks, M. Glenn Lewis, Las Vegas, NV
Msg 46552 is 08 line(s) on 01/08/94 from MELVIN LEWIS
to SYSOP re: XMODEM DOCUMENTATION
I have an old copy of XYMODEM.DOC which I recieved from Compuserve and I was
able to implement the protocol in a Windows comm program (see message to ALL)
but I wanted to find out if there have been any "official" enhancements or
additions to this document since 1989. If so I may be reached via Compuserve
USER ID 72700,3275 if you have the time or maybe you could leave me a note
on this system directing me to the source of such information. I don't want
to take up any more of your time than neccessary so I'll cut it short with
a Thank You, M. Glenn Lewis, Automated Microwave West, Las Vegas, NV. Bye.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930110.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/10/94 02:17:39
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231627; next msg =46556; 375 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/08/94 @ 10:04, next msg was 46553
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 5
KILLED. 9
01/08/94,10:05:20,231608,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
01/08/94,10:20:56,231609,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
01/08/94,10:25:50,231610,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
01/08/94,11:38:19,231611,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46553,2
01/08/94,12:00:26,231612,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0
01/08/94,20:09:07,231613,2,JACK LEARY,,1
01/08/94,20:35:33,231614,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
01/08/94,20:40:10,231615,2,LUIS FREEZE,Chicago/ IL,2
01/08/94,21:42:36,231616,2,JACK LEARY,,2
01/09/94,03:55:01,231617,2,STAN SMITH,chicago/ill,5
01/09/94,04:01:05,231618,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
01/09/94,10:38:38,231619,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/09/94,13:33:59,231620,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2
01/09/94,18:32:11,231621,2,G DAVIDS,,5
01/09/94,19:57:48,231622,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
E#46554,
01/09/94,20:53:26,231623,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#46555,6
01/09/94,22:18:25,231624,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0
01/09/94,22:58:15,231625,2,DON PIVEN,,2
01/10/94,00:45:12,231626,2,ALEX ZELL,,4
]Just back from NYC. Only civilized city in the US,
ALEX ZELL,
01/10/94,02:17:42,231627,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46553 01/08/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MELVIN LEWIS: "R/XMODEM DOCUMENTATION"
46554 01/09/94 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "NEW LANDLINE BBS IN NW BURBS"
46555 01/09/94 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD: "PARTY"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46553 is 05 line(s) on 01/08/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MELVIN LEWIS re: R/XMODEM DOCUMENTATION
No, sorry, Glenn, '89 is way past anything I documented. SO I have
no idea of "latest" or who would approve changes, etc.
Saw your msg about switching between 7E1 and 8N1, sorry, no idea there
either - I've always used a comm program that just ignores parity and runs
at 8N1, and never had a system I couldn't connect to, so I never switch.
Msg 46554 is 04 line(s) on 01/09/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: NEW LANDLINE BBS IN NW BURBS
There is a new landline bbs, dedicated to survival/personal security/
emergency services topics, in NE Illinois. No fees, no file ratios for
emergency services personnel (upon request to the sysop). Call
708-587-2398, 14.4kb, 24 hours. Pretty busy, so keep trying
Msg 46555 is 06 line(s) on 01/09/94 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to WARD re: PARTY
If I were in Chicago, I'd be there. Alas, I am in NY. SIGH. Anyway,
I was on the system LONG before '89; certainly by '85. I was just
curious as to when I first got in (it was with a version of MDM7xxx
set up for a Kaypro, and the person who gave me the program, which I used
at first with a little Radio Shack 300 bps modem, thoughtfully left
CBBS-1 in the dialing directory.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/10/94 23:02:03
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231633; next msg =46556; 375 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/10/94 @ 02:17, next msg was 46556
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 5
KILLED. 9
SUMMARY. 25
type-8 log,ward c;or;*
01/10/94,02:17:42,231627,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
01/10/94,09:58:34,231628,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
01/10/94,14:20:53,231629,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/10/94,17:05:38,231630,2,NANCY OLESEN,chicago/ IL,5
01/10/94,18:53:05,231631,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/10/94,21:52:51,231632,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
01/10/94,23:02:07,231633,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
---- End of summary ----
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930113.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/14/94 00:19:40
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231667; next msg =46558; 377 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/10/94 @ 23:02, next msg was 46556
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 7
KILLED. 9
SUMMARY. 25
01/10/94,02:17:42,231627,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
01/10/94,09:58:34,231628,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
01/10/94,14:20:53,231629,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/10/94,17:05:38,231630,2,NANCY OLESEN,chicago/ IL,5
01/10/94,18:53:05,231631,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/10/94,21:52:51,231632,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
01/10/94,23:02:07,231633,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
01/10/94,23:05:10,231634,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
01/10/94,23:07:47,231635,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#46556,9
01/11/94,01:16:00,231636,2,CHARLES KUKULSKI,Westmont / IL,1
01/11/94,16:09:30,231637,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/11/94,16:43:33,231638,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0
01/11/94,18:04:21,231639,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/11/94,22:12:52,231640,2,BILL MATTSON,,4
01/12/94,10:01:36,231641,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/12/94,13:52:44,231642,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/12/94,15:32:44,231643,2,STEVE RYAN,,
01/12/94,17:19:47,231644,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
01/12/94,18:07:58,231645,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,5
01/12/94,18:37:22,231646,2,RICK SULLIVAN,,1
01/12/94,20:33:43,231647,2,DAVID BACHMAN,NASHVILLE/ TN,2
01/12/94,21:51:58,231648,2,JEFF AXELROD,chicago il,3
01/12/94,21:56:06,231649,2,JEFF AXELROD,,1
01/12/94,22:25:18,231650,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
01/13/94,00:47:42,231651,2,KEVIN PRECHT,Downers Grove,5
01/13/94,01:23:35,231652,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/13/94,02:54:52,231653,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,5
01/13/94,04:09:13,231654,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,11
01/13/94,04:42:29,231655,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,
01/13/94,05:07:14,231656,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,11
01/13/94,09:02:47,231657,2,ABU BAKAR,,
E#46557,
01/13/94,12:45:11,231658,2,SIDNEY BRATKOVICH,Niles/ IL,2
]Ward, What's up with 849-1132? Rec'd no answer... Has it been determined
who's doing the Jan APCU meeting? If it's Katz that's fine but I need
to know whether to prepare or not! Did Gary get in touch with you
on the room assignments (he had Stuart 104 for Jan/Feb and a diff.
room for Mar (althoughyou mentioned Mar would be downtown so that wouldn't
matter)....
SIDNEY BRATKOVICH,
01/13/94,14:38:32,231659,2,SCOTT WHITTLE,,
01/13/94,14:47:10,231660,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/13/94,15:08:17,231661,2,BEN TEIFELD,,0
01/13/94,15:34:11,231662,2,BEN CLARK,houston/ tx,6
01/13/94,16:46:03,231663,2,LA MONTE YARROLL,schaumburg Illinois,2
01/13/94,22:25:45,231664,2,BERNARD GOLDLUST,,2
01/13/94,23:48:35,231665,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0
01/14/94,00:11:53,231666,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,2
01/14/94,00:19:44,231667,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46556 01/10/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => ALL: "WINDOWS NT/ NT SERVER"
46557 01/13/94 ABU BAKAR => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/GOOD CONNECTION"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46556 is 08 line(s) on 01/10/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to ALL re: WINDOWS NT/ NT SERVER
Has anyone worked with NT in any depth. AS I have been reading the
reviews more closely, it seems that maybe it was a biger 'leap' in
technology then people are ready to accept on their desktop.
What about compatability? I know it supports, DOS, WIndows, OS/2 file
structure ( I don't know about runnning OS/2 in an NT window. that would
be neat) Mac file services, and multiple protocols easily.
If you are using it, where and why??? Is it ready to replace the
traditional Novell file server in today's office??
Msg 46557 is 06 line(s) on 01/13/94 from ABU BAKAR
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/GOOD CONNECTION
u're quite right, sometimes i can see the whole message full of quotes and j
just a few actual lines. that ain't writing a msg is all about right!?
it's right, the first BBS in the world should keep on running. it can act
as your computer answering machine. i'm trying to set up a msg based bbs here
alot off bbs in my country carry files and some echos. well, i just want to
make minne sort of like an answering machine.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930119.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/19/94 22:19:09
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231717; next msg =46561; 380 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/14/94 @ 00:19, next msg was 46558
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 9
KILLED. 9
SUMMARY. 25
01/19/94,22:19:12,231717,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
>Function:?type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
01/14/94,00:19:44,231667,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
01/14/94,01:24:51,231668,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,9
01/14/94,21:48:39,231669,2,LAWRENCE LINK,WESTMONT/ IL,3
01/14/94,21:56:59,231670,2,JASON WEISBERGER,Chicago,3
01/14/94,22:16:43,231671,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/14/94,23:05:42,231672,2,BILL MATTSON,,3
01/14/94,23:15:21,231673,2,DAN TREMITIERE,Chicago/ IL,1
01/15/94,02:55:37,231674,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,6
]Hello Ward; If I remember correctly, I started loggon on CBBS
around 1978. Congratulations on 16 years.
LARRY GLASSMAN,
01/15/94,11:02:36,231675,2,ED FOSTER,,1
01/15/94,12:07:25,231676,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
01/15/94,13:56:04,231677,2,JOYCE JONSONS,Chicago,7
01/15/94,15:08:44,231678,2,BILL PRECHT,,3
01/15/94,16:23:42,231679,2,PHIL BOLD,,3
01/15/94,17:27:14,231680,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0
01/15/94,17:48:49,231681,2,KEITH ZAKS,Chicago,11
01/15/94,22:16:23,231682,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
01/15/94,22:27:39,231683,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
01/15/94,22:29:18,231684,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
01/15/94,22:53:27,231685,2,JANIE BRADLEY,michigan],
01/15/94,23:03:06,231686,2,BILL MATTSON,,
01/15/94,23:29:24,231687,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
01/16/94,00:32:55,231688,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,10
01/16/94,01:57:33,231689,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
01/16/94,02:08:35,231690,2,BILL MATTSON,,
01/16/94,02:29:29,231691,2,BILL MATTSON,,3
01/16/94,10:10:56,231692,2,ALEX ZELL,,4
]Seems that Bill Mattson either had trouble hanging on, or was testing
his dialer. Heh.
ALEX ZELL,
01/16/94,16:32:47,231693,2,STEVE FARMILANT,,1
01/16/94,16:34:33,231694,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,0
01/16/94,22:31:34,231695,2,AL HIGGINS,,5
01/16/94,22:56:18,231696,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,0
01/16/94,23:28:30,231697,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
E#46558,
E#46559,
E#46560,
01/17/94,05:37:52,231698,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/17/94,06:11:32,231699,2,NEW NEW,,
01/17/94,10:02:57,231700,2,CLEM OGDEN,Chicago,
01/17/94,11:52:13,231701,2,LYNN TILL,,
01/17/94,17:39:01,231702,2,DAVID GRAHAM,Chicago,27
01/17/94,20:37:26,231703,2,DANNY CALDWELL,Chicago/ IL,2
01/17/94,22:15:25,231704,2,DON PIVEN,,1
01/17/94,22:38:37,231705,2,JACK LEARY,,1
01/17/94,22:42:28,231706,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
01/18/94,00:58:41,231707,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
01/18/94,02:59:35,231708,2,MARTIN SOKAL,chicago/il,5
01/18/94,14:08:50,231709,2,LYNN TILL,,
01/19/94,00:36:17,231710,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/19/94,00:47:49,231711,2,ROI MIMMS,CHICAGO,4
01/19/94,00:55:57,231712,2,TOM MILLS,Foster City/ CA,2
01/19/94,08:59:57,231713,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,3
01/19/94,09:29:03,231714,2,ABU BAKAR,,
01/19/94,18:36:05,231715,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
01/19/94,22:11:43,231716,2,SANDREA WILLIAM,Chicago,7
01/19/94,22:19:12,231717,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46558 01/16/94 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "SIMMS NEEDED"
46559 01/16/94 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "386 MOTHERBOARD NEEDED"
46560 01/16/94 JOE SEROCKI => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "MISC"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46558 is 01 line(s) on 01/16/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: SIMMS NEEDED
I need 1m 70/80ns simms. Please call Joe at 708-402-7119 anytime.
Msg 46559 is 02 line(s) on 01/16/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: 386 MOTHERBOARD NEEDED
I need a 386 or 386sx motherboard, 4 or more meg ram. Please call Joe at
708-402-7719 anytime
Msg 46560 is 03 line(s) on 01/16/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: MISC
Thanks for the help at work. We really could have used it before, but
wonder where we can turn to for technical specs/references on the
system boards for the 95 series. Thanks
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930127.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/27/94 23:09:19
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231778; next msg =46566; 384 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/23/94 @ 03:29, next msg was 46563
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 3
KILLED. 9
SUMMARY. 26
01/23/94,03:34:50,231739,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,0
01/23/94,14:21:50,231740,2,BOB SULIN,,1
]BOB SULIN,
01/23/94,16:08:22,231741,2,DON PIVEN,,1
01/23/94,17:12:35,231742,2,JAMES DROLTE,highland park/ il,6
01/23/94,19:03:17,231743,2,BILL FISCHER,,2
01/23/94,19:12:39,231744,2,JOE JESSON,,4
]Ward, when are we going to have Thai food again? I've
been hibernating and building toys.
Been playing with a new outliner - Kamas on my HP95lx.
Nice... have you tried it?
--Joe Jesson (day voice 312-856-3645)
JOE JESSON,
01/23/94,19:49:33,231745,2,PHIL BOLD,,3
01/23/94,21:18:48,231746,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
01/23/94,22:42:18,231747,2,STEVE JURASEK,chicago/ il,15
01/23/94,23:56:06,231748,2,BILL MATTSON,,4
01/24/94,06:19:38,231749,2,RICK SCHERR,Loveland/OH,4
01/24/94,09:18:57,231750,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/24/94,13:31:49,231751,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/24/94,15:02:01,231752,2,REBECCA BARKER,,
01/24/94,15:23:50,231753,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
01/24/94,16:04:33,231754,2,CURTIS CLAAR,Denver CO,2
01/24/94,16:46:37,231755,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/24/94,22:05:04,231756,2,ROBERT MULLIGAN,great neck,6
01/24/94,22:15:21,231757,2,JON TAYLOR,Orlando/ FL,8
01/25/94,00:49:07,231758,2,STEVE RYAN,,
01/25/94,08:55:57,231759,2,JIM DUPREE,Baltimore/ MD,5
01/25/94,09:52:00,231760,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#46564,5
01/25/94,10:01:34,231761,2,PETE JONES,,2
01/25/94,13:06:31,231762,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/25/94,16:19:31,231763,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,4
01/25/94,20:38:54,231764,2,ED FOSTER,,1
01/25/94,20:51:19,231765,2,TIM HERRLINGER,BANGOR/ PA,6
01/25/94,22:57:54,231766,2,MAX KOHN,,22
01/26/94,00:09:56,231767,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
01/26/94,10:09:35,231768,2,BRUCE KITCHELL,ATLANTA/GA,
E#46565,15
]BRUCE KITCHELL,
01/26/94,14:06:01,231769,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/27/94,01:05:51,231770,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/27/94,08:01:20,231771,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
01/27/94,08:21:46,231772,2,BRUCE KITCHELL,,11
01/27/94,08:38:05,231773,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
01/27/94,10:16:19,231774,2,GARY ELFRING,,34
01/27/94,18:09:41,231775,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/27/94,22:09:41,231776,2,PHIL CREVIER,Andover/ CT,3
01/27/94,23:00:55,231777,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/27/94,23:09:22,231778,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46563 01/23/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => SETH TATEL: "R/WINDOWS 3.0 NO S MODE"
46564 01/25/94 ANDY SHAPIRO => NORB DEMBINSKI: "R/ENVELOPE PRINTING"
46565 01/26/94 BRUCE KITCHELL => ALL: "XMODEM SOFTWARE FOR VAX"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46563 is 19 line(s) on 01/23/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to SETH TATEL re: R/WINDOWS 3.0 NO S MODE
Look in your config.sys - the device=himem statement should give the
path of the file - i.e. where it expects it - could be c:\dos or
d:\windows or anything - just copy the file from your floppy to that
directory.
As to your comment about graphics, sorry, this is the worlds first
BBS, it is by definition a "historical relic". As author of it (about
16 years ago) I really HATE graphics, because they are so impossible
to capture or upload - I prefer text - when I see something interesting
I can capture it, and when I have some stored info to upload, I can
send it character by character. I tried Prodigy, but being graphics made
me feel so much like I was playing a video game - when people would
ask a question that I had a STORED answer to, there was no practical way
to upload it, and when I found something useful, I couldn't save it, etc.
I dropped it.
The only graphics environment online that I will accept is AOL, because
at least I can open arbitrary files (admittedly with a HORRIBLE file
manager that doesn't sort by anything but name, and has no dates) and clip
them to/from a clipboard, etc.
Good luck with your himem.
Msg 46564 is 09 line(s) on 01/25/94 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to NORB DEMBINSKI re: R/ENVELOPE PRINTING
I dunno about the LaserJet, but I have a little bactch program that
handles set-up codes on the DJ500, and prints envelopes as well. It's
simple, but it works. Actually, printing envelopes on the LJ and DJ
would be quite different, since on the LJ you have to switch to
landscape mode. My program requires 4DOS and an editor that can write
to PRN:. If you're interested, lemme know here or at marchana@gar.union.edu
and I'll send you a copy. Actually, come to think of it, it's already
posted on oak.oakland.edu and other SIMTEL mirrors as 4djpset.zip, in
the 4DOS area. You can get it via anonymous FTP.
Msg 46565 is 02 line(s) on 01/26/94 from BRUCE KITCHELL
to ALL re: XMODEM SOFTWARE FOR VAX
we are looking for file transfer software that uses the
xmodem protocol to run on a digital vax using vms
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930130.ch
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CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
01/30/94 15:27:53
You are caller 231803; next msg =46574; 391 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/27/94 @ 23:09, next msg was 46566
LOG. 4
KILLED. 10
SUMMARY. 26
01/27/94,23:09:22,231778,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46566,6
01/27/94,23:38:06,231779,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
01/27/94,23:51:04,231780,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,
E#46567,
E#46568,10
01/28/94,00:18:13,231781,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#46569,
E#46570,10
01/28/94,01:19:38,231782,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
01/28/94,08:15:40,231783,2,BILL PRECHT,,2
01/28/94,11:12:06,231784,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
01/28/94,12:16:34,231785,2,MICHAEL MEADE,Mt Holly/ NJ,6
01/28/94,17:52:47,231786,2,DON PIVEN,,2
01/28/94,18:07:20,231787,2,BRIAN SCHAER,,2
01/28/94,20:47:09,231788,2,BOB TAZBIER,,1
01/28/94,23:38:43,231789,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,
E#46571,3
01/29/94,01:05:37,231790,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,
E#46572,
E#46573,19
01/29/94,02:30:12,231791,2,L LL,chi,2
01/29/94,07:16:49,231792,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,3
01/29/94,10:21:02,231793,2,TONY VENTICINQUE,bolingbrook il,10
01/29/94,10:54:07,231794,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
01/29/94,16:36:04,231795,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,6
01/29/94,16:45:48,231796,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,5
01/29/94,18:50:00,231797,2,CANNIBAL CORPSE,,5
]do you have any hacking or elite software avalibly to the users here?
---curious---
CANNIBAL CORPSE,
01/29/94,20:14:33,231798,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
01/29/94,20:32:49,231799,2,ARNOLD BOYD,,1
01/29/94,22:18:38,231800,2,ZANDY MCFARLANE,,2
01/30/94,01:35:50,231801,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2
01/30/94,02:24:49,231802,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,2
01/30/94,15:27:56,231803,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46566 01/27/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRUCE KITCHELL: "R/XMODEM SOFTWARE FOR VAX"
46567 01/27/94 BENJAMIN COHEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/RECHARGABLE ALKALINES"
46568 01/27/94 BENJAMIN COHEN => ALL: "RESISTOR=FUSE?"
46569 01/28/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => BENJAMIN COHEN: "R/RECHARGABLE ALKALINES"
46570 01/28/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => BENJAMIN COHEN: "RESISTOR<>FUSE!"
46571 01/28/94 NORB DEMBINSKI => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/ENVELOPE PRINTING"
46572 01/29/94 BENJAMIN COHEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/RESISTOR<>FUSE!"
46573 01/29/94 BENJAMIN COHEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/RECHARGABLE ALKALINES"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46566 is 03 line(s) on 01/27/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to BRUCE KITCHELL re: R/XMODEM SOFTWARE FOR VAX
Have you checked out a VMS users group? I'd think there would be one,
and if XMODEM is feasible on it, it should be in there - been around
long enough, heh!
Msg 46567 is 09 line(s) on 01/27/94 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/RECHARGABLE ALKALINES
I bit and bought some. There's nothing on them to indicate that they are
"different", but the charger has a light that goes on when you insert
a battery correctly and then goes off when the battery is charged. I
haven't reread the docs to see whether you can actually charge an odd
number of batteries, but it would seem so from observing operation (all
the NiCad chargers I've ever had required charging in pairs, a nuisance
if you have an appliance that uses an odd number of batteries). The pair
that I charged several weeks ago seems to be going strong, though I don't
use the Walkman radio I have very much.
Msg 46568 is 12 line(s) on 01/27/94 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to ALL re: RESISTOR=FUSE?
I'm reviewing "the Underground Guide to Laser Printers", a collection of
articles from Flash Magazine, whichis published by the folks out in West
Topsham, VT, who run BlackLightning, Inc., a toner cartridge rebuild/
refill operation. 'Tis rather interesting, but I came across an odd
(to me) statement:
"The final part thatmay need to be replaced is the fuser
lamp fuse. This is a 47, 1/4 watt resistor next to the
power supply."
I have no technical expertise to evaluate this. Are resistors sometimes used
as fuses? I assume that anything that will "blow" under excess load
could be so used, so long as it blows before something critical. Can
someone enlighten me?
Msg 46569 is 04 line(s) on 01/28/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to BENJAMIN COHEN re: R/RECHARGABLE ALKALINES
Have you taken the charger apart yet? Is there any circuitry that look
s like some form of power pulsing as someone else has desbribed as an
old way of recharging alkalines? Do you have a scope you can put on the
outputs? Have you tried recharging plain 'old' duracells?
Msg 46570 is 07 line(s) on 01/28/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to BENJAMIN COHEN re: RESISTOR<>FUSE!
While you could consider any 'weak' link in a system a fuse, resistors are
not really a good choice. When they do, they tend to 'flame out'. A 1/4
watt resistor is not much more than a signal resistor. You can commonly find
them in things such as transisitr radios. They power needed to run a fuser
lamp would fry one immediately.
It would seem that you have a typo in what you read, or they were
trying to specify a fuse type. Just a suggestion.
Msg 46571 is 02 line(s) on 01/28/94 from NORB DEMBINSKI
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/ENVELOPE PRINTING
Thanx for the info, but it is not what I asked for.
Norb Dembinski
Msg 46572 is 07 line(s) on 01/29/94 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/RESISTOR<>FUSE!
They insist that it's not a typo and that it's a resistor used as
a fuse. The LaserJet III Companion has no reference to fuses in the
index. I don't have the manuals for my LJ1 and III here, they are at the
office. I suppose I should call HP's Tech Support and ask them what
fuse (if any) is used!
Thanks.
Msg 46573 is 13 line(s) on 01/29/94 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/RECHARGABLE ALKALINES
Let's see. There's one Phillips screw on the back. Prying with a screw-
driver (U.S. Robotics model, natch) reveals a very tight fit between the
base and outside sections. Aha! It's open. (If I can't get it back
together, you owe me one!) Big transformer in the center, no surprise.
There's a Motorola chip labelled XC78160J4/XXAB9336. A bunch of resistors.
[Not used as fuses, no doubt!] Four devices with a Motorola logo marked
2N/4401/337. These are black, flat on one side but otherwise cylindrical.
A fifth device of similar color and shape is labelled K982/3H and lacks
Motorola's "M". I have no scope and dunno much about the stuff. I haven't
yet tried recharging regular alkalines or NiCads, and am not sure that I
will (don't have any NiCads around - I long ago learned that I didn't
have appropriate uses for them, most of the things I wanted them for were
not used hard enough to make them worthwhile).
bbs/CBBS/1994/930203.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/03/94 21:04:05
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231838; next msg =46575; 374 active msgs.
Prev. call 01/30/94 @ 16:51, next msg was 46574
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 6
KILLED. 37
SUMMARY. 25
803,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
]S,OPLOG,
01/30/94,16:51:12,231804,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
01/30/94,17:02:49,231805,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
01/30/94,17:05:07,231806,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
]R,ZIP.EXE,
01/30/94,17:22:34,231807,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
]S,MESSAGES.ZIP,
01/30/94,22:10:39,231808,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,1
01/30/94,23:18:19,231809,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/30/94,23:22:03,231810,2,BILL MATTSON,,3
01/31/94,02:30:38,231811,2,ALEX ZELL,,
01/31/94,05:12:54,231812,2,WILLIAM O'GORMAN,,13
]Getting better !, Thanks.
WILLIAM O'GORMAN,
01/31/94,10:01:06,231813,2,BOB HOLMES,St. Charles,1
01/31/94,11:35:23,231814,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
01/31/94,12:19:16,231815,2,BOB TAZBIER,,2
01/31/94,13:29:41,231816,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
01/31/94,16:24:43,231817,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/01/94,00:15:34,231818,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,0
02/01/94,07:10:05,231819,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/01/94,07:44:22,231820,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
02/01/94,13:04:34,231821,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/01/94,15:55:31,231822,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/01/94,16:56:42,231823,2,BRUNO RUSSO,,4
02/01/94,21:30:27,231824,2,SCOTT BURKETT,Columbus/ GA,2
02/01/94,22:36:23,231825,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/01/94,23:58:47,231826,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,3
02/02/94,05:36:13,231827,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,
E#46574,6
02/02/94,11:37:57,231828,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,2
02/02/94,14:39:43,231829,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/02/94,15:47:57,231830,2,BOB HOLMES,,1
02/02/94,16:54:59,231831,2,HARVEY NICE,,
>Help: RETRIVE,17
]testing Modem
HARVEY NICE,
02/02/94,18:51:53,231832,2,HARVEY NICE,,7
02/02/94,20:23:35,231833,2,DON PIVEN,,1
02/02/94,21:02:09,231834,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
02/03/94,10:06:19,231835,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/03/94,10:11:20,231836,2,JIM THALE,,3
02/03/94,11:16:40,231837,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/03/94,21:04:09,231838,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46574 02/02/94 NORB DEMBINSKI => ALL: "FOR SALE"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46574 is 27 line(s) on 02/02/94 from NORB DEMBINSKI
to ALL re: FOR SALE
Make a resonable offer for the following for sale items:
1. IBM #1887972 8514/A Color Display Adapter, 512KB memory.
2. IBM #6451113 Int CD-ROM drive w/IBM #6450847 Install Kit/A.
3. IBM #6451109 SCSI Adapter/A.
4. IBM #30F5279 Internal Tape Drive 80/120 Meg capacity with
Backup Kit software for DOS and & 1 tape cartridge.
5. IBM #72X8527 8580 Hard drive support structure.
6. IBM #6451006 5.25 Inch 1.2MB/360KB Internal Diskette Drive.
7. IBM #6451007 5.25 inch Int/Ext Diskette Drive Adapter/A.
8. IBM #6450379 System Board 2MB memory expansion kit.
9. Kensington KTM-2000/M80 2MB mem board, IBM #6450379 equal.
10. ADOBE Postscript Cartridge for the HP LaserJet II.
11. Pacific Data Products Postscript Cartridge PE with Pacific Data
Products Postscript Accelerator Board XL for HP LaserJet III
and LaserTools Printer Control Panel software.
12. INTERCON Mustang II PostScript Accelerator Bd for HP LJ II/III.
13. Hewlett-Packard #92286PC Pro Collection Font Cartridge.
14. Hewlett-Packard #33404A #ABA Type Director Font Management
software w/8 typefaces.
15. INTEL 80386DX-20 CPU processor chip.
16. INTEL 80387DX-20 Math co-processor chip.
All of the above peripherals and adapter cards come with the
manufacturer's diagnostic, install, setup, driver software and
printed documentation where and when supplied by the manufacturer.
Call 312/731-9894 or leave message on BBS.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930212.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/12/94 20:10:30
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231886; next msg =46577; 376 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/03/94 @ 21:04, next msg was 46575
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to ab
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 8
KILLED. 37
SUMMARY. 25
02/03/94,21:04:09,231838,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,2
02/03/94,21:49:44,231839,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
02/03/94,23:03:57,231840,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#46575,6
02/04/94,05:34:40,231841,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
02/04/94,07:18:06,231842,2,BILL PRECHT,,2
02/04/94,13:13:31,231843,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
02/04/94,13:37:51,231844,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
02/04/94,14:37:49,231845,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/04/94,15:22:55,231846,2,JOE JENSEN,Hoffman Estates,5
02/05/94,01:06:40,231847,2,MIKE MILLER,Bartlett/ IL,10
02/05/94,01:18:20,231848,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,7
02/05/94,03:17:01,231849,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
02/05/94,08:56:21,231850,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
02/05/94,14:06:04,231851,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2
02/05/94,18:24:26,231852,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,0
02/05/94,21:42:04,231853,2,JOHN ROBINSON,Salt Lake City/ Utah,5
02/05/94,22:40:08,231854,2,BOB NAGLICH,,3
]Oh my gawd!! The one, the only, the original is STILL here!!
I'm still calling in from Houston....it's been quite a while
since I've been up in the area to see my family. All the
best.....
BOB NAGLICH,
02/06/94,01:50:18,231855,2,BOB KWIATKOWSKI,chicago,2
02/06/94,12:04:51,231856,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,2
02/06/94,20:27:14,231857,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,0
02/06/94,22:46:57,231858,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1
02/06/94,22:56:37,231859,2,WAYNE SPATH,,16
02/06/94,23:19:56,231860,2,JIM SACKETT,lyons,1
02/06/94,23:22:53,231861,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
02/07/94,01:48:49,231862,2,ROY PARDI,chigo,17
02/07/94,09:46:17,231863,2,JIM SACKETT,,2
02/07/94,13:47:01,231864,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/07/94,13:49:04,231865,2,RANDY IMAGEN,,
02/07/94,15:31:53,231866,2,DON PIVEN,,1
02/07/94,17:34:38,231867,2,DONN BRISKIE,,2
02/07/94,18:33:49,231868,2,DONN BRISKIE,,5
02/07/94,19:36:00,231869,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
02/07/94,19:43:51,231870,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
02/07/94,20:19:42,231871,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,9
02/07/94,21:19:19,231872,2,MAX PLAG,chicago,5
02/08/94,01:44:07,231873,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,0
02/08/94,02:33:22,231874,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#46576,9
02/08/94,11:47:34,231875,2,PETE JONES,,1
02/08/94,11:49:24,231876,2,PETE JONES,,
02/08/94,11:51:11,231877,2,PETE JONES,,2
02/11/94,17:47:05,231878,2,ALEX ZELL,,2
]Ah, finally back up.
ALEX ZELL,
02/11/94,22:38:36,231879,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
02/11/94,23:06:56,231880,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
02/12/94,00:03:30,231881,2,MIKE VAUGHN,Douglasville/ Ga,3
02/12/94,00:45:34,231882,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,4
02/12/94,13:52:39,231883,2,STEVE RYAN,,6
02/12/94,14:46:52,231884,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/12/94,18:44:40,231885,2,STEVE FARMILANT,,1
02/12/94,20:10:34,231886,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46575 02/03/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => WARD: "MSG 46573 / CHIP"
46576 02/08/94 ERIC BOHLMAN => BENJAMIN COHEN: "CHARGER"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46575 is 03 line(s) on 02/03/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to WARD re: MSG 46573 / CHIP
Ward,
We have a disected battery charger ( see msg 46575). Now it sup to you
to find the spec/data sheet for the Motorola chip.
Msg 46576 is 08 line(s) on 02/08/94 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to BENJAMIN COHEN re: CHARGER
The 2N4401's are garden-variety NPN transistors. The part number on
the Motorola chip indicates that it's a recently-introduced device
(established Motorola chips begin with MC, new parts with XC). The
second part of the number sounds like a location/date code, with the
date of manufacture probably late last year (presumably the "36" means
the 36th week of 93). Part numbers beginning with "78" are usually
voltage regulators, though specialized battery-charger chips might
fall into that range too.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930218.ch
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CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/18/94 06:59:23
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk.
You are caller 231925; next msg =46577; 376 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/12/94 @ 20:10, next msg was 46577
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 12
KILLED. 37
SUMMARY. 25
02/18/94,06:59:27,231925,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
- End of summary -
dup. chars.
>Function:?o;*^U
?type-30 log,ward c
02/12/94,20:10:34,231886,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,3
]Thanks for helping, Alex! I am in the worst state of depression I've been
in in 20 years, and CBBS being down was yet another - uh - well, it is
like being trapped under a heavy door in a earthquake - so cbbs being down
was like another few bricks on top of the door... I can only ask, like the
song, "Why do fools fall in love". I sure shouldn't have, makes me only
too aware of my many hangups, inexperiences, phobias, all the skeletons
that grow up in a 48-year-old loner's closets. Sigh.
WARD CHRISTENSEN,
02/13/94,08:43:54,231887,2,KENNETH BENSON,CHICAGO IL,2
02/13/94,12:45:37,231888,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
02/13/94,16:03:31,231889,2,CANNIBAL CORPSE,,
02/13/94,17:39:13,231890,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/13/94,17:40:29,231891,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/13/94,20:33:25,231892,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
02/13/94,21:40:06,231893,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,3
02/13/94,21:58:11,231894,2,MIKE METCALF,chicago/il,3
02/13/94,22:20:15,231895,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,3
02/13/94,23:53:05,231896,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
02/14/94,02:22:58,231897,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/14/94,13:35:43,231898,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/14/94,14:13:47,231899,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/14/94,15:57:20,231900,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/14/94,17:46:47,231901,2,PETE JONES,,0
02/14/94,18:02:50,231902,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,7
02/14/94,23:45:30,231903,2,SANDRA VITEK,Farmington Hills/ MI,
02/15/94,12:03:41,231904,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/15/94,15:46:10,231905,2,ALAN DUFFY,,6
02/15/94,18:42:28,231906,2,SETH TATEL,,3
02/15/94,18:45:55,231907,2,SETH TATEL,,
02/15/94,22:12:13,231908,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
02/15/94,22:56:59,231909,2,ALEXANDRIA MCFARLANE,,1
02/15/94,23:41:33,231910,2,BRYAN JONES,,5
02/16/94,03:43:43,231911,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/16/94,11:12:51,231912,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/16/94,14:42:29,231913,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/16/94,19:21:36,231914,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/16/94,20:15:06,231915,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/16/94,22:15:41,231916,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,0
02/16/94,22:48:53,231917,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,2
02/16/94,22:59:03,231918,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,7
]Hope to make the party! Missed two years ago (had a baby Feb. 17th
that year!) This year's baby should be no problem....not due until
middle of March! :-)
TONY ANTONUCCI,
02/17/94,00:16:00,231919,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
02/17/94,02:18:06,231920,2,CYRUS PATEL,,3
02/17/94,18:18:48,231921,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/17/94,19:15:00,231922,2,MIKE KAVADIAS,,1
02/17/94,21:06:43,231923,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,0
02/18/94,00:18:22,231924,2,JOEL DARE,Roy/ UT,5
]Hello, the names Joel Dare.. I run a BBS running RENEGADE
software in Roy, Utah. I have a 14.4k baud modem that is up and running.
The # is (801) 774-8423. I found your number in a magazine from 1992,
and called to see if the board was still up.. Amazing, up since 1977.
This is great. I'm a DOOR author, and would like to know more about
our system, and what type of Operating System your using etc. I'm
calling long dist, so I'll make it short. I'd appreciate a letter
from you or something. If I could get an address that would be great.
I'll leave mine in case I don't ever call back.
.
Joel Dare
6090 s 2950 w
Roy, UT
^^ 84067
.
Put my zipcode on the wrong line.. Oh, and it is 84067-1058
.
Hope to hear from you.. I would like to start a HUGE BBS list, I have
the list, and now would like to put it on a few boards. The list can
be netted via a download of the file, and a compare program I wrote
to acompany it. SeveN Software is the title of my software, and SeveN
BBS List is the name of the door. SeeYa, gotta run. 11:24pm 02-17-94
JOEL DARE,
02/18/94,06:59:27,231925,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
>Function:?help hardware
bbs/CBBS/1994/930219.ch
+63
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/19/94 09:18:41
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231937; next msg =46579; 377 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/18/94 @ 06:59, next msg was 46577
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 13
KILLED. 37
SUMMARY. 25
02/18/94,06:59:27,231925,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46577,
E#46578,5
02/18/94,09:32:19,231926,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/18/94,12:51:39,231927,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/18/94,14:00:56,231928,2,EMMANUEL SEMMES,,3
02/18/94,14:34:12,231929,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,3
02/18/94,15:58:11,231930,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/18/94,16:32:06,231931,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,3
02/18/94,21:47:37,231932,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
02/18/94,22:30:37,231933,2,MIKE BROST,NORRIDGE/IL,3
02/18/94,23:49:44,231934,2,ADAM COCHRAN,CHICAGO/ ILL.,
>Help: .*GIF,5
02/18/94,23:59:53,231935,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,2
02/19/94,07:09:56,231936,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1
02/19/94,09:18:45,231937,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46577 02/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JOEL DARE: "CBBS"
46578 02/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "PARTY THIS SAT"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46577 is 04 line(s) on 02/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to JOEL DARE re: CBBS
Heh, this being the ORIGINAL BBS is running on CP/M - sort of - it is
running an emulator that needs a V-20 chip for the 8080 emulation, and
software to make PC-DOS look like an 8080. Something like 20K lines
of assembler code.
Msg 46578 is 02 line(s) on 02/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: PARTY THIS SAT
Don't forget this sat 2:00 PM the 19th is the CBBS 16th anniversary party.
Barnaby's pizza, Touhy & California. For the full details type: or;1,anniv
dup. chars.
>Function:?
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930223.ch
+133
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@@ -0,0 +1,133 @@
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/23/94 22:11:58
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk.
You are caller 231980; next msg =46584; 382 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/19/94 @ 09:18, next msg was 46579
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 15
KILLED. 37
SUMMARY. 25
2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
]S,USERS,9
02/19/94,12:54:52,231938,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/19/94,13:32:13,231939,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
02/19/94,20:17:19,231940,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
02/19/94,22:04:06,231941,2,YAOUNDE OLU,chicago/il,9
02/20/94,07:43:19,231942,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/20/94,07:45:24,231943,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/20/94,07:53:18,231944,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/20/94,07:54:37,231945,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/20/94,11:17:03,231946,2,JASON CROME,Genoa/IL,4
02/20/94,13:22:04,231947,2,ROBERT DODD,evansville,2
02/20/94,14:48:23,231948,2,ALEX ZELL,,3
]Heh. Read 46178 from a year ago before it disappears in the K-files.
ALEX ZELL,
02/20/94,15:57:17,231949,2,CARLOS BUTLER,Chicago/ IL,5
02/20/94,17:25:55,231950,2,GAYLAND BLOETHE,,4
02/20/94,19:40:25,231951,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,0
02/20/94,22:55:02,231952,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
02/20/94,23:24:43,231953,2,DAVID HAGEN,,3
02/21/94,02:11:59,231954,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
02/21/94,07:20:05,231955,2,PETE JONES,,1
02/21/94,09:46:30,231956,2,PAUL STREETER,,
E#46579,11
]Great party; thanks.
PAUL STREETER,
02/21/94,13:24:34,231957,2,EMMANUEL SEMMES,,1
02/21/94,16:59:47,231958,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/21/94,22:02:23,231959,2,CHRIS COURSON,*~Tampa/ FL,
E#46580,19
02/21/94,22:21:25,231960,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,1
02/21/94,23:19:05,231961,2,PETE CANTELE,,4
02/21/94,23:44:21,231962,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1
02/22/94,09:45:50,231963,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
02/22/94,12:31:19,231964,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/22/94,15:04:54,231965,2,DANIEL BOHL,Glenmont/ New York,2
02/22/94,20:31:44,231966,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
02/23/94,01:42:07,231967,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,
E#46581,8
]Alex; Nice meeting you after 100's of years of typing/read to/from
you!
TONY ANTONUCCI,
02/23/94,05:52:10,231968,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2
02/23/94,06:12:23,231969,2,CHRIS COURSON,,5
02/23/94,07:47:43,231970,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
02/23/94,11:28:47,231971,2,GARY ELFRING,,1
02/23/94,12:22:20,231972,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/23/94,12:54:29,231973,2,JACK MULDOON,chicago IL,7
02/23/94,14:37:53,231974,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/23/94,15:23:10,231975,2,STEPHEN CASTLE,park ridge/il,2
02/23/94,19:14:09,231976,2,CYRUS PATEL,,1
02/23/94,19:59:50,231977,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
E#46582,
E#46583,
02/23/94,20:51:39,231978,2,STEVE RYAN,,
02/23/94,21:52:10,231979,2,JON KUTA,chicago/ ill,2
]JON KUTA,
02/23/94,22:12:02,231980,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46579 02/21/94 PAUL STREETER => ALL: "STACK.COM"
46580 02/21/94 CHRIS COURSON => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "HOWDEY!"
46581 02/23/94 TONY ANTONUCCI => ALL: "CBBS B-DAY"
46582 02/23/94 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "ESDI CARDS NEEDED"
46583 02/23/94 JOE SEROCKI => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "MISC"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46579 is 09 line(s) on 02/21/94 from PAUL STREETER
to ALL re: STACK.COM
Is anyone familiar with a TSR named STACK.COM. It does nicely what DOSKEY
makes a rather clumsy attempt at; it gives you a window of the last 15
commands you have entered and lets you pick with the arrow keys. The
problem I have is that on a computer at my office, when I attempted to
have it save a hotkey setting, it messed itself up, causing me to think
briefly that the machune had picked up a virus. The machine was a COMPAQ
486, but it works fine on another COMPAQ 486. Is there a hard disk
difference that could do this. Is there a newer version of STACK out?
or another program that is as nice?
Msg 46580 is 14 line(s) on 02/21/94 from CHRIS COURSON
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: HOWDEY!
Hey, Ward! you probably get this all the time gobbut I just have to add mone.
I found an old text you wrote in 1982 or earlier about xmodem and ymodem in
your first attempt to document you protocol. I'm writing a heBBS, as if
there aren't enough already, and the point of this is it is ALL PD.
I'm one of the few that think there should be atleast an equal share of quality
public domain software as comercial and sharware. Anyway, on a whim I thought
I'd see if the number at the bottom of all the pages of my very garbled
copy of your document would answer and lo' and behold! }!I'll just
brouse around and see if I can pick up any juicy file transfer protocol ^I[
info. By the way. I run a BBS, it$s new, its called the
Society for the Preservation of Obsolete Computers. It's a free BBS featuringe~
CP/M. God, where did Microsoft go wrong. What is this windows thing anyway??
My BBS number is (813)238-8076 (813)238-8076. Voice is (813)238-5279
(813)238-5279. See ya!
Msg 46581 is 01 line(s) on 02/23/94 from TONY ANTONUCCI
to ALL re: CBBS B-DAY
Just a quick note to say how much I enjoyed the annual CBBS b-day party.
Msg 46582 is 02 line(s) on 02/23/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: ESDI CARDS NEEDED
I am looking for ESDI controller cards. Please call me at 708-587-2388
anytime with any offers. 73, Joe
Msg 46583 is 03 line(s) on 02/23/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: MISC
Hi Ward. Long time no chat. When this gonna go to 14.4? I have recently
purchased some V.FASTs for my bbs. 708-587-2398 if you are interested.
Take care, Joe
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930226.ch
+56
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@@ -0,0 +1,56 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
02/26/94 06:30:00
++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER:
XXXXXXXXX^U
?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 231987; next msg =46584; 373 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/23/94 @ 22:11, next msg was 46584
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 4
KILLED. 43
SUMMARY. 25
02/23/94,22:12:02,231980,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
02/23/94,22:18:08,231981,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
02/24/94,08:12:58,231982,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
02/24/94,13:38:18,231983,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/24/94,20:13:36,231984,2,ALEX ZELL,,9
]Tony: It was nice to be able not only to put a face to your name but
to get a pic. I have enough trouble remembering faces. So seldom
do I go to any of these things that I even have to look twice to
identify people I know well. Randy dumped his camera on me -- preset
for automatic -- and said "it's on auto, just focus and shoot." Sure.
So dark in there couldn't see well enough to focus well. Heh. Also
I much prefer to work with B/W, I don't like to work with color.
ALEX ZELL,
02/25/94,16:53:52,231985,2,ALEX ZELL,,
02/25/94,17:48:36,231986,2,DON PIVEN,,2
02/26/94,06:30:04,231987,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
- End of summary -
dup. chars.
>Function:?g;y
02/26/94 06:30:36
Connect time 0 minutes
1:?Is this system dying or what?
2:?
Y/N Done?
SIGNED: WARD CHRISTENSEN
Char counts: 159 typed by you, 1644 typed by system.
from Ward and Randy, thanks for calling, WARD
NO CARRIER
bbs/CBBS/1994/930302.ch
+109
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@@ -0,0 +1,109 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
03/02/94 21:43:55
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232031; next msg =46586; 375 active msgs.
Prev. call 02/26/94 @ 06:30, next msg was 46584
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 7
KILLED. 43
SUMMARY. 25
WARD CHRISTENSEN,
02/26/94,07:54:27,231988,2,CARY MEDNICK,,2
02/26/94,09:29:32,231989,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
02/26/94,11:21:43,231990,2,BILL PRECHT,,
E#46584,2
02/26/94,12:20:44,231991,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,3
02/26/94,12:26:16,231992,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,3
02/26/94,16:06:46,231993,2,BILL PRECHT,,0
02/26/94,17:19:07,231994,2,JIM MURRAY,Chicago/ Il.,
02/26/94,23:27:20,231995,2,BILL MATTSON,,3
02/27/94,00:02:55,231996,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2
02/27/94,05:28:54,231997,2,ALEX ZELL,,2
]CBBS dying? If you mean cuz of low usage previous couple days, that
may be because it was not responding a couple days until Randy reset.
Mebbe weather is a factor? But what is with Ward/Dolton CBBS?
Haven't checked it in a while and it didn't respond this morning.
Anyway, thought you were in Wiconsin this weekend.
ALEX ZELL,
02/27/94,08:18:16,231998,2,BURK HUFNAGEL,,2
02/27/94,08:40:52,231999,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1
02/27/94,14:21:29,232000,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,
E#46585,31
02/27/94,20:54:19,232001,2,BILL COLEMAN,,3
02/27/94,21:15:01,232002,2,CYNTHIA NELSON,,
>Help: WHO,3
02/27/94,22:31:12,232003,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,8
02/28/94,03:23:23,232004,2,ALEX ZELL,,2
]Yep. Sunday was a busy day. Eight calls. Only 3 Friday.
ALEX ZELL,
02/28/94,04:11:15,232005,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
02/28/94,06:06:17,232006,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,4
02/28/94,07:04:40,232007,2,JIM MURRAY,,
>Help: OFFLINE,3
02/28/94,13:42:28,232008,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
02/28/94,14:28:40,232009,2,MIKE DEER,,7
02/28/94,14:51:46,232010,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
02/28/94,19:48:32,232011,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,0
02/28/94,21:11:27,232012,2,BILL PRECHT,,0
02/28/94,22:17:05,232013,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,2
02/28/94,22:45:49,232014,2,LEX LUTHOR,,
02/28/94,22:49:47,232015,2,JOHN WEST,,11
02/28/94,23:54:48,232016,2,JOE WEST,,2
03/01/94,06:46:48,232017,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
03/01/94,15:07:41,232018,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
03/01/94,18:06:50,232019,2,TIM KENDT,Chicago il,4
03/01/94,18:21:41,232020,2,TIM KENDT,,5
03/01/94,21:30:24,232021,2,JIM THALE,,2
03/01/94,22:50:51,232022,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,1
03/02/94,07:43:48,232023,2,JOHN WILKERSON,,3
03/02/94,09:35:05,232024,2,BILL PRECHT,,0
03/02/94,10:31:07,232025,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
03/02/94,13:44:30,232026,2,CHARLES KANYARUSOKE,INDIANA/PENNSYLVANIA,12
03/02/94,15:35:40,232027,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
03/02/94,18:07:13,232028,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/02/94,19:06:41,232029,2,NICK STEELE,PALATINE/IL,5
03/02/94,20:22:06,232030,2,GILBERT TAVARES,NEWARK/NJ,7
03/02/94,21:43:59,232031,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46584 02/26/94 BILL PRECHT => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "AOL"
46585 02/27/94 KEVIN PRECHT => ALL: "ASKING ABOUT GATEWAY COMPUTERS"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46584 is 02 line(s) on 02/26/94 from BILL PRECHT
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: AOL
Did you hear anything from the Windy City guy about your letter
in my behalf?
Msg 46585 is 10 line(s) on 02/27/94 from KEVIN PRECHT
to ALL re: ASKING ABOUT GATEWAY COMPUTERS
I am curious, has anyone had any experience with Gateway computers?
I am looking to buy in the next few months, and I just wanted to know
if anyone has one, and if they are impressed with, or can't stand
it. Also, if you have one, have you had any trouble with it? If so, what kind
of trouble. In addition, has anyone had any experience with Western Digital
Hard Disk Drives? If so, Good/Bad/Indifferent?
Thanks a lot!
Kevin Precht
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>Function:?
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
03/06/94 23:17:04
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232069; next msg =46592; 378 active msgs.
Prev. call 03/02/94 @ 21:43, next msg was 46586
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 8
KILLED. 45
SUMMARY. 25
94,21:43:59,232031,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46586,
E#46587,6
03/02/94,22:31:31,232032,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,
E#46588,9
03/03/94,00:31:48,232033,2,BILL PRECHT,,1
03/03/94,11:21:34,232034,2,NICK STEELE,,10
03/03/94,12:21:01,232035,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
03/03/94,12:23:38,232036,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
03/03/94,13:56:08,232037,2,NICK STEELE,,14
03/03/94,14:36:57,232038,2,HANK LABARBARA,,2
03/03/94,19:10:41,232039,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,3
03/03/94,22:18:51,232040,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
03/03/94,22:33:53,232041,2,SANDRA VITEK,,
03/03/94,23:01:28,232042,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/04/94,00:43:31,232043,2,SANDRA VITEK,,
03/04/94,02:46:46,232044,2,SANDRA VITEK,,
03/04/94,08:44:19,232045,2,DAN TREMITIERE,,2
03/04/94,10:52:11,232046,2,HANK LA BARBARA,SKOKIE IL,4
03/04/94,16:04:21,232047,2,GARY ELFRING,,4
03/04/94,17:59:06,232048,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#46589,2
03/04/94,18:35:10,232049,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,3
03/05/94,00:45:39,232050,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,2
03/05/94,02:48:54,232051,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
03/05/94,09:03:07,232052,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/05/94,11:05:38,232053,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,5
03/05/94,11:20:32,232054,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
03/05/94,11:52:15,232055,2,JACOB FARBER,,
03/05/94,19:23:42,232056,2,TORSTEN EDWINSON,Gefle/ Sweden,
03/05/94,21:28:13,232057,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,0
03/05/94,21:55:43,232058,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,
E#46590,3
03/05/94,23:54:17,232059,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/06/94,02:26:44,232060,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
03/06/94,09:20:20,232061,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/06/94,09:45:48,232062,2,ART DONALDSON,Greensboro/ NC,5
03/06/94,13:15:08,232063,2,KEN STOX,,1
03/06/94,13:40:25,232064,2,WAYNE ALEXANDER,riverview/ fl,5
03/06/94,17:46:48,232065,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,1
03/06/94,18:08:01,232066,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,
E#46591,5
03/06/94,20:14:03,232067,2,TIM SCHANNON,,
03/06/94,20:41:06,232068,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
03/06/94,23:17:08,232069,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46586 03/02/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => KEVIN PRECHT: "R/ASKING ABOUT GATEWAY COMPUTE"
46587 03/02/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL PRECHT: "R/AOL"
46588 03/02/94 MURRAY ARNOW => KEVIN PRECHT: "R/ASKING ABOUT GATEWAY COMPUTE"
46589 03/04/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => JOE SEROCKI: "ESDI CARDS."
46590 03/05/94 PHIL SCHUMAN => WARD: "IBM MANUALS FOR 4700/4600"
46591 03/06/94 NORB DEMBINSKI => ALL: "FOR SALE"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46586 is 08 line(s) on 03/02/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to KEVIN PRECHT re: R/ASKING ABOUT GATEWAY COMPUTE
The articles in - I forget - PC Week or PC Mag, I believe showed
Gateway as having 100% or even OVER, return rate, the first year. I was
just at a customer who talked their company into STOPPING dealing with
Gateway - they get different motherboards in the same shipment of
identical models, etc. They lost their warehouse server - a Gateway.
They're now looking at IBM. More expensive, but significantly higher
quality.
I also know some people who are very happy with their Gateways.
Msg 46587 is 04 line(s) on 03/02/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to BILL PRECHT re: R/AOL
I heard from larry435@aol.com that he had forwarded your message on
to "the powers that be" or something like that, and he was asking ME
if I'd heard from YOU as to whether they'd contacted you yet. So,
no news.
Msg 46588 is 06 line(s) on 03/02/94 from MURRAY ARNOW
to KEVIN PRECHT re: R/ASKING ABOUT GATEWAY COMPUTE
I am using a Gateway 2000 486/33Mhz. I like it alot. The support is excellent.
They are getting very popular and it can be a pain to get someone to talk to.
But, they keep long hours 6:00 a.m. to midnight and all numbers are toll free.
I have 2 WD drives. They are very good. I measured ave. seek times between
11 and 13 ms. I think Gateway 2000 gives the most bang for the buck on new
systems. Also, they are very reasonable on software and hardware upgrades.
Msg 46589 is 01 line(s) on 03/04/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to JOE SEROCKI re: ESDI CARDS.
Are looking looking for ISA or MC cards ????
Msg 46590 is 07 line(s) on 03/05/94 from PHIL SCHUMAN
to WARD re: IBM MANUALS FOR 4700/4600
I friend is looking for some manuals on the 4700 and 4600 systems.
these I think are the grocery and teller terminal systems.
I would add these to my SLSS - but he wants to get an order for a class
he is presenting. The library downtown is long gone for ordering and I
don't know where to call for an outsider to call, order and try and use a
credit card or send a check like the old 7th (?) floor did.
Any ideas ?
Msg 46591 is 24 line(s) on 03/06/94 from NORB DEMBINSKI
to ALL re: FOR SALE
Make a resonable offer for the following for sale items:
1. IBM #1887972 8514/A Color Display Adapter, 512KB memory.
2. IBM #6451113 Int CD-ROM drive w/IBM #6450847 Install Kit/A.
3. IBM #6451109 SCSI Adapter/A.
4. IBM #72X8527 8580 Hard drive support structure.
5. IBM #6451007 5.25 inch Int/Ext Diskette Drive Adapter/A.
6. IBM #6450379 System Board 2MB memory expansion kit.
7. Kensington KTM-2000/M80 2MB mem board, IBM #6450379 equal.
8. ADOBE Postscript Cartridge for the HP LaserJet II.
9. Pacific Data Products Postscript Cartridge PE with Pacific Data
Products Postscript Accelerator Board XL for HP LaserJet III
and LaserTools Printer Control Panel software.
10. INTERCON Mustang II PostScript Accelerator Bd for HP LJ II/III.
11. Hewlett-Packard #92286PC Pro Collection Font Cartridge.
12. Hewlett-Packard #33404A #ABA Type Director Font Management
software w/8 typefaces.
13. INTEL 80386DX-20 CPU processor chip.
14. INTEL 80387DX-20 Math co-processor chip.
All of the above peripherals and adapter cards come with the
manufacturer's diagnostic, install, setup, driver software and
printed documentation where and when supplied by the manufacturer.
Call 312/731-9894 or leave message on this BBS.
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>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930311.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
03/11/94 06:12:05
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232094; next msg =46597; 377 active msgs.
Prev. call 03/06/94 @ 23:17, next msg was 46592
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to ab
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 10
KILLED. 47
SUMMARY. 25
6/94,23:17:08,232069,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46592,10
03/06/94,23:34:29,232070,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,
E#46593,8
03/07/94,01:07:54,232071,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,2
03/07/94,20:35:05,232072,2,MARTIN AMBUHL,Chicago/ IL,4
03/07/94,22:36:43,232073,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,2
03/08/94,00:34:44,232074,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,
E#46594,4
03/08/94,01:45:23,232075,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2
03/08/94,07:40:59,232076,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2
03/08/94,19:46:57,232077,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,5
03/08/94,20:12:56,232078,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,3
03/08/94,20:40:14,232079,2,DON PIVEN,,2
03/08/94,21:22:12,232080,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
03/08/94,23:21:12,232081,2,KEVIN HUOTARI,chicago/il,
E#46595,36
]thanks for everything
KEVIN HUOTARI,
03/09/94,15:05:58,232082,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/09/94,16:16:22,232083,2,DONN BRISKIE,,21
03/09/94,17:14:15,232084,2,HARVEY NICE,,
E#46596,21
03/10/94,07:13:06,232085,2,DONN BRISKIE,,7
03/10/94,08:30:32,232086,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
03/10/94,16:24:02,232087,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
>Help: SYSTEM,
>Help: KEYWORD,4
03/10/94,17:08:41,232088,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/10/94,20:44:28,232089,2,TYLER GROVE,,
>Help: $)OI,
03/10/94,23:53:17,232090,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
03/11/94,00:15:06,232091,2,DAVID STREETER,Naperville,27
03/11/94,00:47:52,232092,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/11/94,03:25:55,232093,2,CYRUS PATEL,,2
03/11/94,06:12:08,232094,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46592 03/06/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => PHIL SCHUMAN: "R/IBM MANUALS FOR 4700/4600"
46593 03/06/94 BENJAMIN COHEN => PAUL STREETER: "R/STACK.COM"
46594 03/08/94 ROY LIPSCOMB => ALL: "ALZHEIMER'S AND OLD PCS"
46595 03/08/94 KEVIN HUOTARI => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "HAMFESTS"
46596 03/09/94 HARVEY NICE => ALL: "FREE ASR-33 TTYS!"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46592 is 07 line(s) on 03/06/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to PHIL SCHUMAN re: R/IBM MANUALS FOR 4700/4600
Boy, I have NO idea. Since I became a "product" (PC) marketing specialist,
I haven't even ordered any manuals for myself. We DO have a look-up
system ("BOIS" - Branch Office Information System), but I have NO idea
where you go to actually ORDER manuals.
I'll bet this is a question the main IBM operators get all the time -
you might just call 245-2000 and see if they know. I'll be out at
customers.
Msg 46593 is 11 line(s) on 03/06/94 from BENJAMIN COHEN
to PAUL STREETER re: R/STACK.COM
Dunno much about STACK.COM, but 4DOS (a version of which comes with Norto
Utilities under the name NDOS) includes a better command line history
than DOSKEY. It has sophisticated command line completion so that if
you enter DIR and press up arrow it will bring backe the last command
line that began with DIR. 4DOS has dozens of other useful features,
including multiple commands on a single line, batch-to=memory files that are
read into memory all at once instead of one line at a time, multiple
arguments for most dos commands (copy this that andother b: copies all
three specified files to b:), aliases, and echoes the names of deleted
files (I can't believe that we're at DOS 6 - and Novell DOS 7 - and
neither of them echoes the names of deleted files!). Go for it!
Msg 46594 is 19 line(s) on 03/08/94 from ROY LIPSCOMB
to ALL re: ALZHEIMER'S AND OLD PCS
Jim Coates wrote about aging CMOS batteries last Sunday in the
Tribune. Here's a note I emailed to him in response:
jcoats1@aol.com
/R
I saw your article (about aging CMOS batteries) in the Chicago TRIBUNE,
Another problem with very old PCs that is starting to appear is hard-disk
demagnetization.
A few months ago, my PC began to act strange. It would pause during the
access of a certain file on the hard disk; make a long, slow seek
(evidentally to the diagnostic cylinder); then slowly seek back and
continue reading the file. Two days ago, I noticed the same symptom on
a friend's computer.
In both cases, a check of the FAT map showed that there were no clusters
near the hub for either of the files in question. Both our machines are
about nine or ten years old.
I completely cured the problem on my machine by simply running SPINRITE,
and I hope to do the same for my friend's machine very soon.
Thanks for bringing the CMOS battery problem to our attention.
Msg 46595 is 16 line(s) on 03/08/94 from KEVIN HUOTARI
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: HAMFESTS
hi ward. it's been a long time since i logged on, but my wife rememebered
the exchange and i remembered the number. this was the first bbs we logged
in to and it's a great pleasure to drop in again. i think that was about
the time you all started up, and i want to extend my thanks for all the
good work you've provided for us over the years. it was a pretty good idea
back then and i'm so happy to have been a part of it. i'm looking at my
calendar now, and i see grey's lake on march 27th. that's always been a
pretty good hamfest, so i think we'll head up there to see what's
available, junkwise and for weird small parts. are you on packet? i moved
back downtown recently, and haven't gotten a IP station
up cuz the rf links are questionable, but that's the plan. we'll see what
capra comes up with. again, thanks for everything. it's been great, and we
all owe you all so much. so let's see if i remember the cbbs command for
sending a message. kevin h & marie sarapata
.
no that's not it.
Msg 46596 is 06 line(s) on 03/09/94 from HARVEY NICE
to ALL re: FREE ASR-33 TTYS!
I will give away to the first takers 2 ASR-33 Teletypes
which were working when last used 2 or 3 years ago.
They must be picked up in Lake Forest-I cannot ship!
Possibly some manuals also. Here is a chance to acquire
a piece of history-the price is right!
Call 708-234-3000 Ext. 371 and leave message.
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>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930314.ch
+163
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@@ -0,0 +1,163 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
03/14/94 22:41:38
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232128; next msg =46602; 368 active msgs.
Prev. call 03/11/94 @ 06:12, next msg was 46597
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 11
KILLED. 70
SUMMARY. 25
:12:08,232094,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46597,
E#46598,17
03/11/94,11:22:47,232095,2,GARY ELFRING,,17
03/11/94,14:54:37,232096,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
03/11/94,15:02:13,232097,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/11/94,15:11:39,232098,2,BILL TRESNAK,bartlett/il,21
]thanks for stillwaters phone#
BILL TRESNAK,
03/11/94,17:06:27,232099,2,WILLIAM BERGMAN,Roselle/Il,11
03/11/94,20:22:39,232100,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/11/94,21:08:07,232101,2,ICARUS BARABUS,chicago,9
03/12/94,00:42:46,232102,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/12/94,15:27:18,232103,2,DERRICK MARTIN,chicago/ il,4
03/12/94,15:32:34,232104,2,PETE CANTELE,,3
03/12/94,15:37:42,232105,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
03/12/94,16:13:43,232106,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/12/94,17:13:19,232107,2,JIM THALE,,2
03/12/94,18:52:48,232108,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/12/94,19:10:03,232109,2,EDWARD MARSH,,
>Help: HELP NEW MESSAGES,
>Help: A,
E#46599,23
03/12/94,20:10:00,232110,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,2
03/12/94,20:29:42,232111,2,ED FOSTER,,2
03/12/94,22:41:40,232112,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
03/12/94,23:37:53,232113,2,EDWARD KEEGAN,Chicago,14
03/13/94,00:20:03,232114,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,4
03/13/94,14:18:07,232115,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
03/13/94,15:48:43,232116,2,JIM THALE,,1
03/13/94,16:27:31,232117,2,CYRUS PATEL,,0
03/13/94,21:43:59,232118,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
03/13/94,22:38:12,232119,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,5
03/13/94,23:42:47,232120,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
03/14/94,01:42:12,232121,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/14/94,03:30:33,232122,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,2
03/14/94,03:33:26,232123,2,DENNIS SLADEK,,2
03/14/94,09:49:06,232124,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/14/94,16:46:30,232125,2,PAUL STREETER,,
03/14/94,18:22:04,232126,2,LARRY GLASSMAN,,1
03/14/94,21:17:59,232127,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,
E#46600,
E#46601,9
03/14/94,22:41:42,232128,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46597 03/11/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => KEVIN HUOTARI: "R/HAMFESTS"
46598 03/11/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ROY LIPSCOMB: "R/ALZHEIMER'S AND OLD PCS"
46599 03/12/94 EDWARD MARSH => ALL: "JAPAN PART CROSS REF'S"
46600 03/14/94 ROY LIPSCOMB => WARD/ALL: "ALZHEIMER'S AND OLD PCS"
46601 03/14/94 ROY LIPSCOMB => ALL: "(I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP)"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46597 is 05 line(s) on 03/11/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to KEVIN HUOTARI re: R/HAMFESTS
Thanks, nice to hear from you again. Grays Lake Hamfest, is that the one
up near the Wisconsin border? I recall going to that one about a year ago.
Thanks for all the kind words!
Heh, no, '.' isn't how you get out of input mode on CBBS - it is just a
blank line.
Msg 46598 is 25 line(s) on 03/11/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ROY LIPSCOMB re: R/ALZHEIMER'S AND OLD PCS
Thanks for the msg, Roy. That "long seek" you found was NOT to the
diagnostic cylinder - if it was a slow kind of "grinding" or "buzzing"
sort of sound - if I'm guessing right, that was a "recalibrate". That
is a function the drive contains, for figuring out "where it is".
When the drive seeks, it does a read to see what cylinder it is on.
If the cylinder isn't the one it expected, which can be due to failing
seek mechanism, or due to loss of magnetism (can't read the required
header info once the seek is done) then it does a "recal" which is a
process like "Oops, I can't figure where I am, so I'd better very slowly
and carefully seek back out to track 0 (at which point a special sensor
says 'OK, you've gotten to track 0') at which time I can again seek
quickly to various cylinders".
Actually the drive has NO idea of "absolute seeks" - it can NOT seek
say to track 123, but what it does is say "OK, lets see, I'm on track
83, so I have to step in 40 tracks to get to track 123", i.e. it always
seeks RELATIVE to its past position. Thus, if it ever gets lost, it
could have done a seek to 123 but arrive at 122 due to a hardware glitch,
so it has to slowly (since for all it knows, something could have gone
wrong and it could ACTUALLY be on track 2!) seek back until it finds
itself at 0, THEN quickly issue 123 "step in" commands.
Spinrite helped because of reading a track's worth of data, then
low level formatting that track, then writing the info back. Backing up,
doing a low-level format, and restoring, would have done the job, too.
Spinrite is nice in that you don't "have" to back up and restore, though
you SHOULD have a backup "just in case".
Msg 46599 is 15 line(s) on 03/12/94 from EDWARD MARSH
to ALL re: JAPAN PART CROSS REF'S
I have a few parts that I am trying to cross reference from a japanese product.
I called Tri-state and found that no cross matches could be found under the
part numbers I gave. I have no idea how to find such information and would
like it if anyone out there knows of such a reference. I have the following
parts:
D571: transistor I think?
C3457: Power MOS fet?, Regulator?,
D1805: tansistor?
The D571 & D1805 are three terimal devices, and are in packages that I
have never seen. (not a TO-226). The case is more square that round.
The C3457 is in a TO-220 case (same as the 78xx regulator series case).
Any info anyone can offer would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Msg 46600 is 09 line(s) on 03/14/94 from ROY LIPSCOMB
to WARD/ALL re: ALZHEIMER'S AND OLD PCS
Thanks, Ward, for your clarification on what was going on in the
hard drives. SPINRITE has one advantage over the low-level reformating
done by other utilities: SPINRITE can also adjust the sector
interleave. Mine was already set to optimum (2:1), but my friend's
old ATT 6300 was reset to 7:1 (from 5:1) by SPINRITE, and the
throughput was increased to 112,000 bps (from 27,000 bps). The
improvement is quite noticeable. "Just because there's snow on the
roof, don't think there isn't fire in the furnace!" (For those
whippersnappers among us, "snow" refers to "white hair.")
Msg 46601 is 10 line(s) on 03/14/94 from ROY LIPSCOMB
to ALL re: "(I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP)"
From the Chicago TRIBUNE, March 6, 1994, Section 4, p. 3:
"Some people who have bought computers, bedazzled with reports
about their possibilities, can't even get started. One computer
manufacturer told the Wall Street Jounal its help line gets 8,000
calls a day. A customer complained, for example, that her computer
wouldn't work even though she kept pushing her foot on the pedal.
She had to be told that you don't step on a mouse.
"A man couldn't get his computer to fax a letter even though
he held it in front of the screen and repeatedly pushed the 'send'
button."
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930324.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
03/24/94 21:21:33
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232189; next msg =46606; 371 active msgs.
Prev. call 03/14/94 @ 22:41, next msg was 46602
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 4
KILLED. 71
SUMMARY. 25
03/24/94,21:21:37,232189,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46602 03/15/94 ERIC BOHLMAN => ROY LIPSCOMB: "R/"(I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP)"
46603 03/17/94 STEVE RYAN => EDWARD MARSH: "R/JAPAN PART CROSS REF'S"
46604X 03/21/94 JOHN SIMPSON => ALL: "NEW BBS"
46605 03/23/94 JAMES MCKINZIE => ALL: "SALE"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46602 is 07 line(s) on 03/15/94 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to ROY LIPSCOMB re: R/"(I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP)"
There's a (probably apocryphal) story about the support person who
guessed that the user hadn't closed the door on a disk drive and asked
the user to close the door. The user said "hold on" and a moment later
the support person heard the sound of a room door closing in the background.
About a month ago I received a letter requesting a demo copy of a program
I sell. It stated, verbatim, "I need it on the 3 1/4 inch hard dick."
Msg 46603 is 03 line(s) on 03/17/94 from STEVE RYAN
to EDWARD MARSH re: R/JAPAN PART CROSS REF'S
express those numbers as 2SD571,2SC3457 and 2SD1805
such is industry shorthand,I will post the sub numbers from my
ECG book if I can find it.
No msg 46604
Msg 46605 is 06 line(s) on 03/23/94 from JAMES MCKINZIE
to ALL re: SALE
for sale one compaq 286deskpro w/1.5 meg ram
and vga card, 2400 modem and 40meg hdrive 3 1/2,+5 1/4 flopies
make me an offer i can't refuse no monitor is included
just keyboard->
james
s
dup. chars.
>Function:?type log,ward c
03/14/94,22:44:05,232129,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
03/15/94,00:30:34,232130,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/15/94,03:44:12,232131,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#46602,6
03/15/94,07:53:59,232132,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/15/94,12:25:04,232133,2,TERRY EDWARDS,Columbia/ Mo.,11
]As a newcomer to this board, I find it unfathomable!!
OD
A more user friendly interface would be helpful, history or not !!
OD
See what I mean ?? What do I do when it says ?OD ??
I am an experienced BBSer bu this board is Backassward !!
Please update user interface. Till then, BYE-BYE.
TERRY EDWARDS,
03/15/94,16:27:20,232134,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
03/15/94,21:58:15,232135,2,EDWARD MARSH,,1
03/16/94,12:18:14,232136,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
03/16/94,17:56:19,232137,2,ALEX ZELL,,4
]Too bad he won't be back.
.
ALEX ZELL,7
]You will have to forgo the pleasure of reaming him.
ALEX ZELL,
03/16/94,20:21:29,232138,2,JOSEPH LOMBARDI,Albert Lea MN,5
03/16/94,20:45:33,232139,2,DAVID GIBBS,,2
03/16/94,22:16:01,232140,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,1
03/16/94,22:20:35,232141,2,MICHAEL MCCORMAC,Des Plaines/IL,3
03/16/94,23:32:50,232142,2,MICHAEL MCCORMAC,,1
03/17/94,01:55:03,232143,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
03/17/94,02:16:35,232144,2,STEVE RYAN,,
E#46603,10
03/17/94,16:18:11,232145,2,MANNY KRAKAUER,chicago il,4
03/17/94,17:27:11,232146,2,MARTY DIPPEL,,3
03/17/94,21:48:56,232147,2,BOB FLUEGGE,Oak Park/ IL,9
]good to be back. thanks for the number, again.
Bob Fluegge
BOB FLUEGGE,
03/18/94,00:22:34,232148,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,6
03/18/94,08:35:40,232149,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
03/18/94,12:12:25,232150,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
03/18/94,14:31:59,232151,2,JOHN BAIRD,Quincy/ IL,6
03/18/94,15:01:40,232152,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/18/94,22:41:51,232153,2,EDWARD KEEGAN,,2
03/19/94,01:13:02,232154,2,JASON MOSHER,columbia city/in,12
03/19/94,08:00:29,232155,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,3
03/19/94,10:13:37,232156,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
03/19/94,12:00:36,232157,2,STEVE DOMINIAK,Chicago/IL,
03/19/94,13:47:13,232158,2,BOB SULIN,,1
03/19/94,20:00:00,232159,2,STEVE RYAN,,
03/19/94,22:19:10,232160,2,FRED BACH,Montvale/ N.J.,5
03/20/94,03:06:31,232161,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/20/94,09:32:48,232162,2,AL HIGGINS,,7
03/20/94,12:31:55,232163,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
03/20/94,22:51:13,232164,2,JOE JOHNSON,,6
03/20/94,23:06:36,232165,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
03/21/94,01:00:09,232166,2,GENE WARNER,Grand Haven MI,3
03/21/94,11:11:33,232167,2,PETE JONES,,1
03/21/94,13:24:30,232168,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,2
03/21/94,22:25:07,232169,2,JOHN SIMPSON,,
E#46604,9
]JOHN SIMPSON,
03/22/94,00:42:49,232170,2,PETE CANTELE,,3
03/22/94,01:16:01,232171,2,G G,AUSTIN,
03/22/94,01:18:16,232172,2,G G,AUTO,
03/22/94,02:42:07,232173,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/22/94,02:52:38,232174,2,ALEX ZELL,,4
]K'd 46604, bogus number.
ALEX ZELL,
03/22/94,07:15:10,232175,2,NICK KAYE,Evanston/ IL,4
03/22/94,07:55:02,232176,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
03/22/94,08:46:03,232177,2,JEFF MARTIN,,9
03/22/94,10:19:22,232178,2,DAVID WINNER,chicago/il,4
03/22/94,11:15:40,232179,2,MANNY KRAKAUER,,
03/22/94,18:47:43,232180,2,IQBAL HUSSAIN,CHICAGO,
03/22/94,22:06:06,232181,2,JOE JESSON,,4
03/22/94,23:00:15,232182,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,0
03/23/94,11:55:50,232183,2,ALEX ZELL,,
03/23/94,13:08:18,232184,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
03/23/94,16:53:35,232185,2,STEVE RYAN,,
03/23/94,23:33:27,232186,2,JAMES MCKINZIE,elgin,
E#46605,15
03/24/94,12:18:16,232187,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
03/24/94,15:56:35,232188,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
03/24/94,21:21:37,232189,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
>Function:?
>Function:?g;y
03/24/94 21:23:59
Connect time 2 minutes
1:?Thanks for checking out that number, AZ...
2:?
Y/N Done?
SIGNED: WARD CHRISTENSEN
Char counts: 204 typed by you, 5650 typed by system.
from Ward and Randy, thanks for calling, WARD
bbs/CBBS/1994/930403.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
04/03/94 01:34:51
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232244; next msg =46620; 373 active msgs.
Prev. call 04/02/94 @ 11:22, next msg was 46616
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abort
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 7
KILLED. 74
SUMMARY. 25
04/02/94,11:22:12,232236,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46616,
E#46617,
E#46618,
]S,USERS,21
04/02/94,21:07:36,232237,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
04/02/94,21:32:26,232238,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
04/02/94,23:05:47,232239,2,EMMANUEL SEMMES,,1
04/02/94,23:53:55,232240,2,JACK KOWALSKI,hoffman est.,6
04/02/94,23:58:43,232241,2,JACK KOWALSKI,,5
04/03/94,00:06:17,232242,2,JACK KOWALSKI,,4
04/03/94,00:09:48,232243,2,JACK KOWALSKI,,
E#46619,41
04/03/94,01:34:55,232244,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46616 04/02/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => JERRY HASLETT: "R/SATELITE ACCESS TO INTERNET"
46617 04/02/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ROY LIPSCOMB: "R/"(I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP)"
46618 04/02/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => STEVE RYAN: "R/UPGRADING PS/2"
46619 04/03/94 JACK KOWALSKI => ALL: "386SX FOR SALE"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46616 is 06 line(s) on 04/02/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to JERRY HASLETT re: R/SATELITE ACCESS TO INTERNET
Randy Suess (CBBS Co-inventor) gets his NEWS feed from a satellite,
is that what you were looking for? Chinet's guest line is 312-283-0559,
if I remember right.
I THINK there was some talk about getting encrypted mail via satellite -
you'd be sent the decryption key for your system, but not sure if that
happened or not (I mean, Randy doesn't do it, but it might have happened).
Msg 46617 is 02 line(s) on 04/02/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ROY LIPSCOMB re: R/"(I'M NOT MAKING THIS UP)"
> Computer virgins
Did you mean computer VIRUSES?
Msg 46618 is 06 line(s) on 04/02/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to STEVE RYAN re: R/UPGRADING PS/2
Upgrading to a 386-SX would be the most practical - but it will depends
upon what you have and what you want. The case is a small form-factor,
and doesn't have an upgradeable motherboard. Also the video is just
VGA - and if you are say at CGA or "nothing" now, that's a step up, but
it isn't super-VGA (800 x 600 resolution) nor is the monitor.
You might be better off looking at a new 386SX.
Msg 46619 is 03 line(s) on 04/03/94 from JACK KOWALSKI
to ALL re: 386SX FOR SALE
386SX16 with math copr. 2MB\44MB HD, 1.2MB FDD, 14"flat screen
color monitor & modem, DOS 6.2, Windows 3.1 . Call 708 885 8585
Only $475
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930407.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
04/07/94 22:53:28
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232278; next msg =46623; 376 active msgs.
Prev. call 04/03/94 @ 01:34, next msg was 46620
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 9
KILLED. 74
SUMMARY. 25
04/02/94,11:22:12,232236,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46616,
E#46617,
E#46618,
]S,USERS,21
04/02/94,21:07:36,232237,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
04/02/94,21:32:26,232238,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,1
04/02/94,23:05:47,232239,2,EMMANUEL SEMMES,,1
04/02/94,23:53:55,232240,2,JACK KOWALSKI,hoffman est.,6
04/02/94,23:58:43,232241,2,JACK KOWALSKI,,5
04/03/94,00:06:17,232242,2,JACK KOWALSKI,,4
04/03/94,00:09:48,232243,2,JACK KOWALSKI,,
E#46619,41
04/03/94,01:34:55,232244,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
04/03/94,02:39:10,232245,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,2
]bleeping daylight savings...
I like 25 hour days, not 23!
WARD CHRISTENSEN,
04/03/94,06:14:28,232246,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
04/03/94,18:03:18,232247,2,MARK SPANAGEL,Onalaska/ WI,4
04/03/94,20:37:59,232248,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,3
04/03/94,20:45:00,232249,2,CHARLES KUKULSKI,,2
04/03/94,21:05:55,232250,2,STEVE RYAN,,
E#46620,17
04/03/94,22:52:03,232251,2,JOSEPH SKOM,,3
04/04/94,02:52:17,232252,2,CYRUS PATEL,,3
04/04/94,03:02:38,232253,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,4
04/04/94,07:30:21,232254,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
04/04/94,14:58:01,232255,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/04/94,16:09:45,232256,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
04/04/94,17:57:08,232257,2,NICKI MODABER,,
E#46621,
>Help: (H),25
]no comments at this time.
NICKI MODABER,
04/04/94,21:41:42,232258,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
04/04/94,23:10:11,232259,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,0
04/05/94,01:10:22,232260,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2
04/05/94,07:07:29,232261,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/05/94,11:57:52,232262,2,DONN BRISKIE,,7
04/05/94,16:33:09,232263,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
04/05/94,19:49:42,232264,2,JOHN BATISTA,CHICAGO/ IL,1
04/05/94,22:35:09,232265,2,NICKI MODABER,,17
04/06/94,02:54:36,232266,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/06/94,03:23:43,232267,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/06/94,03:26:42,232268,2,ALEX ZELL,,
E#46622,
04/06/94,10:14:05,232269,2,JOHN BATISTA,,2
]JOHN BATISTA,
04/06/94,11:11:08,232270,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
04/06/94,12:42:41,232271,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/06/94,15:45:54,232272,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/06/94,17:27:36,232273,2,DON PIVEN,,3
04/06/94,22:42:04,232274,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,4
04/07/94,00:36:16,232275,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,4
04/07/94,10:14:06,232276,2,HARVEY NICE,,14
04/07/94,22:11:10,232277,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
04/07/94,22:53:32,232278,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46620 04/03/94 STEVE RYAN => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/UPGRADING PS/2"
46621 04/04/94 NICKI MODABER => ALL: "ON LINE SERVICES"
46622 04/06/94 ALEX ZELL => NICKI MODABER: "RE: ONLINE SERVICES"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46620 is 07 line(s) on 04/03/94 from STEVE RYAN
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/UPGRADING PS/2
It's main use will be EE related software,circuit simulations
nothing real heavy. I know going from 640k to 2 meg involves
an expansion board that costs more than I paid for the system!
the hard drive is a bit small and I would like to add another so
could I add any IDE type controller and drive that will fit
and yes I have seen the 286-486 modules but in this case $250 or so
would be better wasted on ram,storage or a new monitor.
Msg 46621 is 09 line(s) on 04/04/94 from NICKI MODABER
to ALL re: ON LINE SERVICES
I am new to modems. Please be patient with me. I have an old 8088 pc clonen
with a 40 meg hard drive. No mouse. Am interested in subscribing to an o(c)
on line service. Would appreciate any advice on subject. Am interested
in forums on health, arts, and things like that. Would like the airline re
servation lookup capability, electronic shopping, chatting, internet access
if possible, capability for international message sending - especially to
1-2 hours per week on line. Any suggestions for the best deal that would meet
most if not all of my needs? America Online was suggested to me, but I'm
modem. Thanks for any helpful suggestions! NSM, Evanston, Illinois.
Msg 46622 is 11 line(s) on 04/06/94 from ALEX ZELL
to NICKI MODABER re: RE: ONLINE SERVICES
Your have several choices. AOL you mention is one. Another
would be CompuServe at $8.95 which gives free access to a number
of services including airline scheduling thru Eeasy SABRE (free)
or OAG (extra charge), various discussion forums (extra charges
run up the bill) as well as international mail.
The best service, which includes Internet access, is provided
by RCI at $11 a month, and is in the "A" phone zone from
Evanston,in the Lakeview exchange. Included is international
mail and full Usenet news. For info dial via modem at any speed:
312-665-0065. No time limit on usage.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930410.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
04/10/94 14:04:05
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232292; next msg =46624; 377 active msgs.
Prev. call 04/07/94 @ 22:53, next msg was 46623
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 10
KILLED. 74
SUMMARY. 25
04/03/94,02:39:10,232245,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,2
]bleeping daylight savings...
I like 25 hour days, not 23!
WARD CHRISTENSEN,
04/03/94,06:14:28,232246,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
04/03/94,18:03:18,232247,2,MARK SPANAGEL,Onalaska/ WI,4
04/03/94,20:37:59,232248,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,3
04/03/94,20:45:00,232249,2,CHARLES KUKULSKI,,2
04/03/94,21:05:55,232250,2,STEVE RYAN,,
E#46620,17
04/03/94,22:52:03,232251,2,JOSEPH SKOM,,3
04/04/94,02:52:17,232252,2,CYRUS PATEL,,3
04/04/94,03:02:38,232253,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,4
04/04/94,07:30:21,232254,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
04/04/94,14:58:01,232255,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/04/94,16:09:45,232256,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
04/04/94,17:57:08,232257,2,NICKI MODABER,,
E#46621,
>Help: (H),25
]no comments at this time.
NICKI MODABER,
04/04/94,21:41:42,232258,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
04/04/94,23:10:11,232259,2,KEVIN PRECHT,,0
04/05/94,01:10:22,232260,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2
04/05/94,07:07:29,232261,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/05/94,11:57:52,232262,2,DONN BRISKIE,,7
04/05/94,16:33:09,232263,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
04/05/94,19:49:42,232264,2,JOHN BATISTA,CHICAGO/ IL,1
04/05/94,22:35:09,232265,2,NICKI MODABER,,17
04/06/94,02:54:36,232266,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/06/94,03:23:43,232267,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/06/94,03:26:42,232268,2,ALEX ZELL,,
E#46622,
04/06/94,10:14:05,232269,2,JOHN BATISTA,,2
]JOHN BATISTA,
04/06/94,11:11:08,232270,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
04/06/94,12:42:41,232271,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/06/94,15:45:54,232272,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/06/94,17:27:36,232273,2,DON PIVEN,,3
04/06/94,22:42:04,232274,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,4
04/07/94,00:36:16,232275,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,4
04/07/94,10:14:06,232276,2,HARVEY NICE,,14
04/07/94,22:11:10,232277,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
04/07/94,22:53:32,232278,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
04/08/94,06:33:16,232279,2,NICKI MODABER,,
E#46623,10
04/08/94,15:41:45,232280,2,DAN HINES,evanston/il,2
]wheres the files?????
DAN HINES,
04/08/94,15:56:55,232281,2,PETE JONES,,1
04/08/94,16:35:13,232282,2,LYNN ANDERSON,,6
04/08/94,20:01:49,232283,2,STEVE RYAN,,2
04/08/94,20:40:15,232284,2,FRANK KELLY,des plaines il,5
04/09/94,09:45:57,232285,2,NICKI MODABER,,4
04/09/94,14:25:03,232286,2,TED HEARNE,Chicago/ IL,2
04/09/94,14:58:36,232287,2,FRANK KELLY,,4
04/10/94,00:17:24,232288,2,LAWRENCE MILLER,La Grange / Illinois,22
04/10/94,00:42:55,232289,2,LAWRENCE MILLER,,11
04/10/94,03:35:30,232290,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,0
04/10/94,09:49:09,232291,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,2
04/10/94,14:04:08,232292,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46623 04/08/94 NICKI MODABER => ALEX ZELL: "R/RE: ONLINE SERVICES"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46623 is 04 line(s) on 04/08/94 from NICKI MODABER
to ALEX ZELL re: R/RE: ONLINE SERVICES
Alex->Thanks for the advice. I'm reading about the big name on lines
such as Prodigy and CompuServe. Hadn't heard about RCI. Will check it out
over the wknd. I appreciate your assistance. Don't have any high tech ad-
vice I wish I could contribute to the BBS. <-Nicki Modaber
dup. chars.
>Function:?
04/10/94 14:06:15
Connect time 2 minutes
..Please continue, WARD
04/10/94 14:07:14
Connect time 3 minutes
CBBS is a single user system.
Hope you don't mind my making it
available for som
NO CARRIER
bbs/CBBS/1994/930420.ch
+73
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@@ -0,0 +1,73 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
04/20/94 23:07:14
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232370; next msg =46635; 369 active msgs.
Prev. call 04/18/94 @ 21:53, next msg was 46634
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 2
KILLED. 8
SUMMARY. 25
04/18/94,22:15:04,232351,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,4
04/18/94,22:33:57,232352,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1
04/19/94,07:48:19,232353,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/19/94,12:58:41,232354,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,1
04/19/94,14:39:56,232355,2,GARY MCCOY,,10
04/19/94,15:15:18,232356,2,STEVE LANGE,Chicago/ IL,2
04/19/94,17:16:51,232357,2,PAUL STREETER,,
E#46634,15
04/19/94,18:28:41,232358,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,2
04/19/94,21:50:00,232359,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
04/19/94,21:56:06,232360,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,3
04/20/94,01:55:42,232361,2,STEVE RYAN,,7
04/20/94,03:07:29,232362,2,DAVE WOODS,chicago/ IL,
04/20/94,07:46:27,232363,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
04/20/94,11:28:09,232364,2,JOHN HOLLY,northbrook/il,
04/20/94,11:32:52,232365,2,GGCGCGCF FCGCGCJHGV,,1
04/20/94,13:52:53,232366,2,HARVEY NICE,,4
04/20/94,15:06:03,232367,2,ALEX ZELL,,
04/20/94,16:16:11,232368,2,FRANCISCO ALVARO,DEERFIELD,4
04/20/94,20:56:22,232369,2,ED LARSON,ma,
04/20/94,23:07:18,232370,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46634 04/19/94 PAUL STREETER => ALL: "VIRUS"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46634 is 17 line(s) on 04/19/94 from PAUL STREETER
to ALL re: VIRUS
Has anyone heard of a virus that apparently gets into the master boot record
of the hard disk and then does little damage except make the computer act as
though the A: drive is seriously in need of replacement. Two machines in my
office have been infected by it, one of them twice. They are COMPAQ Prol's
and it was COMPAQ customer support that suspected it was a virus and talked
me through the diagnosis and fix. The MICROSOFT antivirus did not find
anything. The diagnosis confirmation was to do CHKDSK and observe that the
line near the bottom that should say "655360 bytes total memory" instead
had a figure about 2K lower than that. The fix was to boot from a (write
protected) floppy and then run FDISK /MBR also from the floppy. /MBR means
write a new master boot record on the C: drive. This works, but COMPAQ does
not know the source of the virus and I have become curious, especially since
a few people in my office don't believe it is a virus.
Little damage is perhaps an under assessment of the results. The "bad" drive
messes up the FAT of any floppy it writes on. NORTON can fix it if you are
quick and lucky.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930506.ch
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@@ -0,0 +1,48 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
05/06/94 21:40:22
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232427; next msg =46640; 372 active msgs.
Prev. call 04/20/94 @ 23:07, next msg was 46635
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 5
KILLED. 9
SUMMARY. 25
05/06/94,21:40:25,232427,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46635 04/20/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => PAUL STREETER: "R/VIRUS"
46636 04/21/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => PAUL STREETER: "R/VIRUS"
46637 04/22/94 ROY LIPSCOMB => WARD: "OLD BULLETIN"
46638 04/26/94 ALEX ZELL => ROY LIPSCOMB: "RE/RE:OLD BULLETIN"
46639X 04/29/94 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "NEW BBS IN LAKE/ CO./ IL"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46635 is 05 line(s) on 04/20/94 from W
dup. chars.
>Function:?
NO CARRIER
A/
CARRIER 2400
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
NO CARRIER
A/
bbs/CBBS/1994/930519.ch
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@@ -0,0 +1,293 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
05/19/94 21:16:59
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232512; next msg =46650; 379 active msgs.
Prev. call 05/06/94 @ 21:40, next msg was 46640
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 9
KILLED. 10
SUMMARY. 26
type-50 log,ward c;or;*;short
05/06/94,21:40:25,232427,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
05/06/94,22:41:34,232428,2,VLAD KERZHENEVICH,Chicago/ IL,
05/06/94,23:14:16,232429,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,0
05/06/94,23:20:55,232430,2,WAYNE SPATH,,6
05/07/94,13:45:47,232431,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#46640,5
05/07/94,14:17:49,232432,2,RANDAL CRAIG,,2
05/07/94,14:25:07,232433,2,BRIAN W,,
05/07/94,16:14:03,232434,2,DOUG STAHL,Morris/ Il,6
05/07/94,17:40:21,232435,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/07/94,17:42:13,232436,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/07/94,21:07:46,232437,2,WAYNE CRANE,,4
]WAYNE CRANE,
05/07/94,22:48:28,232438,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,
E#46641,4
05/08/94,00:25:41,232439,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
05/08/94,00:37:13,232440,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
05/08/94,05:42:25,232441,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,2
05/08/94,08:29:18,232442,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46642,
]S,BULLETIN,
]R,BULLETIN,13
05/08/94,09:19:20,232443,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#46643,7
05/08/94,11:53:34,232444,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
05/08/94,11:59:54,232445,2,BILL MATTSON,,
E#46644,18
05/08/94,14:21:42,232446,2,STEVE RYAN,,
05/08/94,17:28:47,232447,2,STEVE CASTLE,,1
05/08/94,18:01:05,232448,2,RONALD TURNER,chicago/ il,4
05/08/94,18:15:09,232449,2,RONALD TURNER,,1
05/08/94,18:41:29,232450,2,STEVE CASTLE,,12
05/08/94,19:09:45,232451,2,STEVE CASTLE,,1
05/08/94,20:59:08,232452,2,BRUCE BAKER,,3
05/08/94,21:29:55,232453,2,BENJAMIN COHEN,,1
05/08/94,23:43:53,232454,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,2
05/09/94,01:55:58,232455,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,3
05/09/94,08:22:48,232456,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
05/09/94,10:54:11,232457,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
05/09/94,11:40:38,232458,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
05/09/94,16:10:07,232459,2,THEODORE RUBIN,Northbrook/ IL,2
05/09/94,18:00:08,232460,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/09/94,21:53:50,232461,2,JIM DAHLQUIST,palatine/il,
E#46645,13
05/09/94,23:02:01,232462,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,4
05/10/94,09:50:08,232463,2,JOE SEROCKI,,
E#46646,2
05/10/94,10:16:24,232464,2,MIKE SCHUMACHER,,3
05/10/94,11:22:36,232465,2,JAMES SMITH,,
05/10/94,14:24:58,232466,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,3
05/11/94,00:39:51,232467,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/11/94,14:08:23,232468,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/11/94,17:22:29,232469,2,DON PIVEN,,2
05/11/94,23:54:08,232470,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
E#46647,12
05/12/94,08:27:35,232471,2,GARY MCCOY,,2
05/12/94,10:53:29,232472,2,STEVE CASTLE,,0
05/12/94,13:00:43,232473,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2
05/12/94,17:29:19,232474,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
05/13/94,07:06:09,232475,2,JOE SEROCKI,,1
05/13/94,09:40:29,232476,2,RON MOODY,Tewksbury Ma,13
05/13/94,10:41:34,232477,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
05/13/94,13:06:33,232478,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,0
05/13/94,13:08:58,232479,2,ROBERT COURTNEY,chicago/il,12
05/13/94,14:54:00,232480,2,JOHN BROOKS,SAN DIEGO/ CA,4
05/13/94,18:09:07,232481,2,WLADYSLAW MYSZ,chicago/il,
>Help: Y,5
05/13/94,22:12:12,232482,2,HADES PYES,,6
05/13/94,22:16:15,232483,2,JOSEPH SKOM,,
05/13/94,23:17:32,232484,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
05/14/94,02:48:51,232485,2,KADMIEL STAMPFER,,
05/14/94,03:43:05,232486,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,3
05/14/94,15:59:00,232487,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/14/94,17:17:36,232488,2,TOM T,chicago/ il,
05/15/94,00:37:27,232489,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
05/15/94,08:19:47,232490,2,BILL NATT,Chicago/ IL,3
05/15/94,08:27:50,232491,2,ROBERT FLUEGGE,Oak PArk,10
05/15/94,09:07:27,232492,2,MIKE UNKOWN,chgo,
05/15/94,09:25:13,232493,2,MIKE TORO,chgo/il,
E#46648,7
05/15/94,10:26:26,232494,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
05/15/94,14:39:39,232495,2,BEN CHAPMAN,,5
05/15/94,18:31:21,232496,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,8
05/16/94,05:19:37,232497,2,PETE JONES,,1
05/16/94,07:31:44,232498,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/16/94,17:01:33,232499,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/17/94,07:04:10,232500,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/17/94,10:51:49,232501,2,RICHARD PAQUETTE,,3
05/17/94,13:35:58,232502,2,MIKE DEER,,
E#46649,18
05/17/94,13:59:29,232503,2,JACOB FARBER,,1
05/17/94,14:36:13,232504,2,TONY KANWAR,chicago/il,3
05/18/94,08:40:50,232505,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,2
05/18/94,11:09:18,232506,2,MIKE SCHUMACHER,,2
05/18/94,11:13:00,232507,2,MIKE SCHUMACHER,,
05/18/94,22:04:28,232508,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
05/19/94,01:47:24,232509,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/19/94,09:06:46,232510,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/19/94,13:55:53,232511,2,DON PIVEN,,1
05/19/94,21:17:03,232512,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46640 05/07/94 ANDY SHAPIRO => ALL: "NOTHING IN PARTIC"
46641 05/07/94 DONNIE STUHLMAN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/NOTHING IN PARTIC"
46642 05/08/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/NOTHING IN PARTIC"
46643 05/08/94 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD: "CBBS DOWN?"
46644 05/08/94 BILL MATTSON => WARD/ ALL: "CBBS"
46645 05/09/94 JIM DAHLQUIST => ALL: "WANTED/ TELCOM/ AUDIO ENGINEER"
46646 05/10/94 JOE SEROCKI => ALL: "ESDI DRIVES FOR SALE/TRADE"
46647 05/11/94 MICHAEL SHARTIAG => WARD/ALL: "ANSWER??WHAT NO ANSWER!"
46648X 05/15/94 MIKE TORO => ALL: "COMPUTER INTERFACEABLE MUSIC"
46649 05/17/94 MIKE DEER => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/WINDOWS NT/ NT SERVER"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46640 is 10 line(s) on 05/07/94 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to ALL re: NOTHING IN PARTIC
HEY! This is pitiful! Have things gone so far in BBS land that nobody
talks anymore? I was noticing that the messages here are few and far-
between, and I began to wonder (actually, I'm certain!) if we've seen the
end of the BBS revolution. I use a number of boards in Upstate NY, and the
level of message traffic is minimal. People log on, download, and log
out. 'BBS' isn't the right name-these things are, by and large, file
servers. And, worse, most of them have the SAME files, thanks to CD
technology. Whatever happened to unique boards with special software, and
better still, special groups of users? Remember (anyone?) when CBBS used
to get 20+ messages a DAY? it wasn't that long ago! SIGH. (flame out)
Msg 46641 is 08 line(s) on 05/07/94 from DONNIE STUHLMAN
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/NOTHING IN PARTIC
I was just thinking myself about the lack of messages here. I
call Compuserv a few times month and learn a lot there. Here I
have left messages and quiries and sometimes I don't get replies.
Usually on Compuserv I get lots of answers.
SO! What servive would you call?
Keep on communicating!
Donnie
/exit
Msg 46642 is 21 line(s) on 05/08/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/NOTHING IN PARTIC
Yep, that's the state of BBSs. You see hundreds if not thousands of
people logging on to AOL, to chat. It has turned into the social meeting
place of the 90s. Talk about "safe sex"!
CBBS was originally (still is, actually) set up as a message board, with
NO files, intentionally, to encourage people to participate.
But people want slick menus, colors, graphics, etc. Things that don't
add to the message content, but make it easier or more interesting to
use.
The same thing is happening at the BBS conventions - well, no, what I mean
is I enjoyed the first year of ONE BBSCON, and somewhat less the 2nd, but
this year I assume there will be 2,000 people there, and I would be quite
bored going to it - so right now I am not going. It is totally commercial.
People with dozens of lines, X.25 links, banks of CD-ROMS, etc.
The main reason CBBS has become so light in use is that it has been down
a lot - as much as 3 months - so "regulars" got out of the habit of calling.
Also people want better software. Heck, I once rode in a model T, and I
wouldn't have changed it! This is a "ride in the model T" except that
it can still be useful, but doesn't have the message traffic sufficient to
get it.
CBBS' modem seems shot - it kept hanging up on me, and only runs at 2400.
Deep down, I almost think CBBS should just be taken down.
Msg 46643 is 20 line(s) on 05/08/94 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to WARD re: CBBS DOWN?
HEAVEN FORFEND! Seriously, Ward, CBBS is in many ways what I think a BBS
OUGHT to be like. It's lean, it's clean. Perhaps if you set it up with a
faster modem (9600?) and advertised it nationally, it might take off.
The costs are high, though-and I'm just an addict, so I call even from
out of town.
What I really miss is the THRILL of logging into a new board and discovering
something new or unexpected. But I'm seeing more and more boards with
ZERO message traffic, and some that won't even take uploads. Why? We'll
wait until it comes out on the CD!
These days, about the only new software I see is that put up in internet
archives like oak.oakland.edu, and the message traffic is usenet. Ahh,
for the good old days!
Please DON'T take CBBS down. If worst comes to worst, maybe you could
find some newer software and still run a single-conference, message-only
board (OK, give them a little color, and maybe they'll come). But I
suppose that it could never be the same.
Msg 46644 is 14 line(s) on 05/08/94 from BILL MATTSON
to WARD/ ALL re: CBBS
Ward.some random thoughts. I note that the Ward Board no longer answers,
although I don't remember any info suggesting it was down, went down, or
was going down. So.first thought: Why not take CBBS down and move all
to Ward Board. This would seem much more convenient for you, the phone
line aside. Second thought: I'll give you an ALTOS Z80 system board, or
if you wish, an entire ALTOS 8000-10A, (serial, parallel, 8-inch FD's,
and 10-meg HD, CP/M, original distb'n diskettes, manuals), and donate
some $ for a decent MODEM, to run the original code native. Third
thought: Spite is a virtue.I've been calling here for a LONG time, and
and would really like to see the old CBBSOSAURUS.REX stay around as a
benchmark of how we all started out in this. Sentimental fool that I am.
Fourth thought: A MODEM faster than 2400 bps is really sort of overkill
on a system intended for message traffic, rather than file traffic, so
maybe someone has an extra MODEM they're not using. Regards
Msg 46645 is 06 line(s) on 05/09/94 from JIM DAHLQUIST
to ALL re: WANTED/ TELCOM/ AUDIO ENGINEER
If you are an experienced engineer and know analog and telcom
design, and you are interested in obtaining a position
with a fast growing small corporation in Buffalo Grove,
please contact me. Jim Dahlquist, Director of Engineering,
Telular Corp. 708-465-4500, 708-465-4504(FAX), or at home
708-358-0465. 5/9/94
Msg 46646 is 10 line(s) on 05/10/94 from JOE SEROCKI
to ALL re: ESDI DRIVES FOR SALE/TRADE
I have (3) Maxtor 314 meg ESDI drives for sale ($200) or trade for a sound
card, hand scanner, or a radio controlled airplane equipment.
.
I do not have cards for these drives, but they area available for $30 from
CSC, 408-734-3475, or I can purchase them for you.
.
These are excellent drives, and will offer you years of service.
.
Please contact me at 708-587-2388 anytime, or via e-mail and leave your
telephone number.
Msg 46647 is 13 line(s) on 05/11/94 from MICHAEL SHARTIAG
to WARD/ALL re: ANSWER??WHAT NO ANSWER!
To the gentleman claiming no response on a message left here: I don't
believe it. I have never seen a message asking for information go
un-answered here.
Ward: I just signed up to goto ONE-BBSCON. you're scarring me!
I am probably inthe minority, but I have so far avoided all national
(suck lots of money out of your wallet) services. I have always been able
to find the files I need locally, and really get almost any technical
problem resolved via peoplr here at CBBS.
When I want files I go elsewhere. When I want to talk to people who
know what they are talking about I come here. People who know that
mico-computers used to have less than 16Meg in them and you could actually
accomplish something with them.
CBBS is sort of like the Coke bottle: A timeless classic.
No msg 46648
Msg 46649 is 13 line(s) on 05/17/94 from MIKE DEER
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/WINDOWS NT/ NT SERVER
We have been using NT Advanced Server about about 6 months. We have a
900+ workstation lan with about 15 servers. We chose NT because
it was the logical sucessor to Lan Manager. Right now, about 1/2 the
servers are Lan Man, the rest are NT. We have found it to be a stable
and very capable server OS. We were able to get around many of the
limitations of MS Lan Manager/OS2 1.3 without upgrading any of the request
software. HOWEVER, if you have any OS/2 workstations on your lan.
lookout! We have experienced a number of flakey problems using
OS/2 in our predominantly Microsoft lan. Support from IBM on these
OS2 crashes has been marginal at best. Finger pointing is common
between these two vendors. But overall, our NT experience
has been very positive (perhaps because we only run it on our file
servers - not on user workstations).
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930522.ch
+91
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@@ -0,0 +1,91 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
05/22/94 11:25:29
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232520; next msg =46654; 374 active msgs.
Prev. call 05/19/94 @ 21:16, next msg was 46650
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abo
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 9
KILLED. 15
SUMMARY. 25
05/19/94,21:17:03,232512,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46650,
E#46651,9
05/20/94,17:13:43,232513,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,5
05/20/94,20:21:21,232514,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
05/20/94,21:56:54,232515,2,DARRELL BARBER,chicago,9
]DARRELL BARBER,
05/20/94,22:13:56,232516,2,DAN MARTIN,Taylorville IL,6
05/21/94,00:21:57,232517,2,BRYAN JONES,,2
05/21/94,19:40:44,232518,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#46652,5
05/22/94,09:43:44,232519,2,RON KRITZMAN,,
E#46653,10
05/22/94,11:25:32,232520,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46650 05/19/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "ONE BBSCON"
46651 05/19/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL MATTSON: "R/CBBS"
46652 05/21/94 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD: "THIS BOARD"
46653 05/22/94 RON KRITZMAN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/THIS BOARD"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46650 is 07 line(s) on 05/19/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: ONE BBSCON
Yep, that's how I see it - totally commercial. Not that that isn't
interesting, but there are people there who mostly are in it for the
money - or who wouldn't be if it weren't for the money, at least.
Unless someone comes begging, I'm not planning to go. Mucho $. Heh,
if I ran a board for money, I could (1) afford to go; and (2) write it
off as a (legit) business expense.
Uh, sorry, I have to remember to call HERE more often!
Msg 46651 is 07 line(s) on 05/19/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to BILL MATTSON re: R/CBBS
Right, I took the Ward Board down on New Years Eve. I saw no point
in getting a call or less per day. no messages. It had no historical
significance, and I saw no reason to keep it going. Heck, the MONITOR
died YEARS ago and so did the 2nd drive, so it was running without
backups, blind, but still cranking away.
I'm not interested in keeping S-100 hardware going. So I killed it.
Thanks for the kind offers of hardware!
Msg 46652 is 09 line(s) on 05/21/94 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to WARD re: THIS BOARD
So-what are you going to do? I must admit that I like this board the
way it is-even if it DOES sometimes make me nostalgic for my old Z80
machine-and I'd hate to see it die. Hmm. I know this is going to
A) sound silly, and B) get somebody telling me how awful the government
is, but have you considered getting a grant to pay for the (minimal)
operating expenses that this board incurs? I mean, one of the reasons
that some of us would like to see CBBS-1 keep operating is simply the
fact that it's an historic board. It has SIGNIFICANCE. I wonder if
there might not be a good source of funds out there somewhere.
Msg 46653 is 04 line(s) on 05/22/94 from RON KRITZMAN
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/THIS BOARD
Andy, The problem with "funding" is that as soon as the government gets
involved the project seases to be yours and starts to be the government's.
Ever been to South Dakota and seen "Crazy Horse" ? Those guys won't
touch government money because they don't want the meddling.
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930525.ch
+89
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@@ -0,0 +1,89 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
05/25/94 21:16:05
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232542; next msg =46656; 376 active msgs.
Prev. call 05/22/94 @ 11:25, next msg was 46654
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 10
KILLED. 15
05/22/94,11:25:32,232520,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46654,4
05/22/94,18:04:03,232521,2,MARTIN MILLER,,
05/22/94,21:08:48,232522,2,JACK DONALDSON,CHICAGO,4
05/22/94,21:12:49,232523,2,JACK DONALDSON,,33
05/23/94,00:18:34,232524,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/23/94,06:58:55,232525,2,DENNIS STAHL,,4
05/23/94,13:03:01,232526,2,DARRELL BARBER,,4
05/23/94,14:16:05,232527,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/23/94,16:40:37,232528,2,PAUL BRAMEL,,8
05/23/94,18:01:11,232529,2,JAY PIAZZA,Addison/ Il,2
05/23/94,18:08:52,232530,2,AL HIGGINS,,8
05/23/94,18:31:05,232531,2,KENNETH SPENCER,Chicago/Illinois,8
05/23/94,22:04:41,232532,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,8
05/23/94,22:20:21,232533,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,4
05/24/94,00:53:22,232534,2,DAN WILSON,SEATTLE WA,5
05/24/94,09:53:32,232535,2,PAUL STREETER,,
E#46655,11
05/24/94,13:24:41,232536,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
05/25/94,01:35:41,232537,2,PETE CANTELE,,2
05/25/94,09:40:50,232538,2,DENNIS STAHL,,0
05/25/94,13:35:50,232539,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/25/94,18:46:14,232540,2,KENNETH SPENCER,,8
05/25/94,20:11:58,232541,2,BRUCE VELDMAN,Darien/ IL,1
05/25/94,21:16:08,232542,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46654 05/22/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "R/THIS BOARD"
46655 05/24/94 PAUL STREETER => WARD: "VIRUS AGAIN"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46654 is 03 line(s) on 05/22/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: R/THIS BOARD
Funding? ha, only a phone line and a couple bucks worth of 'lectricity.
As long as Randy is willing, and doesn't move to the SouthWest like he
is threatening.
Msg 46655 is 12 line(s) on 05/24/94 from PAUL STREETER
to WARD re: VIRUS AGAIN
No, I wasn't smart enough to save the offending master boot record. In fact
I'm not sure how to do that. I modify AUTOEXEC.BAT to include
CHKDSK >CHKDSK.RPT AND MODIFIED a BASIC programs that copies stuff to a
RAM drive to scan the dataset looking for the 655360 figure, and stop the
world with a message when it failed to find it. This happened this morning,
giving us the best clues so far about when the virus was introduced. Since
the user had only one diskette in the machine yesterday, we have a good
suspect, but I am afraid to do anything with the diskette except run MSAV,
which did not find anything. After I sign off, I may call Central point or
someone. The technician at COMPAQ today was not helpful on this problem.
Meanwhile, if it happens again, I will not wipe out the evidence so soon.
dup. chars.
>Function:?r;-1
Msg 46655 is 12 line(s) on 05/24/94 from PAUL STREETER
to WARD re: VIRUS AGAIN
No, I wasn't smart enough to save the offending master boot record. In fact
I'm not sure how to do that. I modify AU
--End of 46655
Msg #:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930530.ch
+95
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@@ -0,0 +1,95 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
05/30/94 02:32:24
++LINE > 9 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER:
3N^%J^U
?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232570; next msg =46659; 376 active msgs.
Prev. call 05/25/94 @ 21:16, next msg was 46656
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 12
KILLED. 16
SUMMARY. 25
05/25/94,21:16:08,232542,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46656,1
05/26/94,01:21:05,232543,2,JAMES JUDSON,Evanston/ IL,
>Help: LOGON,9
]Hi, Just cruising cyberspace. I see that this is supposed to be for
techies, so I imagine I won't be using up your bandwidth
too often, but it was nice knowing you're there. (I was a
little disoriented until I realized I had to use PC ANSI settings.(As
you may have guessed, I have a Mac). Anyway, Goodnite
JAMES JUDSON,
05/26/94,09:05:58,232544,2,PAUL STREETER,,
E#46657,6
05/26/94,09:55:49,232545,2,PHIL JERN,indianapolis in,2
05/26/94,09:58:29,232546,2,PHIL JERN,,11
05/26/94,11:51:28,232547,2,ERIC MICHAELSEN,Chicago/IL,5
05/26/94,11:54:00,232548,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/26/94,12:07:02,232549,2,MIKE DEER,,5
05/26/94,15:40:54,232550,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/26/94,16:57:32,232551,2,JAMES JUDSON,,9
05/26/94,19:47:59,232552,2,RICHARD HINTON,,3
05/26/94,19:59:28,232553,2,KENNETH SPENCER,,2
05/26/94,20:46:34,232554,2,RUSSELL PARKER,,15
05/26/94,21:55:03,232555,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,2
05/26/94,23:19:12,232556,2,CRAIG ROSENBLUM,Eagan/ MN,2
05/27/94,06:54:01,232557,2,ANDREW LADANOWSKI,Ottawa,
05/27/94,09:04:02,232558,2,RANDY IMAGEN,,17
05/27/94,12:30:18,232559,2,GARY MCCOY,,1
05/27/94,14:02:06,232560,2,PAUL STREETER,,3
05/27/94,17:08:14,232561,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,
E#46658,6
05/28/94,13:54:26,232562,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
05/28/94,15:57:13,232563,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,4
05/28/94,22:50:45,232564,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1
05/29/94,13:01:08,232565,2,JOHN MONTGOMERY,MONEE/IL,
05/29/94,16:03:58,232566,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
05/29/94,21:27:18,232567,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/29/94,23:50:52,232568,2,J RAMEY,CHICAGO/IL,
05/30/94,00:33:57,232569,2,JOHN MONTGOMERY,,
05/30/94,02:32:27,232570,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46656X 05/25/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => PAUL STREETER: "R/VIRUS AGAIN"
46657 05/26/94 PAUL STREETER => WARD: "VIRUS AGAIN"
46658 05/27/94 ROY LIPSCOMB => ALL: "VOICE ON THE INTERNET"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
No msg 46656
Msg 46657 is 06 line(s) on 05/26/94 from PAUL STREETER
to WARD re: VIRUS AGAIN
I have the infected diskette in my posession. Central Point doesn't seem
to be interested. The tech support person only suggested that I get the
latest set of signatures from a bulletin board. Oh well.
However the look on the user's face when he told me he had received the
message from my detection program made it worth it.
Msg 46658 is 07 line(s) on 05/27/94 from ROY LIPSCOMB
to ALL re: VOICE ON THE INTERNET
The following file, listed recently on a local BBS, appears intriquing:
IVC10.ZIP + 326k 0 5-24-94 Internet Voice Chat - Chat
voice on IRC
Has anyone here used IVC10.ZIP to turn Internet Relay Chat (IRC) into
a telephone? (Just about a year ago, some of us CBBS'ers here
wondered about the feasibility of doing such a thing on the Internet.)
dup. chars.
>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930622.ch
+84
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@@ -0,0 +1,84 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
06/21/95 06:18:42
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232647; next msg =46666; 382 active msgs.
Prev. call 06/18/95 @ 00:51, next msg was 46663
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 2
KILLED. 16
SUMMARY. 26
06/18/95,00:54:53,232631,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
06/18/95,07:00:24,232632,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
06/18/95,09:15:51,232633,2,RON KRITZMAN,,
E#46663,4
06/18/95,17:09:40,232634,2,PETE CANTELE,,1
06/19/95,14:20:36,232635,2,CANTEEN BOY,glen ellyn. il,1
06/19/95,16:28:37,232636,2,ALEX ZELL,,
06/19/95,18:30:44,232637,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,1
06/20/95,02:53:02,232638,2,ALEX ZELL,,
06/20/95,06:52:47,232639,2,PATRICK CVENGROS,Bratislava Slovakia,
E#46664,
06/20/95,11:51:05,232640,2,BILL RING,flint,
06/20/95,12:58:17,232641,2,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,
E#46665,6
06/20/95,13:23:08,232642,2,AL RAM,flint/mi,
06/20/95,19:32:14,232643,2,KEN STOX,,1
06/20/95,21:59:54,232644,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,2
06/20/95,22:23:40,232645,2,AL HIGGINS,,8
06/21/95,02:45:47,232646,2,PATRICK CVENGROS,,13
06/21/95,06:18:45,232647,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46663 06/18/95 RON KRITZMAN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/CD-ROMS AND SMARTDRV"
46664 06/20/95 PATRICK CVENGROS => ALL: "HI !"
46665 06/20/95 DONNIE STUHLMAN => ALL: "SOFTWARE CONTRACTS"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46663 is 03 line(s) on 06/18/95 from RON KRITZMAN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/CD-ROMS AND SMARTDRV
I don't know what your autoexec looks like, but if you want smartdrive to
recognize the CD rom, you need to load the CD rom extention stuff BEFORE
you load smartdrive. Check which order they're in, in your autoexec.
Msg 46664 is 05 line(s) on 06/20/95 from PATRICK CVENGROS
to ALL re: HI !
Hi !
Nazdar
Major BBS is the best
this BBS is very bad. :-||||||||
s
Msg 46665 is 09 line(s) on 06/20/95 from DONNIE STUHLMAN
to ALL re: SOFTWARE CONTRACTS
Does anyone have (or know of a source) for a standard
software contract? I would like to know what is usual
and normal business activity for an agreement between a
vendor and end user.
Thanks for your help.
Donnie Stuhlman
ISAC
708-948 8500 ext 3201
exit/exit
dup. chars.
>Function:?k;46664
46664,05,06/20/95,PATRICK CVENGROS,ALL
HI !
bbs/CBBS/1994/930701.ch
+148
View File
@@ -0,0 +1,148 @@
PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
07/01/94 10:03:01
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232687; next msg =46672; 387 active msgs.
Prev. call 06/21/95 @ 06:18, next msg was 46666
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 4
KILLED. 16
SUMMARY. 26
06/21/95,06:18:45,232647,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46666,4
06/21/95,14:19:46,232648,2,DAVID GIBBS,,
E#46667,7
06/21/95,16:53:02,232649,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#46668,6
06/21/95,20:36:26,232650,2,HARVEY NICE,,
06/21/95,21:02:24,232651,2,HARVEY NICE,,6
06/22/95,10:54:54,232652,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1
06/22/95,12:18:01,232653,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
06/22/95,21:35:51,232654,2,RICHARD TUPPER,chicago,
E#46669,8
06/22/95,21:50:21,232655,2,NOREEN CORNFIELD,chicago,7
06/22/95,23:27:51,232656,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,
E#46670,3
06/23/95,14:31:54,232657,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1
06/23/95,17:08:56,232658,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
06/23/95,17:13:04,232659,2,ALEX ZELL,,
06/23/95,17:18:40,232660,2,ALEX ZELL,,
06/23/95,22:59:20,232661,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
06/24/95,18:16:03,232662,2,STEVE RYAN,,
06/25/95,03:35:14,232663,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,10
06/25/95,14:12:36,232664,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
06/25/95,15:54:36,232665,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,
06/25/95,20:16:35,232666,2,PATRICK GROTE,St. Louis/ MO,
06/25/95,21:39:37,232667,2,KEN STOX,,2
06/26/95,12:03:34,232668,2,STAN BROHN,,1
06/26/95,13:41:57,232669,2,PETE JONES,,1
06/29/94,08:29:24,232670,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,2
06/29/94,09:34:18,232671,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
06/29/94,15:43:50,232672,2,WILL BUNKER,dallas/tx,
E#46671,
>Help: LEAVE A MESSAGE,
06/29/94,15:50:38,232673,2,ALEX ZELL,,3
]Well, he succeeded. I wonder what help he got. Gotta try it.
ALEX ZELL,
>Help: LEAVE A MESSAGE,5
]Heh. "Type 'keywords'"
ALEX ZELL,
06/29/94,20:17:39,232674,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,0
06/29/94,20:39:44,232675,2,HARVEY NICE,,9
06/29/94,21:00:42,232676,2,JIM POLOUS,,1
06/30/94,01:36:26,232677,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
06/30/94,05:36:04,232678,2,ALEX ZELL,,
06/30/94,14:57:21,232679,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,2
06/30/94,15:15:18,232680,2,DERRICK HARRIS,Chicago/ Il,5
06/30/94,16:21:06,232681,2,DAVID GIBBS,,1
06/30/94,16:26:47,232682,2,CRAIG DOMBROWSKI,lombard/il,3
07/01/94,03:49:05,232683,2,J J,,
07/01/94,03:51:59,232684,2,J J,,
07/01/94,04:11:21,232685,2,NAZIR PASHTOON,,6
07/01/94,04:45:16,232686,2,PATRICK CVENGROS,,3
07/01/94,10:03:04,232687,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46666 06/21/95 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "PERSONAL INFORMATION MGRS"
46667 06/21/95 DAVID GIBBS => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/PERSONAL INFORMATION MGRS"
46668 06/21/95 ANDY SHAPIRO => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/PERSONAL INFORMATION MGRS"
46669 06/22/95 RICHARD TUPPER => ALL: "WINDOWS "TERMINAL"
46670 06/22/95 MARTIN SCHRADER => ALL: "EVER SEE MAIL FOR ME?"
46671 06/29/94 WILL BUNKER => SYSOP: "INTERNATIONAL ONLINE SERVICE"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46666 is 10 line(s) on 06/21/95 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: PERSONAL INFORMATION MGRS
Anyone use a "PIM" on DOS or Windows? I use ASCEND, and looked into
Lotus Organizer, which it seems we're now able to obtain from work as
part of the Lotus products the company buys.
People at work tell me Lotus Organizer isn't as good as Ascend. (Ascend
is the one from Franklin Quest, the folks who make the "notebooks" with
special pages for calendaring, etc).
I like things like being able to click on a 24-hour time line, drag a
bar out to the length of time you need to have an appointment, and it
automatically clicks over to the appointment schedule with the specified
time greyed out, for you to type in the name of the appointment.
Msg 46667 is 08 line(s) on 06/21/95 from DAVID GIBBS
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/PERSONAL INFORMATION MGRS
Ward(xmodem):
I like Organizer myself. but I don't really work in Windows enough
to warrant using it on an ongoing basis.
Best Regards!
DMGibbs
Msg 46668 is 10 line(s) on 06/21/95 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/PERSONAL INFORMATION MGRS
Ward-
I recently started using WordPerfect Office 3.1, which is (in single-use
format) a shell and some applets. The nicest one, by far, is the WP
Calendar applet, which I use as a sort of PIM (WP Notebook can be used to
do other things). The Calendar is the best of the packages I've looked
at, which admittedly, are few. It lets me track memos, appointments, andd
to-do lists. The latter I especially like, as to-do items are moved up
and reprioritized automatically. This is a DOS app. You can get a FREE
copy off the WordPerfect BBS as (I think) CL.ZIP. It's pretty cool,
takes little overhead, and works well.
Msg 46669 is 02 line(s) on 06/22/95 from RICHARD TUPPER
to ALL re: WINDOWS "TERMINAL"
Can Windows "Terminal" function receive a call as well as make one?
I try to call a friend who like me is using "Terminal" but neither of know how
Msg 46670 is 04 line(s) on 06/22/95 from MARTIN SCHRADER
to ALL re: EVER SEE MAIL FOR ME?
Anybody out there ever see mail for Atrophied Algorythms? If somebody has
gotten one of my PD utilities and wants the source I can supply it. Hmm.
B C'ing U'all.
Msg 46671 is 01 line(s) on 06/29/94 from WILL BUNKER
to SYSOP re: INTERNATIONAL ONLINE SERVICE
Hello, my name is Will Bunker and I'm working for International Online
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>Function:?
bbs/CBBS/1994/930708.ch
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
07/08/94 00:45:43
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232718; next msg =46677; 382 active msgs.
Prev. call 07/01/94 @ 10:03, next msg was 46672
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 5
KILLED. 23
SUMMARY. 25
32687,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46672,
07/01/94,10:11:36,232688,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46673,3
07/01/94,12:08:33,232689,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,1
07/01/94,22:02:26,232690,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
07/02/94,03:29:17,232691,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/02/94,18:24:51,232692,2,Y JOE,chicago il,5
07/02/94,22:19:55,232693,2,MIKE B,,
07/02/94,23:09:31,232694,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,0
07/02/94,23:42:04,232695,2,KEVIN KEYSER,,2
07/03/94,01:45:06,232696,2,PHIL SCHUMAN,,
E#46674,5
07/03/94,02:05:26,232697,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/03/94,12:05:37,232698,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
07/03/94,13:59:08,232699,2,KEN STOX,,1
07/04/94,03:13:16,232700,2,J J,,
07/04/94,12:43:15,232701,2,JON ZUILKOWSKI,attleboro/ma,7
07/05/94,10:59:12,232702,2,AAMIR SHROFF,chicago/iL 60660,
07/05/94,13:17:41,232703,2,GARY ELFRING,,
E#46675,5
07/05/94,21:16:24,232704,2,MARTIN SCHRADER,,
E#46676,0
07/05/94,22:12:24,232705,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
07/06/94,04:24:13,232706,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/06/94,07:05:48,232707,2,DENNIS STAHL,,2
07/06/94,08:55:39,232708,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
07/06/94,12:17:10,232709,2,GARY MCCOY,,2
07/06/94,15:24:33,232710,2,HARVEY NICE,,1
07/06/94,18:46:00,232711,2,MAT ULBERT,desplaines/il,4
07/06/94,18:48:36,232712,2,MAT ULBERT,,2
07/07/94,01:55:35,232713,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
07/07/94,09:15:03,232714,2,JOHN MARKLEY,Tucson/ AZ,2
]JOHN MARKLEY,
07/07/94,11:42:04,232715,2,STAN BROHN,,1
07/07/94,15:41:26,232716,2,MIKE MANKER,YUBA CITY CA.,5
07/07/94,20:49:36,232717,2,KEN STOX,,2
07/08/94,00:45:47,232718,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46672 07/01/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MARTIN SCHRADER: "R/EVER SEE MAIL FOR ME?"
46673 07/01/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => RICHARD TUPPER: "R/WINDOWS "TERMINAL"
46674 07/03/94 PHIL SCHUMAN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/CD-ROMS AND SMARTDRV"
46675 07/05/94 GARY ELFRING => WARD: "ONE BBS"
46676 07/05/94 MARTIN SCHRADER => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/EVER SEE MAIL FOR ME?"
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46672 is 02 line(s) on 07/01/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MARTIN SCHRADER re: R/EVER SEE MAIL FOR ME?
Hmm, what are "Atrophied Algorithms"? Oops, you said "Algorythms".
Music related?
Msg 46673 is 06 line(s) on 07/01/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to RICHARD TUPPER re: R/WINDOWS "TERMINAL"
Boy, I'm looking at the manual, and I sure don't see any indications
that Windows "Terminal" can RECEIVE a call. It has a box setting for
"Originate", and so on. The ONLY vague ref is that it says it could
talk to a computer in the same room via "null modem cable", but - well,
I haven't read the entire text - but it doesn't APPEAR to talk about that
any further.
Msg 46674 is 02 line(s) on 07/03/94 from PHIL SCHUMAN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/CD-ROMS AND SMARTDRV
smartdrive for 5.0 does not recognize CDrom for caching.
only the 6+ versions of DOS will do that.
Msg 46675 is 03 line(s) on 07/05/94 from GARY ELFRING
to WARD re: ONE BBS
I'm going to ONE BBS this year. I will be running the ASP booth at the
show. I was amazed that round trip air fare was only $170. The stupid hotel
costs $95 a night though.
Msg 46676 is 18 line(s) on 07/05/94 from MARTIN SCHRADER
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/EVER SEE MAIL FOR ME?
Atrophied Algorythms is a firm which I created a few years ago to do
software titles under. The original plan was to have some partners
working with me, but they all dropped out before ever becoming fully
involved. Still, I've managed to put a few titles out there, with back-
burner plans to do a bunch more.
This is the way Turbo Power Software got started, if you recall. They
published some excellent stuff to the PD that everybody picked up.
After the name got around some they started publishing commercial software
(primarily to the development market) and their success rose from that
point. Nice to see somebody make it once in a while.
The music publishing firm I have (another one-man operation) is THD
Tunes, formerly THD Tunes, Ltd. All of this stuff falls under the umbrella
of Parsec Systems, which I founded with a partner in 1978. I bought
out my buddy and own the whole money-losing mess myself now.
B C'ing U.
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bbs/CBBS/1994/940726
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PROTOCOL: ALT
CONNECT 2400
CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
07/26/94 19:32:32
Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?^U
?^U
?^U
?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
Logging name to disk...
You are caller 232812; next msg =46696; 376 active msgs.
Prev. call 07/18/94 @ 00:28, next msg was 46688
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx
"Mine" command checking for msgs TO you, ^K to abor
>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-20 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 10
KILLED. 46
SUMMARY. 25
07/18/94,00:28:04,232766,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#46688,
E#46689,
E#46690,
E#46691,
E#46692,8
07/18/94,01:31:52,232767,2,QUENTIN LEWIS,Litchfield/ NH,1
07/18/94,03:09:38,232768,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/18/94,05:42:13,232769,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2
07/18/94,11:29:19,232770,2,VINCE BISCHOFF,chicago,1
]VINCE BISCHOFF,
07/18/94,14:30:58,232771,2,STEVE AIDIKONIS,,1
07/18/94,21:10:20,232772,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
07/18/94,21:15:49,232773,2,LINDA VIEIRA,chicago il,8
]i need information on this i cant go anywhere on here. Siorry of course
you know im new here
LINDA VIEIRA,
07/18/94,22:11:20,232774,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,
E#46693,7
07/19/94,03:20:57,232775,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/19/94,12:49:08,232776,2,DAVID JOHNSON,,2
07/19/94,14:41:59,232777,2,STAN BROHN,,1
]STAN BROHN,
07/19/94,15:15:39,232778,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/19/94,22:25:38,232779,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,3
07/19/94,23:03:24,232780,2,TONY ANTONUCCI,,
07/20/94,13:10:11,232781,2,RANDY IMAGEN,,2
07/20/94,17:29:27,232782,2,GARY ELFRING,,
E#46694,
E#46695,0
07/21/94,19:59:23,232783,2,GARY ELFRING,,19
07/21/94,21:17:09,232784,2,DON ROGERS,rockford il,4
07/22/94,07:24:20,232785,2,ALEX ZELL,,13
]ALEX ZELL,
07/22/94,07:54:32,232786,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
07/22/94,10:21:54,232787,2,GARY ELFRING,,1
07/22/94,12:31:11,232788,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
07/22/94,20:58:59,232789,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
07/22/94,22:42:42,232790,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/22/94,22:52:28,232791,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/22/94,23:33:53,232792,2,MARK FRIESER,NEw York/ NY,2
07/23/94,08:27:54,232793,2,MURRAY ARNOW,,1
07/23/94,09:48:36,232794,2,KEN MCLENNAN,chicago,5
07/23/94,14:00:58,232795,2,GARY ELFRING,,5
07/23/94,16:36:40,232796,2,ANDY SHAPIRO,,1
07/23/94,17:10:51,232797,2,STEVE SMITH,chicagho,2
07/23/94,21:11:43,232798,2,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,,1
07/23/94,23:08:32,232799,2,BILL MATTSON,,0
07/24/94,01:59:10,232800,2,ALEX ZELL,,
>Help: TAIL,
07/24/94,04:18:36,232801,2,JULES L RAMEY,CHICAGO/IL,
>Help: MODE,23
07/24/94,05:01:59,232802,2,AL BERESID,,6
07/24/94,16:42:50,232803,2,BILL MATTSON,,1
07/24/94,21:53:29,232804,2,NORB DEMBINSKI,,0
07/25/94,02:42:55,232805,2,ALEX ZELL,,
07/25/94,02:57:25,232806,2,ROY LIPSCOMB,,1
07/25/94,09:20:15,232807,2,GARY ELFRING,,1
07/26/94,02:14:39,232808,2,DAVE ZOOK,Chicago/ IL,15
07/26/94,02:29:28,232809,2,DAVE ZOOK,,3
07/26/94,14:18:01,232810,2,GARY MCCOY,,1
07/26/94,17:39:08,232811,2,ED HALE,Chicago/ IL,1
07/26/94,19:32:35,232812,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
46688 07/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => NORB DEMBINSKI: "R/SCSI DEVICES"
46689 07/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => GARY ELFRING: "R/ONEBBS"
46690 07/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => RICK ROBINSON: "R/INTERVIEW"
46691 07/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "R/1 BBSCON"
46692 07/18/94 WARD CHRISTENSEN => GARY ELFRING: "MSG 46683 IS FOR YOU"
46693 07/18/94 NORB DEMBINSKI => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "SCSI DEVICES"
46694 07/20/94 GARY ELFRING => MICHAEL SHARTIAG: "ONE BBS"
46695 07/20/94 GARY ELFRING => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "ONE BBS"
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Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 46688 is 06 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to NORB DEMBINSKI re: R/SCSI DEVICES
It can be a bear hooking lots of SCSI devices. I spent 5 days getting
a CD ROM, hard disk, and DAT tape drive. Has to do with "ASPI" drivers,
that seems to tie things together.
Have you found a scanner that is SCSI? I had heard of them, but have
no experience with trying to get 'em going with other devices. I'd
suggest talking to the scanner mfgr, they should know.
Msg 46689 is 04 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to GARY ELFRING re: R/ONEBBS
Well, I got a call from Jack Rickard, "What will it take to get you
to come to One BBS Con?" and I'll have to call him back and see what
kind of an offer he's willing to make. ACTUALLY, I might be able to
stay with friends, AND the airfare is only like $110 last time I checked.
Msg 46690 is 02 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to RICK ROBINSON re: R/INTERVIEW
Your message was pretty well empty. Seems like you had a lot of line
noise.
Msg 46691 is 01 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/1 BBSCON
That's "Gary" Elfring. I'll drop him a note steering him to msg 46683.
Msg 46692 is 01 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to GARY ELFRING re: MSG 46683 IS FOR YOU
That's it. <K> this msg.
Msg 46693 is 14 line(s) on 07/18/94 from NORB DEMBINSKI
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: SCSI DEVICES
Ward:
I have a HP Scanner that has its own SCSI adapter. I had read at
one time about the reason that you could not hook up a scanner to an adapter
adapter card that has disk drives connected. I was just wondering if you
had read something similar. There was another BBS that had an inquiry
on this subject and I responded. The person is looking for more info
than I presently have on hand. I was going to try and hook up my
scanner to the SCSI adapter but quit because of waht I had read about
the device types and something that it may change with the next SCSI
specification or maybe SCSI-3. ???????
Norb Dembinski
Thanx for your help.
Msg 46694 is 03 line(s) on 07/20/94 from GARY ELFRING
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: ONE BBS
I'll be running the ASP both at the show and probably giving a couple
of the presentations at the SSS part of the show. If you are going and
don't have hotel reservations you better book quickly.
Msg 46695 is 04 line(s) on 07/20/94 from GARY ELFRING
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: ONE BBS
Last I heard ONE BBS was *paying* speakers and special guests to attend.
You should be able to get at least airfare, hotel, meals, conference
registration, plus a bit of cash. <g> I paid $172 for round trip airfare
to Atlanta.
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>Function:?r;-1
Msg 46695 is 04 line(s) on 07/20/94 from GARY ELFRING
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: ONE BBS
Last I heard ONE BBS was *paying* speakers and special guests to attend.
You should be able to get at least airfare, hotel, meals, conference
registration, plus a bit of cash. <g> I paid $172 for round trip airfare
to Atlanta.
--End of 46695
Msg #:?rep
Msg 46696
01 ?Well, huh huh, they asked "what would it take to get you here", and
02 ?we agreed upon airfare, registration, and hotel. Hmmm, I should have
03 ?gone for meals and a gratuity. ;-)
04 ?
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?s
Writing to disk.
Updating summary.
>Function:?r;*
Msg 46688 is 06 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to NORB DEMBINSKI re: R/SCSI DEVICES
It can be a bear hooking lots of SCSI devices. I spent 5 days getting
a CD ROM, hard disk, and DAT tape drive. Has to do with "ASPI" drivers,
that seems to tie things together.
Have you found a scanner that is SCSI? I had heard of them, but have
no experience with trying to get 'em going with other devices. I'd
suggest talking to the scanner mfgr, they should know..
--End of 46688
Msg #:?.
Msg 46689 is 04 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to GARY ELFRING re: R/ONEBBS
Well, I got a call from Jack Rickard, "What will it take to get you
to come to One BBS Con?" and I'll have to call him back and see what
kind of an offer he's willing to make. ACTUALLY, I might be able to
stay with friends, AND the airfare is only like $110 last time I checked.
Msg #:?.
Msg 46690 is 02 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to RICK ROBINSON re: R/INTERVIEW
Your message was pretty well empty. Seems like you had a lot of line
noise...
Msg #:?c.
++ leaving retrieve mode...
I don't understand 'C.', WARD
Type ? for list of valid commands.
>Function:?c
UPPER CASE MODE
>FUNCTION:?C
lower/upper case mode
>Function:?r
Msg #:?.
Msg 46691 is 01 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/1 BBSCON
That's "Gary" Elfring. I'll drop him a note steering him to msg 46683.
Msg #:?
07/26/94 19:36:31
Connect time 4 minutes
..Please continue, WARD
07/26/94 19:37:30
Connect time 5 minutes
.
Msg 46692 is 01 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to GARY ELFRING re: MSG 46683 IS FOR YOU
That's it. <K> this msg.
Msg #:?.
Msg 46693 is 14 line(s) on 07/18/94 from NORB DEMBINSKI
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: SCSI DEVICES
Ward:
I have a HP Scanner that has its own SCSI adapter. I had read at
one time about the reason that you could not hook up a scanner to an adapter
adapter card that has disk drives connected. I was just wondering if you
had read something similar. There was another BBS that had an inquiry
on this subject and I responded. The person is looking for more info
than I presently have on hand. I was going to try and hook up my
scanner to the SCSI adapter but quit because of waht I had read about
the device types and something that it may change with the next SCSI
specification or maybe SCSI-3. ???????
Norb Dembinski
Thanx for your help.
Msg #:?rep
Msg 46697
01 ?What I had heard about various SCSI devices on one board, was that like
02 ?to put a tape drive on the same adapter as hard drives, you
03 ?the ASPI manager. An alternative was to put the tape on its own adapter.
04 ? I don't know if SCSI-II vs SCSI-nn will make a difference, or not.
05 ?
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?e;1
Line was:
What I had heard about various SCSI devices on one board, was that like
A,C,D,E,G,H,I,L,R,S,W (or ?):?s
Writing to disk.
Updating summary.
>Function:?r;-8
Msg 46690 is 02 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to RICK ROBINSON re: R/INTERVIEW
Your message was pretty well empty. Seems like you had a lot of line
noise...
--End of 46690
Msg #:?.
Msg 46691 is 01 line(s) on 07/18/94 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to MICHAEL SHARTIAG re: R/1 BBSCON
That's "Gary" Elfring. I'll drop him a note steering him to msg 46683.
Msg #:?-5
bbs/CBBS/1994/index.gemini
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# 1994
Logs of CBBS, Circa 1994
## FILES
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930101.ch [ 242] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/01/94 20:23:56)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930108.ch [ 7708] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/08/94 10:04:57)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930110.ch [ 4026] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/10/94 02:17:39)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930113.ch [ 4261] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/14/94 00:19:40)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930119.ch [ 4099] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/19/94 22:19:09)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930127.ch [ 5174] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/27/94 23:09:19)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930130.ch [ 6565] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 01/30/94 15:27:53)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930203.ch [ 3930] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/03/94 21:04:05)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930212.ch [ 4086] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/12/94 20:10:30)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930218.ch [ 4252] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/18/94 06:59:23)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930219.ch [ 1959] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/19/94 09:18:41)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930223.ch [ 5545] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/23/94 22:11:58)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930226.ch [ 1728] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 02/26/94 06:30:00)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930302.ch [ 3940] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/02/94 21:43:55)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930306.ch [ 6356] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/06/94 23:17:04)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930311.ch [ 6255] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/11/94 06:12:05)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930314.ch [ 7019] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/14/94 22:41:38)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930324.ch [ 5718] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 03/24/94 21:21:33)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930403.ch [ 2795] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 04/03/94 01:34:51)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930407.ch [ 5018] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 04/07/94 22:53:28)
=> gemini://informis.land/textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1994/930410.ch [ 3730] Log of Activity on CBBS (CBBS(R) 4.0.3b 04/10/94 14:04:05)
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43000,nn,01/06/90,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CBBS 12TH BIRTHDAY PARTY!,NONE
Come join us! Celebrate the 12th anniversary of CBBS. Randy went "on"
to make Chinet, an excellent public-access Unix system, so chinetters will
be joining us, too.
Map to chinet / CBBS-12th-Birthday, Pizza party. Barnabies Pizza, 2832 W.
Touhy (near California) (312) 973-4550; 2:00 PM, Saturday the 17th of February
To Wis.
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(C) Copywrong 1990, Ward's Cartography.
45700,03,06/03/92,GERRY SWANSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/MANDELBROT,
I don't have VGA, my computer isn't very good and Fractint pobably wouldn't
work. I am getting a new computer though with VGA, but now I pretty much
want to do it myself. Thanks.
45701,03,06/04/92,JOHN STAPLES,MARTY DIPPEL
R/CHINET LOGIN,
Happy Birthday! I intend to try Chinet again, thanks. Is the plural
for modem modi? John and I got tired of reading publications
yesterday, so we amused ourselves by doing computer administration.
45800,11,10/15/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
PARTICIPATE!,
C'mon, folks, good old historical CBBS is back up - but we need some
message traffic to keep things going. What's pulling your chain these
days - palmtops? Deskjet 550C (The new one with simultaneous mounting
of the black & the C/Y/M cartridge, vs the 500C which "made up black"
by mixing C/Y/M). How about laptops? What do people have/do? I'm happy
with my Toshiba T1000XE - old technology - only a 10MHz 80C86, but it
does find with Kedit, Grandview, Quattro Pro, FoxBase, etc.
Anyone else interested in those 20M floptical disks? They're magnetic,
but use an optical servo for precise positioning. I think you can get
a drive for as little as $299, but the media is about $1/M ($20 ea). Tape
is obviously much cheaper, BUT it is of course not quickly random access!
45801,08,10/15/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,HARVEY NICE
THANKS!,
Thanks for the kind words on CBBS being back up again. What are you
up to these days, computer hobby wise? What new modem 'ya checkin out?
(I see it was 1200 baud...).
In case anyone didn't realize, CBBS is running a gift (from USR) HST,
which COULD have been a dual standard, except for their screwey policy
of not allowing credit cards or credit- when it was in for minor service,
they required a MONEY ORDER or CASHIER'S CHECK to have it upgraded to
the dual standard! So I said "screw it, just fix it and send it back".
45900,07,11/12/92,AL HIGGINS,WARD CHRISTENSEN
VOICE RESPONSE,DEVO
In reguards to the application yes, according to the product description
literature, this application could be handled by several of the products
I refered to. The problem is there isn't many people out there as end
users that have used those cards, nor are there many articles on the subject
So far I've found 1. Anyhow, thanks for the information. I have school
tonight, will try and get in touch with you this weekend!
Regards!
45901,15,11/13/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD
DESKJET,
Well, I went and bought one, so... It's a nice critter. It's hard to
believe that, running on 20 watts, this thing can rival the ouput of
a LaserJet that takes the juice of an air conditioner!
Also -- have you noticed? -- it prints graphics a LOT faste than the
LJ. At least with PCPaintbrush and AEASYAS! And, as you said, almost
no banding.
Have you got a setup utility for the DJ500? I haven't been able to find
one on Internet (simtel20, etc), and I thought you might have such
a beasty. If not, I'll probably just write a 4DOS BTM to do the
job. I think I want an 'envelope window' anyway (that's one nice
feature -- my old printer had a narrow carriage that wouldn't accept
envelopes, so it was always a paint...).
46000,04,01/03/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,TONY ANTONUCCI
R/TOYS,
If things go as planned, I'll have a 486 COLRO laptop at the
'fest. It will be FROM IBM so it will be running OS/2, I'm sure.
I don't know if they are going to come fully outfitted, or if I get
to install what I want...
46001,09,01/03/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
HOME DESIGN PROG?,
Is there a program that would allow me to take the plans for my
brother's home, and do some renderings of scenes from it? I have
"virtual reality studio", but this is, while interesting, a poorly-
implemented program that just won't do the job.
I'm aware that Autocad has some sort of 3D package, but I'm talking
significantly less than $1k for my budget...
I DO have Design Cad 3D, and I think that can do some things...
but not sure it could do the 256 color mode 640 x 480 stuff. Also I'd
want to be able to print on my Color DeskJet.
s application could be handled by seve
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45702,05,06/04/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/MEMORY INTERLEAVE,
OK, I get it. What machines have this feature? I don't think
I've seen it widely advertised. And of course, that brings in the question
of how to define 'wait states.' My 325s has '0' wait states set in the
setup, but I gather that it ain't necessarily so. Can you amplify
thee distinction for me? Thanks --
45802,03,10/15/92,MURRAY ARNOW,ALL
CD ROMS,
I'm interested in installing a CD ROM. I'd appreciate some input on
manufacturers, performance, and standards. Since my knowledge is very
primitive all comments are useful.
45803,05,10/15/92,ALEX ZELL,DANIEL EVANS
CHINET GUESTS,NONO
Guests on Chinet may *read* news only on weekends but not send
at any time. For complete information do "news -a" after logging
in on Chinet's guest lines, 312-283-0559. All the information is
on Chinet which now gets its feed via satellite and a little dish
on the roof.
45902,12,11/13/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/DESKJET,
No, can't say I saw it as faster than an LJ, but then again I've never worked
with an LJ. Perhaps what happens is you see output STARTING sooner. Are
you saying it is faster to COMPLETE a page?
> Utility to setup the DJ:
Well, yes and no. I went thru the book when I got my first DJ, and
used my editor to make 1-line of each font change that was supported -
then I got the idea to make a "program" out of it, which means I could type
"fs" (Font Select), cursor to a particular description (such as "Courier
6-point 20 pitch"), and press enter. This sends the set-up string to the
printer so that next application will print in that font.
However, the "program" is a custom version of my PMATE editor, so the
setup program isn't really portable.
45903,14,11/24/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DESKJET,
I mean it comes out faster{ I think this has to do with the
fact that the LJ has to wait until{all is in memory, and the{
get going and prin{ the page, whera3{ the DJ just spits it ou{.
InxD any event, faster output. No kidding. I'qve also written my own setup
program, using 4DOS's batch extensions. If you haven't used 4DOS,
you haven't lived! In any event, problem solved.
I love the DJ, though. I now have the Prestige Elite math cart in it,
and that works nicely, though I had to learn another wrinkle in PCL to
get everythingtto work! (point sizes! Since there's an inter{al
12 cpi font, you need to specify point size to differentiate).
This is a rather noisy line, so I think {'ll end here...
46003,04,01/04/93,KEN STOX,WARD
MODEM,
I'm still figuring it out, but I'm getting some interesting
results logging in with a new modem, although it could be the
modem. One connection V.22bis, next call Bell 212 with MNP/5.
Curious....
 information do "news -a" after logging
in on Chinet's guest lines, 312-283-0559. All the information is
on Chinet which now
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45704,03,06/07/92,GERRY SWANSON,ROGER PENROSE
R/QUERY ABOUT BBS'S,
I joined Temporal Insanity. I've been on for only about four days I
already have a message base. My handles Dirk Gently whats yours?
I had trouble calling the others.
45705,03,06/07/92,BILL MATTSON,ALL
32-BIT C COMPILERS,
Anybody have any experience with/own a 32-bit C compiler? Done any
significant research or reading about available products for OS2???
Interested........would like to hear from you!
45804,06,10/15/92,BOB SULLIVAN,ALL
LIMITING SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS,OGEN
This month's Scientific America carries an article about limiting
software applications in some situations because of the
possiblity of bugs. The mathematical proof of the impossible
situation of eliminating all bugs other than by trial and
error was proved earlier this century by Godel. I hope this is
of interest to some.
45805,01,10/16/92,BILL CLOHERTY,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/CRC-32 (CCITT),
PKZIP. The fast algorithm is known but not the slow algorithm.
45904,14,11/24/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CBBS DOWN & BACK UP,NONE
Well, sorry for our un-reliability again! This time the HST power supply
died, and CBBS was too specific to that modem to work with others.
We're now on a Practical Peripherals 2400, with MNP capability, but it
does not seem to be going MNP.
Randy sez that CBBS should be "generic" so any modem can be hung on it -
i.e. he'll init the modem with a terminal or terminal program, then CBBS
should just "connect". I think the default must not be MNP. He'll check
further, and I'll do what programming is necessary.
CBBS has to at least hang in there long enough to get ot its 15th
anniversary celebration next February! Lets see, Saturday the 13th
of Feb should be the Sat closest to the 16th if I guestimated right...
for Pizza at Barnaby's on Touhy near California, 2:00 PM. (but call back
for particulars in early Feb).
Thanks for calling CBBS - we enjoy having you.
45905,08,11/24/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
MODEM SIGNALS,
Curious about something - our modem drivers for sending chars checked
if the transmit holding register was empty, then looped making sure clear
to send and data set ready were there, then send the char. When the HST
modem died, (power supply problems) and we tried other modems, they would
"hang". Is it normal these days for modems to not assert these signals?
Thanks!
P.S. a change in the drivers to ignore CTS/DSR was what got it going
again...
46004,05,01/04/93,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,BENJAMIN COHEN
R/LASERJET 4M,
Around Thanksgiving time there were NO IV-M's to be found anywhere. They
have begun to ship units now, but they seem to be moving slowly.
Distributors seem to be getting several at a time. Eventually supply
will catch up, but it seems that with the 'hold' demand grew while the
printers were waiting for the upgrade.
46005,07,01/04/93,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,ALL
HEARD OF ASC SYSTEMS,
I came across an XT box that consists of 5 mono cards and 256K on the
motherboard. There are 3 ROMS (1 is BIOS)
There also is a DTMF decoder card with 5 RJ-11 jacks in. When
booting up each screen says SCREEN(1-5) depending on the card. I have
not been able to find the company, ASC Systems to find out if this thing
does anything useful. ANy info would be appreciated.
ity, but it
does not seem to be going MNP.
Randy sez that CBBS should be "generic" so any modem can be hung
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45706,04,06/07/92,ROBERT FULTON,ALL
SITUATION WANTED,
Any lines on a job for an engineer/engineering manager with ten years'
data-comm experience would be appreciated.
Please reply to me here....THANKS,
Robert Fulton
45707,09,06/07/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL MATTSON
R/32-BIT C COMPILERS,
I demonstrated the IBM C-set/2 Workframe at the PS/2-OS/2 forum a few
weeks ago - looks like a pretty respectable product. The thing is only
$295 from 1-800-3-IBMOS2 (soft-copy documentation only). The many sample
programs included in the toolkit are valuable - how to do multi-threading,
how to integrate 16-bit and 32-bit applications (speaking if which, the
internal call to call from 32-bit to 16-bit is called "THUNK").
I don't know of any others. I've heard of only one problem with the
C-set, which had a disappointing "working as designed" answer instead of
a fix.
45806,10,10/17/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MURRAY ARNOW
R/CD ROMS,
This isn't going to be all that practical an answer, but I'll mention
a few things:
1. you might want to consider whether you want to use a SCSI adapter for
other things, too - such as hard drive, or whether a dedicated CD-only
adapter will do the job;
2. Consider whether audio is necessary; whether you need internal or
external; whether it needs to work under OS/2; whether you're going to
use it with multi-media applications (may require a relatively fast drive)
or just with "software"...
A few things to think about, anyway.
45807,01,10/17/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BOB SULLIVAN
R/LIMITING SOFTWARE APPLICATIO,
When did your Sci Am arrive? Mine hasn't shown up yet.
45906,27,11/25/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN
REPLIES RE: CBBS,
Ya, CBBS has been "sick" for a week or so - bad modem, finally changed
software to be more "generic" and allow other modems to work - but now
we seem to have lost MNP (error correction).
How old were we? Not sure of the relevance of that! But "about" 33.
Why create CBBS? Well, there's a long story, but the short one was
(1) that I had an extra computer (I'd been doing some talks and bought one
to take with me); (2) Hayes had come up with the computer-controllable
internal modem; (3) I had a phone line - for club recordings about next
meeting, etc; (4) there was this terrible snow storm on Jan 16, 1978,
that kept me from going to work, so Randy and I got together by phone and
dreamed up the idea. I thought of it being for the club, Randy said that
just we two should do it - "committee" projects just don't go anywhere.
So we just did it. I patterned the software after the "cork board and
push-pins type of bulletin board", and coined the term "BBS" for it.
The future of BBSs? more specialized, more commercial, more lines,
but also a lot of people just getting into it for the fun of it. Multi-
media, graphics (talked to a guy with A HUNDRED SEVENTY THOUSAND graphic
images online, today - over TWENTY GIGS of disk...).
Roll of BBSs in mass media? Well, there will be limited exposure -
things like library BBSs or perhaps a city's or village's council BBS
or something - but still not something of general appeal - just not
a high enough percentage of people with modems yet.
Sorry you had trouble uploading your comment. HEY, in the future,
how about putting them in a MESSAGE instead of only-I-can-see-'em
comments? (Well, some assistant operators can also see 'em).
Where are you doing this article for? Pardon if you already said, and
I've forgotten.
45907,05,11/28/92,ROSEMARY MCGUIRE,SYSOP
CHINET BBS,TESS
e
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the hang of this system. Am investigating for article for cgo comp soc.
Can you somehow leave me any info? or call 312-951-5606 & tell me? All
I get when I dial it is gibberish....nothing else. Thanx.
46007,07,01/06/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
POCKET MEMOS,
I have a Sharp 5200, which I'm very pleased with, but which is full.
I understand that TODAY, Sharp came out with a YO-610, which is like
an 8600, minus the card slot, minus some function - expense, I think.
It is 128K. THE BIG NEWS IS THAT it is as small as the 5200! (Well,
4mm bigger in one direction, 5mm in another).
Curious what pocket memos others have, and if you have a PC (or MAC,
etc) link. I have the PC link for my 5200.
t
meeting, etc; (4) there was this
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45708,03,06/07/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROBERT FULTON
R/SITUATION WANTED,
Sorry to hear you're looking! Is USR suffering from the general
worsening of the economy? (My office is working to get down 22% by
the end of the year!)
45709,07,06/07/92,ROBERT FULTON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/SITUATION WANTED,
Ward,
No, USR is doing well, but a management reorganization has left me
redundant. There seems to be a management reverse corollary to the Not
Invented Here syndrome, which says that training in a company is not
applicable when the company reaches a different status....
I still really like USR, and would recommend anyone to work there, it's
just not a great place for me any more...
45808,11,10/17/92,CYRUS PATEL,ALL
TAPE BACKUP,OPRF
I'm looking for an external tape backup for my PC's (8088 through 80486's)
and I was looking at the CMS (Colorado Memory Systems) Jumbo Trakker (sp?)
250 meg tape backup unit. That's the one that connects through the
parallel port on the PC, and was wondering if anyone has any experience
with one. I also understand that Irwin makes one (I believe that
Elek-Tec sells it).
I am looking at the externals with the parallel port connection, cuz,
I don't want to have to buy extra boards or hook it up to the
floppy/hard drive cable... Are there any other's available out there?
Any info would be appreciated...
45809,24,10/18/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,ALL
PRINTER SHARING,
OK, Ward, here's some traffice for you:
I work in a small academic department, out here in the Eastern Wastelands.
Recently, a new department member was moved to a tenure track position,
and, as part of the package, was given a nice new PC (his pick -- he got
a 33MHz 386DX). Everyone else in the office cheered, because they figgered
this meant that Mr. X would no longer hog the Zenith 386sx that's driving
the local HP LaserJet III. But nooooooooooooo. He put an ancient 8086
in his office, moved the PC to HOME, and now sits on the Zenith as before,
because it's more convenient (his term).
SO. I need to come up with a CHEAP way to share that printer out. He
hardly ever prints on it, so it won't bother him, but there are six of
us who need access fairly regularly (seven, if we count the Zenith).
The printer is no more than 50' away from any of the PCs in question.
What's the best CHEAP way to do this? Speed is a little bit of a
question, but printer buffers are cheap, and they could sit in between
the sharing unit and the PCs without much trouble. The main thing is to
make this CHEAP (again) and TRANSPARENT (ideally, no software should be
involved -- just a box hanging off the parallel port.
SO -- short of doing in Mr. X, what's the best way to deal with this
problem? (The department has ruled out doing him in as too expensive).
45908,07,11/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROSEMARY MCGUIRE
R/CHINET BBS,
What number were you dialing? I think the guest line is
(312) 283-0559, but not sure. If it isn't the guest line, then
it should tell you what one is the guest line.
As to the "gibberish", it could be it isn't at your speed - you have
to send a BREAK to get many Unix systems to change baud rates. It is
old technology, but saves having to write a custom module for each
different modem that is peculiar in some way.
45909,19,11/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN
REPLY RE: CBBS,
FIrst, please stop using the comments for messages to me! Make 'em
public! And don't forget to wait a bit before each line when uploading...
> When I mentioned CBBS was for a "club",
No, I mentioned that I THOUGHT that would be a good use - for CACHE,
the Chicago Area Computer Hobbyist's Exchange. Randy suggested that doing
it with the club would be by "committee" and would take too long and maybe
never get done, so we just did it on our own.
> How about in the future when most people will have modems (Won't they)?
I'm sorry, but I guess working in the big city, I come to think of
street people, and people in housing projects, as "people", and don't feel
the "modem revolution" will touch these people.
Actually, I'll just have to ask: what IS "Mass Media"? Do you mean
things like TV, newspapers, etc? I don't see BBSs as "mass media". They
aren't "delivered" like TV or newepaper - you have to "go out and do it",
and have to for example tie up your phone line for a while while doing so.
Perhaps it WOULD become mass media if say some apartment complex were to
install keyboards and video monitors in every apartment, linked to a central
BBS, that was linked to other apartment owners "or something". But until
such time, I don't feel it will go toward "mass media".
46008,07,01/06/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
There's a program that logs the use of programs on your computer, recording
the date, time, and length of use for each invocation of a program. I
don't recall the name of this logging program--maybe something like "LOG"
or "HISTORY." Sorting the log produced by such a program after a month
or two of usage should give you a pretty decent culling of the sheep from
the goats. Did you consider and reject such an "automated" approach to
disk cleanup?
46009,07,01/06/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD
R/CBBS 15TH *PARTY*,
Are you attempting to contact people on that membership list? What
do you think of contacting the current CACHE board and seeing if they
would assist in contacting old members? How about some of the callers
here volunteering to contact members they are still in touch with,
and leaving a message here so others won't have to contact them? Etc.
You may wish to coordinate (rather than perform) the task of contacting
old timers; I--and I'm sure others--will be glad to help.
t doing
it with the club would be by "committee" and would take too long and maybe
never get done, so we just did it on ou
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45710,05,09/12/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,ALL
HP PAINTJET XL300 PS,FROG
Anyone have any comments as to how the HP PaintJet XL300 with
Postscript performs, on reliability, and $$ value is. The images that
are printed are they better than the PCL5C mode?
Norb Dembinski
45711,08,09/12/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,ALL
MUSTANG II PS BOARD,FROG
Anyone used the Mustang II postscript board for the HP LJ III
printer? The board has 4Meg of memory and allows postscript file output
to be printed by the HP LJ III. The board also allows another PC to be
connected to the printer using the existing parallel port. The board
is able to switch from PCL5C and postscript automatically. Any and
all comments are welcome.
Norb Dembinski
45810,01,10/18/92,ERIC BOHLMAN,WARD
SPEED,
9600 is working fine for me here.
45811,10,10/18/92,ERIC BOHLMAN,ANDY SHAPIRO
PRINTER SHARING,
How about an A/B switch box (manual) at the printer, and a cable booster
on Mr. X's machine if it's more than 15 feet or so from the printer. Ideally,
locate the switch box at the printer, not at Mr. X's desk.
If you go to an auto-switching unit, you may have some hassles you haven't
anticipated, like either having different people's outputs interleaved,
or else long timeouts to prevent that. You don't want hassles like A
downloading some soft fonts, printing a document, B then downloading his
soft fonts and printing, then A coming back and printing on the assumption
that his soft fonts are still there.
45910,18,11/29/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/REPLY RE: CBBS,
Hmm, I guess I'm creating a chain here...Ward's right. It'll be a LONG
time before most pople have terminals/computers/modems at home. Some
of us (with income) are fortunate, but many people with access to
computers (i.e., $) are still up a crick because they don't know what
to do if it ain't on the menu. I was lucky. Back in '84 I got to be
elected computer person at the American Bar Foundation because (1) I
used to be a ham operator, and everyone though that==hacker in those
days, and (2) I had bought a Kaypro 2 in hopes of gettig some writing
done. I was lucky enough to be given a copy of MDM7xxx that had the
CBBS number in the dialing directory, and I've been a faithful
follower of CBBS for about 8 years now. BUT. Most people don't
feel comfortable with mahines, BBSs, etc. It's funny -- everyone will
tell you that driving a car is easy; everyone tells you the opposite about
computers. Yet the latter are in many ways easier (and less risky to
master). So -- even among the well-endowed, there's a long way to go.
If you're on the street, or make less than $15,000 a year (like many
people) you're probably out of it. Heck, a good number of the people I
know here in upstate NY don't even have PHONES, let alone modems!!
45911,04,11/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN
SEE MSG 45910,
I think that msg (45910) was intended for you. He replied to ME,
but I was replying to YOUR note in the COMMENTS - users can't "reply
to a comment" only to a msg....
<K this, please>
46010,17,01/06/93,DAVID GIBBS,ALL
PROBLEMS WITH PKZIP 2.04C,
The new PKzip/unzip is indeed real, but it has at least 3 identified problems:
1) QDPMI.SYS v1.00, the Quarterdeck DOS Protected Mode Interface, will not get
along with either pkzip or pkunzip. This can be worked around with a SET
PKUNZIP=-) and a statement in the file PKZIP.CFG that reads DPMI=disable. If
you do NOT do this, both PKzip and PKunzip will reboot your system!
2) PKZip 2.04c will allocate a 16k UMB and will NOT give it back when it is
done executing. This is especially troublesome for those who process outside
DESQview and then start the bbs, or those who do not use DESQview. The UMB is
allocated in the middle of the largest available continous block.
3) Related to 2), the statement XMS=disable or XMS=off is completely ignored,
so that cannot be used to work around it, and can also cause other problems.
The commandline switch -- does work, but not every program that calls PKzip can
have the commandline configured.
46011,06,01/07/93,KEN STOX,WARD CHRISTENSEN
MODEM,
I just got this new modem, a PPI14400, and it does seem to have
problems connecting to some modems. What type of modem is CBBS
running on these days, a USR maybe ? That seems to be the most
difficult for the PPI to connect to, but I really don't have
enought data yet to come to any "real" conclusions. If I'm able
to come to some answers that may be of use, I'll pass them on.

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45712,04,09/12/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,ALL
MODEM PURCHASE,FROG
Anyone know were I can get a good deal on the latest models of the
US Robotics Dual Standard modes cheap?
Norb Dembinski
45713,06,09/12/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,ALL
TELEBIT QBLAZER MODEM,FROG
Anyone have any comments as to the Telebit QBlazer modem? Mainly
as to how the modem performs, reliability, and value. Telebit has a
direct marketing program on and is asking $299.00 for the . The
modem is V.32 compliant, etc.
Norb Dembinski
45812,06,10/18/92,MURRAY ARNOW,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/CD ROMS,
The major reason for my interest in CD ROMs is that it appears that they
are going to become a mode (maybe dominant) of software distribution.
Borland is now offering their software on CD ROM. My concern for the
moment is what will become the standard format. Can CD players read
different formats through software changes, or will the formats be
integrated into the hardware?
45813,05,10/18/92,BILL MATTSON,ALL
OS2 BETA TESTERS,
Any OS2 32-Bit Graphics Engine beta testers out there? I'm one. Are you
one, too? If you are...'fess up, and we can trade lies and share the
thrills of reformatting large disk volumes for the sake of the jolly
blue giant, and personal curiosity, too, of course. Or, if you're not,
I'll still talk (sic) to you, anyhow.
45912,04,11/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,JEAN BARBER
HOWDY!,
Long time no see! You still active in CACHE? I keep getting msgs
encouraging me to go, but just not enough time, and a bit too far away.
(I've settled on the club, (APCU) that meets at the U of Chicago,
as that is more "down in my area".
45913,06,11/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,LARRY GLASSMAN
AUTHOR?,
See you were looking for the keyword "Author" and "Authors" in the
help text. What were you looking for? Who wrote CBBS? I did. It is
kind of - no - VERY - ancient. Sort of a look into history.
What 'you up to? See 'ya call now and then - would appreciate all
the ACTIVE participation on various PC, language, hardware, etc related
topics. Trying to keep CBBS "Viable".
46013,04,01/08/93,KEN STOX,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/MODEM,
Hey (( light bulb lights )), I got an idea. I noticed the other day
on USENET that AT&T Paradyne was running a "sysop" program. I
wonder if they woudl be "interested" in "donating" a new modem to
the world's first BBS??
nly
as to how the modem performs, reliability, and value.
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45714,14,09/12/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CBBS BACK UP,
Thanks to Randy being willing to support the "old beast", CBBS is back
up. Norb Dembinski even beat me in on the first call - minutes after
CBBS went on the phone line!
Please pass the word about CBBS(*). I know, it is old, but it like a ride
thru history, and I AM working on re-writing it in a way that can still
be compatible with the "old interface" - perhaps message threading is
the most important.
(*) meaning, I'd appreciate it if you sent a note to your favorite
BBS saying something like "CBBS/Chicago, the worlds first, is back online
after an outage since June. If you want to see a bit of history, call
(312) 545-8086. HST to 9600. Operator Ward Christensen"
(or something like that).
Thanks! AND, please call CBBS - lets see if a bit of history can still
live in this day and age.
45814,06,10/19/92,DENNIS STAHL,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DATA ON FM SUBCARRIER?,
Data was (is ?) available on some FM subcarriers. About two years ago
financial market information was transmitted to handheld units. The cost
of the service was in the 200 to 1000 dollar/month range. I believe Lotus
even sold a "board" for the PC bus to receive the data and software to
get it into the spreadsheet. Believe it even ran in background.
... about all I recall.
45914,09,11/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CBBS 15TH ANNIVERSARY,
Mark your calendars - Saturday the 13th of Feb '93. CBBS & Chinet
will have a pizza-fest, probably again at Barnaby's, Touhy and California,
2:00 PM. BUT watch for a more "final" message, probably posted in mid-Jan
or perhaps late Jan.
P.S. these have become "bring your toys" kind of get-togethers. Last
year, we had a remote control blimp, a hover-craft, a laser, home-made
chain-mail (medieval armor), a great "suction cup dart gun" but made
from PVC that shot a toilet plunger, etc. If you can't afford the pizza,
come anyway, someone will buy for you.
45915,15,11/30/92,LARRY GLASSMAN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
AUTHORS AND HISTORY,ASDF
I was actually searching for the number of Chinet. I was calling in
from another system that did not have my dialing directory.
What have I been upto. Unix lately. Quite a bit of work out there
doing X-windows and client/server SQL. Keeps me pretty busy.
Calling in now and then? I've pretty much been calling in since you
started the system 'lo these many years ago!
If I remember, you`ve been using your PC for audio/midi. I am going
to pick up an audio card for my PC this week. I have been looking at
the Sound Blaster Pro, and another card from MediaVision. Anybody have
any experience with either of these cards?
Audio technology has reached an interesting point on PC's. I was over
at a friends house this weekend and saw an INCREDIBLE demonstration of
sound in a Shareware program, Castle Wolfensteif 3/D. Convinced me to
run out and get a board.
Nice to hear from you Ward!
46014,06,01/09/93,DAVID JOHNSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
DISK CLEANUP,
Don't know if this is along the lines of what you're looking for, but
there's a program called PC-MANAGE (I believe it was put out by PC-Magazine
or such), that will PKZIP files that haven't been used after a specified
time automatically. When a file is called that has been zipped, it will
be automatically uncompressed. I haven't seen it around lately, but I do
have a copy of it somewhere and can dig it up if you're interested.
46015,02,01/10/93,TOM DEBOTH,ALL
NEW REAL ESTATE BBS,
new real estate bbs call 708-834-1450
on-line pictures of homes for sale,hud listings,hundreds of homes in a data
y posted in mid-Jan
or perhaps late Jan.
P.S. these h
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45716,05,09/13/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
COLORADO TAPE DRIVES,
Anyone have experience with these drives? Specifically, I went from
a 120 to a 250, and I'm getting way too many errors on the 250M tapes-
on the order of 300, to as many as 1400. I just bought a new 3M 2120
tape, and will format it to see how it does.
Thanks for any ideas.
45717,04,09/13/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL MATTSON
32-BIT DEVELOPMENT,
I have now sent off my order for the IBM workframe and Cset/2
compiler. Got the books - WHEW! 47 pounds! Actually a friend (Mike
Warot) liked 'em so well he bought 'em off of me and I ordered another
set of 'em.
45816,30,10/20/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,GAYLAND BLOETHE
CBBS,
No, heh heh, no multi-tasking here. Curious what you observed that made
you think that...
Scrolling too fast? I thoughts about that have to do with comm packages:
most have a capture buffer with scroll-back capability - for example I
receive my entire CBBS "session" then scroll back to see what people
said - I can scroll back even when entering a msg (like now).
The lack of screen pauses are to encourage quick reading - perhaps even
capturing and calling back...
Nevertheless, while I don't like the stop-every-screen idea (control-S
works very nicely - at least if I'm in that mode I'd rat er it stop when
I want it to, instead of stopping in the middle of a sentence, etc),
THERE ARE SOME SOLUTIONS:
-- If you want to read every msg since you last called, use the r command
and give a msg * which will read the first new msg since your last call.
Only one message. Many/most will fit on one screen, or you can ^S to stop
to read. Once the header has scrolled by, if you want to skip it, hit ^C.
Then when you want to read the next msg, just type "." - "." goes ahead
one message, "," goes back one. If you have one you want to reply to,
type REPLY instead of . or , - that's. it.
-- If you'd rather flag messages, just hit enter at any time, and CBBS
will ask you for "msg # or #;#;#" and you can type in the msg # you want
to retrieve, or several msg #'s separated by semicolons; and you don't have
to repeat the leading digits: 45816;7;21 would get 45816, 45817, 45821.
When CBBS says "A pause to flag last message" you can hit enter, and CBBS
will ask for this list of msg #'s, and you can sit as long as you want
(Well, CBBS will bug you in a minute or two to please go on) and type the
msg #'s.
The main thing that is missing is the ability to continue reading the
next message after using the REPLY command.
Hope this helps! Thanks for your comments.
45916,12,11/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,LARRY GLASSMAN
R/AUTHORS AND HISTORY,
Wow! Small world! I'm doing X-windows programming, too! Though
"not really" - there are some more experienced people than I, so I'm
just doing more routine "C" and they're doing the X-menus, etc.
Audio cards: I'm interested to know if one can record real-time stereo
to hard disk, and could edit out the "pops" inherent in my old vinyl discs.
(grin).
Wolfenstein: I bought it, but I don't have a sound board. It is really
nice, eh? The program is pretty nice.
Nice hearin' from you. When I said you "call in now and then", I didn't
mean "infrequently".
I guess I was more thinking of the few and far-between msgs from you ;-)
P.S. what Unix systems are you on? I'm on an IBM Risc System 6000.
45917,05,11/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
CACHE,
Were you in CACHE way back when? Think there would be an interest
in getting some of the "old timers" together for a 15th year CACHE
reunion? Actually, maybe I should consolidate CBBS's 15th anniversary
party (Barnaby's on Touhy, 2:00 PM, Sat Feb 13) with a CACHE reunion!
Hope you can join us.
46016,03,01/11/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,DAVID JOHNSON
R/DISK CLEANUP,
Any idea what the TSR overhead is - and how they keep track of the last
usage date of a file?
Thanks!
46017,07,01/11/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,KEN STOX
R/MODEM,
hehe, could be! Actually I have an HST that is merely in need of having
the power cord fixed, it shouldn't be that big a job. I think they use
a standard DIN, so I can "finish the Chop Job Randy started" and cut the
cord completely and see what wires go where - even with one loose wire,
4 should be OK and 1 not, so I can figure what goes where. I'll make
a note to at least put that on my to-do list! Actually, a V-32 would
be nice, too!
 on) and
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45618,04,04/24/92,BILL WOLFF,ALL
QDOS & XTREE,
Does anybody use utilities like QDOS v2.0 and Xtree v2.0 anymore, or
am I not moving with the times fast enough and they have better
directory and subdirectory utilities out there? What are the latest
versions of QDOS and Xtree anyway?
45619,14,04/24/92,AL HIGGINS,BILL MATTSON
R/OS2 UTILITIES,
continued to look into the issue of defrag.
of the disk. In my case, our applications were written in FAT
file format. We've talked to Norton twice this week and it
looks like we can use Norton 6.0 as long as we boot DOS, run
Norton use the utili and then boot to OS2.
If this works.... this will solve my biggest problem disk
defragmentation... As for other Norton utilities, I don't
k on OS2.k on
If I can get a spare system, or clean up the hard disk, I
will try to add DOS in PM and see if I can go from OS2 to DOS
and run norton. The problem I have had in the past is our
application requires that we have DOSSWAP OFF. Looks as if
I'll have to play for a while and see what we can get to
work or not work....
45718,04,09/13/92,BILL MATTSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/32-BIT DEVELOPMENT,
Ward, Ill let you know when I get my
Workset/2. I guess now that you've got me curious, I'll have to
weigh it when it gets here...and I thought MSC++7.0 & the SDK was a lot
of docs. (I'm working my way back up to long message lines (:-}...) Bye
45719,01,09/14/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,RANDY SUESS
THANKS,
Thanks for resuscitating the world's first!
45818,10,10/20/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/PRINTER SHARING,
Randy Suess recommends the Buffalo printer-sharing box. He uses one at
home to share a laserjet between several machines - even though he also has
a Novell Netware LAN. I believe the thing could handle a combo of serial
and parallel, with - I think - each port being either in or out - rather
flexible. I don't think it cost all that much. You MIGHT have to switch
to serial with its better distance capability. I found by putting a "Y"
cable on my printer port, one going to lap-link to my lap-top, the other
to a switch box and on to the printer, so the printer is "cut out" of the
picture when I lap-link, well, it doesn't work, I have to UNPLUG the
cable to the printer (even though it was NOT attached to the printer).
45819,04,10/20/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MURRAY ARNOW
R/CD ROMS,
Oh, the CD-ROM formats are all standard - MSCDEX is the Microsoft
CD Rom Extensions that everyone writes to. I've not seen one that doesn't
follow that. It allows the drive to just be another drive letter, so you
can run programs right off the CD, copy files from it, etc.
45918,11,12/01/92,LARRY GLASSMAN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
UNIX WORKSTATIONS AND SOUND,ASDF
What flavor of X-windows are you working with? If I remember correctly
RS-6000's use Motif. I've done alot of work using OpenLook, although this
project is using IXI/Motif for the GUI.
Have you done any work with the Interface Builders for X ?
I'm currently working on Sun Workstations, using a SPARC IPX. I've also
done some work on NeXT machines recently.
I'll let you know about the sound card as soon as I get it. Should be
towards the end of this week. It would be nice to store old vinyl discs
on my computer, but they have to first come up with a compression system.
Audio files still seem to take up alot of space.
I'm already looking forward to the pizza party!
45919,07,12/01/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,WARD CHRISTENSEN
CACHE..,
Ward,
Yep!!! I remember going to the gas company on was it SHrmer
road ??? I think I may even be able to dig up a couple of old
newsletters if anyone would be interested.. ( I think I saw a small file
of CACHE stuff when I moved)?
As for the re-union, I think it sounds great. I already
marked it in my book.
46018,05,01/11/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/CBBS 15TH *PARTY*,
I have already contacted a cache member to tell them about the 15th
anniversary. I DO have a mailing list. I should get going on it!
Should I upload a VERY large message with all the names? I'm not
going to put the phone #'s in a public message...out of courtesy to
folks - and of course in 15 years probably about 70% of folks have moved.
46019,05,01/11/93,DAVID JOHNSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DISK CLEANUP,
Off hand, I don't remember what the overhead is, but I believe it's
fairly small. As for the date checking, I'll have to dig up the archive
and check both that and the overhead. Will get to it quickly and post
the answers next time I logon.
You're quite welcome!

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45620,02,04/24/92,BILL WOLFF,ALL
DEBUG,
Does anybody know what the command set for DEBUG is for MS-DOS? If
your going to ask what version of MS-DOS, I'll say 3.21.
45621,15,04/26/92,ALEX ZELL,ERIC BOHLMAN
COPH,NONO
The following is part of a note I have received from a friend in
New York. I recall that you wrote just such a program for Hadley
School, must be at least 7 or 8 years ago.
] A friend, Marie Kessel, has developed a problem with vision. She
] wants to make her computer talk to her. Can anyone suggest good
] software?
] Marie runs halfway houses; one of the problems that comes up is
] dyslexia. She feels that a talking computer could be useful there
] also.
] Her home computer is Macintosh, but the halfway houses are using
] IBM machines. Software for either platform would be interesting.
BTW, I have lost track of COPH bbs since its move to the southwest side.
Is it still in operation?
45820,14,10/20/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL MATTSON
R/OS2 BETA TESTERS,
Mike Warot just got one, and he calls here occasionally (mebbe better
to drop him a line on the Ward Board). I have attempted to download it
at work, trying to make a "copying machine" - but it filled the hard disk,
darn it! The distribution diskettes are already compressed (like, but
perhaps not exactly, as if they contained only ZIP files), so they don't
compress.
I have the C-set/2 and plan to work on that; I'm not interested in the
idea of a total reformat of my disk for the new version - wondering how
I'd integrate my current OS/2 functions, restore the desktop, etc.
I DO wish they'd say just what it conflicts with - I was told that
you couldn't install previous beta tests over old OS/2, but did so AFTER
zapping all files and cleaning up all the extended attribute pointers
with Norton Utilities (wrote my own DOS program to SHOW which files have
extended attr pointers).
45821,04,10/20/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
4079 PRINTER,
Do you have any info as to when the 4079 color printer will be
available or any paper info on same?
Norb Dembinski
45920,18,12/02/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/CACHE..,
OK, got to figure some way to get folks aware of it - I think I'll find
a listing - lets see, should be '77 to be 15 years ago - or mebbe just about
anyone who wants to come, from then or more recent.
As to your questions about line noise, no, sorry, I'm not in that area,
I'm 30 miles south of CBBS.
What I did one day when I had that problem, was to talk to Randy Suess,
and we got the little clicks on our voice line, so I just left the phone
off the hook while going to another phone line to call the phone company.
Actually, I'd arranged it in advance - i.e. said I had a problem, they
said to call back if I ever isolated it. Well, I did, and they took a
while, but traced it down to a faulty multiplexor and took it out of
service pending repair.
Dunno if Randy's gotten this modem changed over, but it seems it wasn't
going MNP. And tonight when I called at 2400, I got garbage then a
disconnect, then noticed it said "connect 1200". Hmmm. I KNOW I set the
speed to 2400 when I do the ATA. Anyway, I switched to 1200, called back,
and got in.
Hopefully I'll have time to get the HST repaired, then we can go MNP again.
45921,10,12/02/92,ERIC BOHLMAN,WARD
MODEM SIGNALS,
Actually, CTS has become more important than ever, since it's how a modem
tells the computer "hold on and let me catch my breath" when you're running
the computer-to-modem link faster than the modem-to-modem link. I've never
met a modem that didn't use DSR, though I've also never met one that used it
for anything other than to inform the computer that the modem was powered up.
It's possible that some DIP-switch or NVRAM setting was causing the modem
not to generate those signals (I've explained to people more times than I
care to remember why it's necessary to configure a modem to have DCD follow
the state of the connection, rather than stay on all the time, in order to
use most terminal programs' dialing directories).
46020,10,01/12/93,AL HIGGINS,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/HEARD OF ASC SYSTEMS,
I haven't heard of that particular company, but it sounds like you may have
a multi-line voice response unit. There were a lot of companies that
developed that type of technology in the 80's and a good majority of them
are no longer in business. Tahe a look at the boards with the RJ11
connectors and see if there is a vendor name, ie.. Dialogic, Periphonics,
If your really intrested in finding out who made the system, find a library
that carries: Speech Technology, Inbound/Outbound (now called Call Center
Manager). These magazines normally list MFGs who mave voice type cards
for PCs and other products. Suggest you go back 3-5 yrs and start from
there. Good Luck....
46021,10,01/13/93,DAVID JOHNSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DISK CLEANUP,
I found the file for PCMANAGE. As for the TSR overhead, I don't know
what it is specifically, but the program that is loaded as a TSR is about
28k. The way the program keeps track of the last access date of the files
is by creating a file in each directory called INDEX.CMP. The program
can handle 100 directories/files per directory/and child directories,
and allows you to specify any files (up to 100) that you don't want to
be touched by the program (config.sys, command.com, etc). It also
notes that you shouldn't compress any OS/2 files (system ones, I believe).
The archive is fairly small, about 36k zipped. I'll upload it to your
directory on Chinet.

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45622,14,04/26/92,BILL WOLFF,ALEX ZELL
R/COPH,
Well I realize this is the wrong computer platform, but the following
information can be of some good for someone. I know that a Commodore
64 has a number of cards that allows your computer to talk. One even
allows your computer to listen too. In fact, the card manufacturer is
called: Hearsay, Inc; 1825 74th Street; NY, NY 11204; and they made
IBM version too. I am not sure if they did for the MAC or not.
Now I know that there are some educational programs that work very
well with the above mentioned cards on the C64. There is also an
excellent word processor that even talks called "The Write Stuff" and
works without any extra hardware. Also there is a communications
program called SAMTERM, but it is really slow. You even had to hit
CTRL-S once in awhile even at 300 baud, so the term could keep up
with the BBS.
45623,05,04/26/92,RICHARD HINTON,ALL
4 MEG DRAM'S?,
I just read an article in the Economist about the newest type
of memory invented in Japan an captilized in the US, called
flash memory. But the article memtioned that a 4 meg by 1 bit
DRAM chip goes for about $15 each. I have 1 meg by 1 bit DRAM
chips, but can't find the 4 meggers? Anyone see the 4 meg DRAMS?
45723,07,09/14/92,GEORGE LIMBERG,ALL
MNP TECHNICAL DATA,ASDF
I am researching a technical paper on MNP modem protocols. I have some basic
data on the overview of each of the 10 levels, but need to get to the next l
level of technical details for this paper. Does anyone know where I may find
a reference manual,etc. on perhaps MNP 5 data compression techniques, etc.
I have tried to speak to tech support at Microcom directly but they did not
seem to have any leads. Any help in the right direction would be really
appreciated.
45822,25,10/21/92,JERRY OLSEN,MURRAY ARNOW
R/CD ROMS,
Like most things, you must match what you purchase with your intended uses.
But for starters, you should look for three things: access speed; whether
the MS CD-ROM Extensions file Ward mentioned in fact is supplied; and
whether the interface is supplied in the base price.
A few of the VERY lowest-end products file to provide the .EXE
file. Many charge extra (as much as $100) for the interface). Access
speed is a more complex subject and directly relates to your current and
future plans. If you simply want to read files from the drive, anything
around 340ms access time is fine. But for technical reasons, if you plan
to do such things as use reference-book CDs which demand random access of
index files, you may want something much faster.
With careful shopping, the lower end of decent products can now be
had in the U.S. for under $350; higher-end products double or triple that.
The shortest answer for users who don't need a lot of searching
capability (or who are willing to wait for the delays) is simply to look
for a product with the MPC (Multimedia PC Council) compliance logo.
BTW, the cheapest of the CDs with solid specs has been the Sony
CDU-535. After eval-ing various alternatives for an article, that's the one
I personally settled on...which is about the best endorsement I probably
can make. <G>
FWIW, if you want a detailed expansion of the above plus a survey
of a couple of dozen shareware CD disks, one version of my article will
appear in Shareware Magazine, whose Nov/Dec issue should show up at news
outlets and computer stores any day now.
Good luck.
45823,05,10/21/92,BOB SULLIVAN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/LIMITING SOFTWARE APPLICATIO,
My Sci America arrived on the day that I posted the message. It is the
Nov 92 issue with a picture of an ant holding a micro-gear. The article
title is "Software 'glitches' that endanger public safety."
I have come to the tentative conclusion that even software needs the
wisdom gained from actual experience.
45922,14,12/02/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
DJ500 PROBLEM (!),
I have a problem with my DeskJet 500. Since problems with the DJ are
so rare, I thought I publish a note here. Maybe someone will also have
a remedy.
I've been using a serial cable with the DJ for about nine months and
have had no problems. A few days ago, I switched to a parallel cable,
bought new. In printing a long document, the DJ started out by printing
fine. But I noticed later that it had printed a spurious "$" on pages 70,
86, 116, (two of them on) 160, and 176. When I individually reprinted
the pages, one of the pages again featured a renegade "$" (in a different
spot than before).
I called Elektek, and a techie there said he had a problem like this
with his DJ, and he cured it by removing the clips that secure the parallel
cable connector to the DJ. Sounds like voodoo technomatics to me.
Has anyone else encountered this problem?
45923,07,12/02/92,STEVE AIDIKONIS,ALL
TELCO QUESTION,
I recently received a notice (via bulk mail) from ma bell saying that I h
have been receiving touch tone service without being charged for
it. The notice went on to saythat for xx cents a month I could
continue it. One of their telemarketers left a message to the
same effect on my answering machine today. The question: does the
telco really have the ability to switch their equipment so that it
won't recognize my modem and pulse-tone switchable tones?
46022,08,01/13/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
WHY DO 486'S GET HOT?,
A fellow I know says that 486 DX2s run at better than 200 degrees
Fahrenheit. I'm curious as to what specifically causes a chip to
generate heat, given a fixed operating voltage. Is it due to the
narrowness of the interconnections between the transistors? Is it
due to the number of transistors? Is it due to the speed of
the on/off switching of the transistors? (Perhaps a better question
is, How much is due to each of these factors, and how much is due
to others.)
46023,06,01/13/93,KEN STOX,ROY LIPSCOMB
RE: WHY DO 486'S GET HOT,
The newer generation of CPU's run hot for two reasons:
1) Speed, the faster you switch, the more heat you generate.
2) There are Xx10e6 components in a very small area.
I would think that the biggest factor is a function of both, but
really is just of function of speed, since that is also a
driving factor towards smaller sizes.

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45624,02,04/28/92,BILL WOLFF,RICHARD HINTON
R/4 MEG DRAM'S?,
I've heard about 4 meg chips for about three years now... but no
I have not see any either.
45625,04,04/28/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,ALL
OS/2 ON D:,
I have a question. I have plenty of hard disk space but not on drive C:
I want to install OS/2 2.0 but the majority will have to reside in D: or E:
I have the C: drive partioned as only about 15Meg. Can do? Or must I go t
the repartion nightmare.
45724,11,09/15/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
WELCOME! & THANKS!,
It does my heart good to see callers right off the bat when CBBS came
back on line - reinforces my gut feel that it should be here! I couldn't
believe when, after being down for months, within minutes of going back
up, there was a caller! My heartfelt thanks! Please pass on the word
- especially to old CBBSers.
Any suggestions welcome! I think CBBS will stay kind of as it is for
now, but with development going on in C for portability to a native
PC environment, or Unix, etc. (*)
(*) It is currently running on a PC with a V20 chip that supports
8080 emulation! With a bunch of assembler hacks, I've interfaced between
CP/M 8080 code and the 8086 assembler interrupts, etc.
45824,09,10/22/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
386DX "FEATURE"?,
Here's an interesting quote from DATAMATION, September 15, 1992, p. 19:
"One problem already turned up in the early prerelease beta version
of NT: incompatibility with early 'b1' runs of Intel's 386DX
microprocessor, hundreds of thousands of which have shipped...in
mid- and high-end machines."
The "incompatibility" evidentally was some function that differed
from that on later versions of that chip. Anyone know what it was?
Anyone know of other functional differences (in 386/486 chips)
that affect execution of 8086 machine code?
45924,23,12/02/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/DJ500 PROBLEM (!),
I would suspect the cable -- specificlly, I would suspect the
shielding. I had a printer buffer that worked right for years
with an OKI'92 printer. Then, when I upgraded to a DJ500, I noticed
all sorts of things like you've mentioned -- UGH. Removing the buffer
cleaned things up. You don't mention what speed you had the serial
connection at; the problem may be that you're now running at VERY high
speed: Parallel ports do that, especially given the 16K buffer in the
DJ500. At high speeds (like my buffer pumping things ito the DJ on-board
buffer), things get dicey. My buffer was hooked to the printer via
a (built-in) short ribbon cable. Removing the buffer fixed everything.
It may be the case that your cable isn't properly shielding things, and
the result is that on high-speed prints (the first 16K or so) you get
junk. On reviewing your message, I see the problems occurred later.
Since I don't know the DJ as wel as Ward (HEY! WARD!), it seems to
me that the DJ could still be getting stuff in "bursts" at that point,
and so you could still hav troubles.
End of story: try a new parallel cable -- preferrably a nic, high-end,
VERY well-shielded one. Bet that solves your problem.
(OH -- a thought -- perhaps shielding is more important w/DJ because
of the 'spark' (RFI source) used in printing???)
22
45925,07,12/02/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/DJ500 PROBLEM (!),
Well, I expect you are looking for an answer from me (grin) but I must
admit, your "Since problems with the DJ are so rare.." comment applies
to me - I've not run into such a thing. Is the printer and computer
plugged into the same outlet? (better "relative" grounding that way -
to coin a term). Voodoo. Seems appropriate.
Gee, I really don't know what to do to help...other than suggesting
trying another cable.
46024,06,01/13/93,BENJAMIN COHEN,ALL
FOR SALE,NONE
For Sale: 286-10 mother board with 1 meg, Intel above board plus with piggy
back board and 4 mg RAM, 80 meg Seagate ST-4096 with Western Digital
controller card, AT I/O card (2s, 1p, 1game), Stacker 2 co-processor board.
Leave message here or call 312-726-3555 days, 708-965-8142 eves, wkends
(if no answer, lv message on ans mach at 965-8144). No reasonable offer
refused....
46025,12,01/14/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/WHY DO 486'S GET HOT?,
It is due to the number of transistors and the speed of on/off switching.
The technology is probably CMOS, which means "Complimentary Metal Oxide
Semiconductor". Unlike traditional transistors, MOS means that there is
an insulator (the oxide) between the controlling signal and the Input
and output signals. Like a capacitor, it is inherently an AC device,
in that electrons get pushed into one side of the capacitor, but don't
cross the insulating barrier. When you turn it off the electronc go
back out, when you turn it on again, they get pushed in again, etc.
Like DC resistance causing heat, all these electrons moving around cause
heat. The big difference is that speed is totally related to the heat -
if you clock the chip at 2mhz, it might take forever to get something
done, but a 486 would run quite a bit cooler.

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45626,01,04/28/92,BILL WOLFF,TONY ANTONUCCI
R/OS/2 ON D:,
Oh...oh... doesn't look good Tony!
45627,06,04/29/92,ALEX ZELL,BILL WOLFF
RE/TALKING PRGM,NONO
Thanks for the info. Sent it on to the inquirer via an
awful system called "unison" or "parti" or both. I changed
the address to Bklyn NY to maintain parity with its zip code.
NYC postoffice is very rigid about borough separation.
45727,10,09/15/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALEX ZELL
RING NO ANSWER,
Rats, sorry to hear that! I'll have to ask randy to keep an eye on
CBBS, until such time as it can be made more solid - a rewrite for chinet,
perhaps?
Also, I felt REALLY BAD about your forgetting the password on the
Ward Board - seems I was forgetting to check the log for a while, so it
seemed your pleas fell on deaf ears! Again, my apologies! It means a lot
to me to see you back here! Also can't believe we had 4 new-user calls in
a row! MD, Chi, Naperville, Park Ridge. CBBS's number must be published
around a bit. NOW, we need some good message threads! (using the terms
loosely).
45826,03,10/22/92,MURRAY ARNOW,JERRY OLSEN
R/CD ROMS,
It so happens that I just read that Gateway 2000 is offering Sony CD ROMs
for $225. You and Ward helped me to decide to go that route. Thanks for the
help.
45827,01,10/22/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MURRAY ARNOW
R/CD ROMS,
Do you have a Gateway? I think their offer is only for their customers.
45926,10,12/02/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,STEVE AIDIKONIS
R/TELCO QUESTION,
Yep, the telco sure can take away your ability to use touch tone.
What happened, was that in the early days of touch tone, the switching
equipment wasn't very sophisticated, so they just slapped touch-tone
receivers on EVERY line. NOW, your switching office proably has put in
newer highly-computerized switches, and it can do things like individually
reject touch tones - probably a bit in memory somewhere. You'll have to
start paying...
Gee, it just dawned on me - CBBS's line probably shouldn't be having
touch-tone on it! It annoys me to have to pay $13/month for an "incoming"
line! (Talking CBBS/The Ward Board - I dunno about CBBS/Chicago).
45927,02,12/03/92,ANGELA ALLEN,ALL
AS00,
I have a test coming up next Thursday on working on the AS/400. Sure could
use some help. Will check back 12/06 for clues! -Angela
46026,10,01/14/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BENJAMIN COHEN
R/FOR SALE,
All I can think of the problem you had entering your message is that you
put one too many fields in the input line. The syntax for expert users
is l;whoto;subject;password but if you stuck in one too many "fields",
as I did in this by putting in "whatever", you are then putting the subject
into the password field. You gave me the clue when you said "> 4 long"
because that's the length (4) of the password field:
>Function:?e;all;whatever;for sale
Msg 46026
++LINE > 4 LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER:
FOR^U
46027,07,01/15/93,BOB SULLIVAN,ALL
REQUEST HELP - VISUAL 102,DESU
I am trying to get a VISUAL 102 TERMINAL to send data
out to an OKIDATA printer. Does anybody know of:
where I can get hold of a VISUAL 102 Manual with port
specs, or does anybody locally still use Visual 102
( I already tried IIT ), or does anybody know if the
company still exists and where it is?
Any help will be aprreciated.

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45628,07,04/29/92,AL HIGGINS,B MATTSON
OS2 UTILITIES,DEVO
Found some OS2 utilities... Their called GrammaTech PO Box 70
Edmond OK 73083 Phone 405 359-1219 FAX 405 359-7391
Optimize HPFS volumes, recovers erased files on HPFS or FAT,
disk sector editor, test disk data integrity, remove selected files,
locate duplicate or lost files, display volume information, etc.......
List at $125. Hope to get an evaluation copy to review! Will
keep you posted.....
45729,02,09/15/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,GEORGE LIMBERG
R/MNP TECHNICAL DATA,
Microcom sells the spec - I think for a nominal fee. I found someone
in Hayes willing to mail me a 6-page doc, we'll see what I get.
45829,04,10/22/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,JERRY OLSEN
R/CD ROMS,
Have you gotten into the OS/2 issues of CD-roms? I'm running OS/2
now and then, and would like to get the IBM developer's CD-ROM, so
I want an OS/2 compatible one. Also I'd LOVE for it to hook to my
IN-2000 controller, though I may be going to an Ultrastor 14F.
45928,07,12/03/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANGELA ALLEN
R/AS00,
Give us a clue - what kind of "clues" are you looking for? Actually,
I don't think I've ever seen an AS/400 question here...
I'm trying to remember - hmmm - I vaguely recall a "midrange" BBS
somewhere that I think catered to AS/400 folks. But I don't have a shot
at remembering it. Perhaps someone else will.
Where 'ya going to school? What is the name/content of the course?
(if you feel like being "chatty").
45929,05,12/03/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
PENTIUM: 64 BIT?,
Is the 586 64 bits externally? I recall IBM saying the model 90 and 95
were the most "likely" to be able to handle a Pentium, since it used a
dual-path to memory - BUT - I think that was for "memory interleave", and
that is a performance thing. If the 586 would use BOTH paths, the memory
would be slower, I think!
46028,02,01/15/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
SPEECH INPUT?,
Well, carpal tunnel is getting to me - my left hand hurts, back of
hand "tingles"... It is time for voice input! Do any of them really work?
46029,18,01/16/93,ERIC BOHLMAN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/SPEECH INPUT?,
Dragon Dictate really does work, although it has its quirks (when you're
getting started with it, it will often come up with truly weird guesses
as to what you're saying, though you always get a chance to correct
them). VoiceType from a company that you're probably quite familiar
with works pretty much the same (Dragon did the program design), but
has a smaller built-in vocabulary. All of these are discrete-word
recognizers; you have to pause between words. They're also memory
hogs.
A number of companies are now coming out with multiple-piece keyboards
where the pieces can be oriented to whatever angle keeps the stress
off your wrists.
Maybe I should write a TSR that measures the rate and number of keystrokes
and pops up a "give your wrists a break" message if you've been going
at it too long. Part of the problem is that your tendons swell up
more if you don't give them a chance to recover; if you take appropriate
pauses, you can get away with a lot more abuse.

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45630,05,04/29/92,ALEX ZELL,BOB LUND
MSG RETENTION,NONO
You ask how long messages are retained here. They remain until they
are removed by the original author, the addressee, or Ward or an assistant
operator, who take them off the top when the active message base
approaches its limit. If you do r;1 you will see that at this time
the messages go back to Oct 1991.
45631,05,04/30/92,BILL WOLFF,ALEX ZELL
R/MSG RETENTION,
I did a R;1 command and it told me that message 1 wasn't found. I typed
the plus key to scan for the next 10. Still nothing. I pressed the plus
key about 5 more times and I finally gave up and typed S;1 and it
reported the first message number was 45169. So to make an already long
story short... just type R;45169 to see the first message. ;-)
45731,05,09/16/92,MARTY DIPPEL,WARD
CONGRATS!,
Glad you brought it back up again! I've really missed CBBS while it was down;
seems like seeing an old friend after a long time. Antique or not,
CBBS has a definite place, rest assured! Not only is it the world's
first, but the "compact" (terse) message style suits me better than the
constant drivel found on so many other boards. Thanks!! -Marty.
45830,13,10/22/92,PETE CANTELE,ALL
INFO ON SCSI CTLR.,TTTT
Does anyone have any info pro/con on a SCSI controller manufactured
by CE Infosys? (Model C5610)
I purchased and installed one based on what the distributor told me
and it seemed like such a piece of cake. (I used it in conjunction
with a Seagate st14766n (663M) hd. for a client.)
I tried it installed as the boot drive and also with the driver as
a second drive, (after an IDE boot drive), and it appeared to work
positively super.
In the handbook it talked about connecting CD roms and other devices.
The price was <$100 which is cheaper than most I've seen.
I am asking the question because I've never heard of this controller
in any of the magazines, computer shopper, etc.
Any comments?
45831,04,10/23/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD
R/386DX "FEATURE",
Thanks for your response. My main concern was whether this "feature"
made the early 386DX to some small extent incompatible with 8086 machine
code. (For instance, setting STD as the default instead of CLD, or some
such arcanum.)
45930,04,12/03/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG/ALL
MNP BACK ON CBBS,
Randy got the modem "zapped" to support MNP - I got "CONNECT 2400/ARQ"
tonight, so it seems to work fine. Should help the folks getting some
line noise, such as you, Michael...
Let me know how it works.
45931,16,12/04/92,AL HIGGINS,STEVE AIDIKONIS
R/TELCO QUESTION,
yes they can..... It's one of thoese thecnological advances years ago,
the equipment to support TT was cheaper than rotary, also there was
so many rotary phones out there it wasn't worth their while to try
and charge people for TT service. The local operating telephone
company normally catches people when they move, they ask you if the
phoenes your taking with you are TT. For those of us who haven't
moved for a while...... they don't know. IL Bell started a campain
s ago to boos ago to boost their profit my asking their entire customer
base if they using TT or rotary phones. They call up our house and
asked my kids when they answered the phone, and guess what, next
month was a charge for TT service. If you tell then you don't use TT
service they "may" just turn the your service down to accept rotary only.
After I complained about the charge, they dropped the charge, AND REVERTED
my service to rotary. Doesn't make any difference to me as that line is
used for incoming only!
So be prepaired...
46030,04,01/16/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
PIZZA PARTY LIST,
What do you think I should do - should I check with the current CACHE
officers to see if they "OK" using the old list? Do you want to take
part of the list? Actually, I may have one on 8" disk, and by moving
some hardware around I might be able to actually read it!
46031,09,01/17/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD
PIZZA PARTY LIST,
I imagine they would not object to your using the list for that
purpose. I also have a feeling that it would be at least courteous
to get such permission, since the list actually is the property of
CACHE. But my original thoughts were that CACHE might run a note in
their newsletter, for the old timers or for anyone, as you deem best;
and that perhaps CACHE would provide an updated list for those old
timers who are still around. For my part, I guess I was offering to
call a subset of old timers on the list; but maybe postcards would be
less work. What do you think?

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45632,04,04/30/92,BILL WOLFF,JIM POLOUS
R/HARD DISKS,
Oh great... now I read your message 45632 about Conner 20 Meg HD. I just
bought one a few weeks back and the darn thing died on me. The logic
curcuits appear to be okay, it's just that the drive won't spin when
requested to do so... what a rip... $300 I paid for it too.
45732,05,09/17/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CACHE REUNION?,
Anyone think it would be interesting to try to get together folks
from the OLD CACHE organization - say late 70's, early 80's? It could
be a 15-year reunion maybe based upon old lists. Lets see, Roy Lipscomb,
Gerry Swetsky, Bill Precht, Rob't Swartz, Lloyd Smith, Bill B.. (The NI
Gas Guy), etc? Wonder how successful it would be.
45733,01,09/17/92,GEORGE LIMBERG,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/MNP TECHNICAL DATA,
Thanks for your help on this. I really appreciate it.
45832,10,10/23/92,BILL MATTSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
CD-ROM,
Ward...not to interject where not wanted, but I seem to remember OS2
only supports two CD-ROM drives. There is a ZIP file available with a
replacement CD-ROM driver for OS2 that is supposed to support more
drives than the 2 IBM likes. Available on C'Serve, and I also have it
if you like...can't remember it's name but can dig it out. Where can
one get info on the IBM Developer's CD-ROM you mentioned in your
message? I've also heard something about a beta test of developer's
something-or-other. Any info on such??? P.S. I'm referring to 2 CD-ROM
drive manufacturers, maybe one was Toshiba, would have to look in the
above-mentioned ZIP file. ...Regards
45833,12,10/24/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL MATTSON
R/CD-ROM,
Ya, IBM & Toshiba were the only 2 supported - but there are rumors
of being able to patch others in - you patch in the name of the drive
in the driver so when the drive ID's itself the driver sez "OK". I
hadn't heard of the zip file you're referring to. Still quite up in the
air as to what direction to go.
I don't know what the deal was on the developers CD-rom. I think the
guy who said he was getting me one didn't, for I've seen him several times
and he never mentioned it (and I didn't think of it).
The only beta test I know of is for C++, but don't know if it is external
or not. There is something like a "developer's Assistance Program" (DAP)
but not sure how you'd enroll in it. I think the general IBM 800 # is
1-800-IBM-3333, they might know.
45932,08,12/04/92,AL HIGGINS,ALL
HP DJ500C CARTRIDGES,DEVO
Over the past year I have collected a number of printer cartridges. I've
refilled them with other colors other than black and thats worked fine.
The problem I'm having is keeping the ink jet end from drying up
between uses... There was a nice little container for storing the cartridges
that came with the machine. Has anyone seen an after market device that
will hold 3-5 cartridges??????
Also, has anyone seen kits for filling the tri-colored cartridge? Has
anyone been successful in filling one of those cartridges??
45933,11,12/04/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,WARD/ALL
PHONE NOISE,
Ward,
I had that connect 1200 happen also. If the burst of noise comes while
the modem is cheking the 2400 speed they miss 'handshaking' and it
skips down ( it seems that what happened) I'll try complaining about a
multiplexer to Ma Bell. I have called repair 4 times now and they keep
saying there is no problem, yet I continue to get noise calling here and
one other location in the same switch. I also had a client with the same
problem in Buffalo Grove to libertyville call, and again Bell said no
problem was found, but the problem also went away after they tested it.
I don't think MNP will help this severe of a noise problem, there are
actual clicks and pops in the line.
46032,07,01/18/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/PIZZA PARTY LIST,
I ran into a current cache member on America Online, and I wrote a
little piece for him to do - either just bringing up in the meeting,
or put in the newsletter, so we're at least somewhat "covered" in that
area.
Dunno about post cards vs calling...I guess selfishly I'd like to
contact the folks I REMEMBER - but I'll bet there would be familiar faces
whose name I'd not associated with it...
46033,01,01/18/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD
R/PIZZA PARTY LIST,
At roughly what year does your memory fade?

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45634,06,04/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BOB LUND
MESSAGE RETENTION,
The other msg saying to r;1 was wrong - a summary command is how you'd
find the oldest msg: When I did it tonight (o;100) I got this:
45169 10/15/91 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "THANKS TO RANDY SUESS"
SO messages stay around here how ever long it takes to keep the # of
msgs pruned down to the high 300s. Right now it is for example, about
6 months.
45635,04,04/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALEX ZELL
R/COPH,
IBM operates a clearing house of software and hardware ideas to help
the handicapped - I don't have the # handy, but 1-800-IBM-2468 (the "main
IBM number") should help - ask for the "NSCPD" - I think it is "National
Solution Center for the Physically Disabled".
45734,08,09/18/92,AL HIGGINS,ALL
PC MAINTENANCE PRICING,DEVO
I have the responsibility for putting PCs under national maint. agreements
for the firm I work for. Is there anyone out there who has the same type of
responsibility, and can tell me what firms they are using for maintaining
their PCs?? We are not toooo happy with the company we are using, and are
thinking of changing providing we can find someone who is cost competitive,
and can support PCs in ALL 50 states on a four hour response. Any comments
would be appreciated!!!!!!
45834,01,10/24/92,MURRAY ARNOW,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/CD ROMS,
Yes, I have a Gateway. You're right about their offer for customers only.
45835,08,10/27/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
CHANGING AT&T PC63000 BATTERY?,
A friend has an AT&T PC6300 (IBM-PC compatible). The clock/calendar
battery seems dead. Can anyone tell me if the battery is replaceable?
(And where it is located?) Thanks.
By the way, there is a file called ATT1991.ZIP that describes how to
correct the PC6300 so that it will accept years in the range 1992-1999
(vs. the original range of 1984-1991). If you're interested but can't
locate it, leave a message here.
45934,06,12/06/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,AL HIGGINS
R/HP DJ500C CARTRIDGES,
The trick to storing the DJ cart's seems to be preventing them from
drying out, without actually touching the nozzle. I'd be inclined to
see about maybe some kind of humidity-supplying container if the "real
thing" can't be found or made...
Yes, I "think" I've seen the color recharge kits, but I don't recall
the details. I'll try to check my stored deskjet threads from Compuserve.
45935,13,12/06/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,ALL
AT HOME LAPTOP UPDATES,
I have been playing with ways of making a Toshiba 1600 with 1 meg ram and
a 20 meg hard drive usable i todays software world. Toshiba only offered
a 20 or 40 with this particular machine. I have also noticed that almost
all manufacturers do not load the drive type tables in the BIOS and do not
allow a user definable selecttion.
This particular machine has a 20 meg conner in it (IDE 3020 I believe)
I should be able to put any IDE drive in to the space provided
and if nothing else, get the first 20 meg.
Now, if one would use ontrack disk software ( sort of outdated with dos
4.0 , 5.0), you can set up any physical drive to be accessed via the
table setting in BOIS. While toshiba was of no help, Ontrack said
that I should be able to pull this off, at least via software.
Has anyone else tried this, or heard of doing this ???
46034,07,01/18/93,ANDY SHAPIRO,BOB SULLIVAN
R/REQUEST HELP - VISUAL 102,
Most terminals have SERIAL hookups for printers, so, unless you have
an unusual Okidata (most are parallel) yer outa luck. If you DO have
a serial printer, I'd try seeing if there is a SETUP (usually activated
by pressing a SETUP key and possibly a shift key) that turns the printer
on. This terminal PROBABLY emulates a VT-102, so a Digital Equipment
manual might be useful -- also, VAXen can print to a printer-equipped
terminal with the PVT command. Sorry this isn't more help...
46035,12,01/19/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
PROBLEM WITH MATCHBOOK MODEM,
I've got a problem with a Practical Peripherals "matchbook"-sized
modem. When I start Procomm 2.4.3, the modem plays dead either
1) until I quit Procomm and then reinvoke Procomm, or else 2) until
I press Alt-H ("Hang up").
I tried all sorts of other kludges: Diddling with Procomm's modem
initialization string; creating a control-string file that is TYPEd to
COM1 before Procomm is called; and entering strings by hand within
Procomm. Among the strings I tried was the string used by Procomm to
go on-hook (~~~+++~~~ATH0). None of them work.
I'd like Procomm to start and run without all this pussy-footing.
Anyone have any ideas on what the problem is?

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45636,04,04/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,TONY ANTONUCCI
R/OS/2 ON D:,
The good news is: you can have OS/2 even BOOT from D:
The bad news is that you can only do so if you go under BOOT MANAGER,
which requires you to completely re-partition your hard disk - the boot
manager becomes a small partition, then you could have C: and D:, etc.
45736,07,09/19/92,ALEX ZELL,WARD
RING/PWORD,NONO
Nah, no problem. I let Randy know right away when it happened and
he fixed it. Hasn't occurred again since. As for p-word, I should
have recalled it since it is based on something important to me.
I think chaz has not been calling here recently, and I know he
no longer calls chinet. I know where he hangs out and will let him
know thru email that we are back up. Message threads? Betcha they
will be developed by the callers "as the spirit moves them." Fer sure.
45737,03,09/19/92,DAVID JOHNSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK!,
It's good to see CBBS back up. I've been following it's progress on Chinet
and was afraid that it wasn't going to be resurrected any time soon.
Welcome back!
45836,16,10/27/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
IDIOSYNCRASY IN TANDON DOS?,
If anyone has a recent Tandon PC running DOS 5.0, I would appreciate
you're running the two test programs given below. The purpose is to
determine what value is in the CX register at the start of a .COM
program. (No, it's not the program length; that's true only if you
load the .COM file under DEBUG. The normal value actually is 00FF.
I need to know if the Tandon has 0000 instead.)
Test program one: Test program two:
org 100h
mov dl,ch Same as test program one,
add dl,40 except change second line
mov ah,2 to read "mov dl,cl"
int 21h
mov ah,4ch
int 21h
Each program will print one character on the console. Please
report what each of those characters are. Thanks much.
45837,04,10/27/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/CHANGING AT&T PC63000 BATTER,
I think the battery is located in a holder on the bottom of
the machine. I had to chnage one years ago...the motherboard
is upside down, and you remove the BOTTOM cover of the case to get
to it (I think!).
45936,09,12/06/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,ALL
HP LASERJET4 & TRUETYPE,
I have been looking at the LJ4 and have called HP in an attempt to get a
handle on the truetype world. First as I see it, truetype basically pr
provides a subset of the functionality of postscript, being scalable fonts
only. No graphic processing is set it in.
I asked HP if additional truetype fonts could be downloaded into the
printer. Their response was 'no', that truetype was not downloadable, and
that I could either add cartridges with the fonts, or use something like
ATM to convert from truetype to bit mapped graphic data and print that.
Can someone seperate fact from fiction here ????
45937,08,12/07/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD/ANDY
R?DJ500 PROBLEM (!),
The cable is an off-the-shelf one I got from Elektek at the same time
I bought my DJ500 there. Because I was able print so many pages before
the problem sprung up, I thought maybe static was the problem. All
those pages rubbing on the platten, maybe. (The cable mentioned above
is a six-foot parallel.) Since the DJ works fine with the serial
port, I'm not sure I want to risk having anyone monkey with it even
though it's under warranty. ("If you're not sure it's broke, you're
not sure you should fix it," as they say.)
46036,03,01/19/93,BOB SULLIVAN,ALL
VISUAL TECH INC?,
Does anybody know the location of Visual Technology Inc.
There were located in Andover, MA at one time. They
made the Visual 102. Or maybe they have gone out of business?
46037,03,01/19/93,KEN STOX,ROY LIPSCOMB
RE: MODEM PROBLEM,
Is the modem "really" playing dead? or is Procomm not sending data
because it thinks that the modem is not "ready" ? Try changing the
modems setup for line control (eg. AT&C1 )

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45638,06,05/02/92,RICHARD FERGUSON,ALL
NEED PROGRAMS FOR Z80 S-100,
i am in need of software for my system.
i have complete utilities and programs for the 1.41+ bus.
am willing to trade or work other arangements out.
i can design hardware for the s-100 if needed.
call me at (402)532-2300 voice line colect if needed.
thank you signed richard l. ferguson
45639,07,05/02/92,BILL WOLFF,ALL
MARS-BBS Z-120,
A friend of mine appears to have taken on a task bigger than he can
chew. He is helping another friend take a Zenith Z-120 and trying to
use it as a BBS on packet radio for a MARS station. It appears this
Zenith won't run PCDOS and nothing is available for BBS work in
ZDOS. So CP/M seems to be the only hope right now. Zenith mentions
CP/M v2.2.101 for running CP/M. Anybody out there that can help,
please EMAIL me some information to pass on to him. And thanks!
45739,06,09/22/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,JOHN ZWIERZYNA
CBBS,
Yes, it is nice to be back - and to have you back! Contribute? Ya!
What we need is some "message topics" to bring on the threads (to use
the term loosely - CBBS doesn't currently support "threads" i.e. keeping
track of replies - but you can use summary commands to read all msgs of
a given topic).
I think I'll start with the next msg - about CD ROMS.
45839,13,10/29/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
INTERNET VIA PUBNET?,
Does Chicago have any "Pubnets" for accessing the Internet?
An article in ONLINE ACCESS, in the Fall 1992 issue, gives three access
routes to Internet: Local universities, commericial BBS's, and Pubnets:
"The third, and often the cheapest route, is through public access
networks, often referred to as Pubnets. There are hundreds of Pubnets
spread throughout the world. A Pubnet can best be described as a
noncomercial BBS specializing in providing Internet access. Charges are
nominal; in fact, in many cases, access is free. Pubnets grew out of
the ideal that internet access should be available to all...."
"To find out more about Pubnets, and to find your nearest site,
subscribe to the Pubnet mailing list by sending an e-mail message to:
pubnet-request@chinacat.unicom.com
...."
45938,09,12/07/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/AT HOME LAPTOP UPDATES,
Have you considered disk compression software? If you can put a 40
Meg disk in there, then you could use SuperStore (sp?) or something
like that to gain a lot more space (of course, 20 will get you 40,
too...). If things go right, you'd be able to load the software
above 640, and you'd be set. Note that, since most processors run
PDQ, there's really no operations penalty -- it's faster to decompress
stuff than it is to load it off the disk! I've been using DRDOS
(with built-in SUPERSTOR) for most of the past year, and I've had
no apparent slowdown...
45939,04,12/07/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/HP LASERJET4 & TRUETYPE,
I'm not that up on True Type, but ATM is not a "font" when it gets to the
printer, just a bit-stream. The fonts are scaled, filled in, and rastorized
to the printer. Thus I think Tru-Type would be the same - which if true
would result in the answer you got - that "no, trutype is not downloadable".
46038,03,01/19/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BOB SULLIVAN
R/VISUAL TECH INC?,
I've got a HUGE list of a BUNCH of companies - not maybe like the
CD-ROM one, but all I've got is Visual Business Systems,(404) 956-0325,Voice
and - heh heh - THEY might have heard of the OTHER "visual", but probably not.
46039,02,01/20/93,BENJAMIN COHEN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/SPEECH INPUT?,
I've heard good thinngs about Dragon Dictate, but it's a bit
expensive still!

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45640,04,05/02/92,STEVE FARMILANT,ALL
3.5 TO 51/4 CONVERT???,GLOB
Is there a way to use copyiipc to backup a 3 1/2" disk onto a 5 1/4" disk?
I've had no success after 6 hours of popping disks. The 3 1/2 inch drive
is formatted at 1.44 mb, even though the disk itself is only 720...
the 5 1/4 disk drive is formatted at 1.2. Any ideas?
45641,05,05/03/92,BILL WOLFF,STEVE FARMILANT
R/3.5 TO 51/4 CONVERT???,
Why use copyiipc? Just use the BACKUP command from DOS if all you want
to do is really backup the files? Or better yet, just ZIP them into
one neat little file and then save the new file to disk. If you really
want to make a running copy of some protected software... then good
luck!
45740,16,09/22/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CD-ROMS,
Any thoughts about CD-ROMS? I see many bundled with their own controllers -
are many of them SCSI? I have an IN-2000 SCSI controller, but might like
to go for a faster one and one supported by OS/2 such as an Adaptec -
lets see (scratching head)... 1542B? Then the ROM itself: OS/2 only
supports IBM and Toshiba, though "some" others work by patching the name
of the drive mfgr into the support module.
I'd like music, and I'd like NOT to buy in on the "trailing edge" of
an era - sounds like the double-speed, or even quad-speed CDs are right
here now, though not completely taking over the market.
Lets put OS/2 out of the picture for now - Just windows (currently 3.0,
but with 3.1 on the shelf). What drive would work on my IN-2000?
Thanks!
P.S. lets get some messages going here! I sure would appreciate it!
I know with all the outages, CBBS will never see 50 calls a day again on
its one line, but perhaps we can get a bit of "critical mass" to keep it
alive as a piece of working history! Thanks!
45741,20,09/24/92,JERRY OLSEN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/CD-ROMS,
I just wrote an article about multimedia-related hardware, including
CD-ROM drives. This was for a shareware mag, so I didn't look at the
high end. OTOH, I disregarded the true low end too. I focused upon
those that were fully compatible with Win 3.0 with MM extensions and
3.1. The hands-down winner was Sony's CDU535. (Among the best sources
I found was FastMICRO. About #350 to the door, very fast service,
a sales staff which knew what it was doing, etc.
BTW, I too am very glad you're back up, not only because this has
been my favorite BBS since my first modem in the early '80s (well,
except for my own BBS, of course <G>) but also because I slipped
this phone number into an article about shareware's first decade.
(Remember that we spoke briefly about that a couple of months ago?)
That article is turning into my most-sold piece ever--in the U.S.,
U.K., Australia and Canada. (The latter is a mainstream pub, but
they still were interested.) Also, some writer in Texas wants to
excerpt the section about CBBS and MODEM/XMODEM this week....So you
may get a healthy number of additional callers as a result.
Regards.
45840,11,10/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
ZIP FILES ON MAC?,
Ted Moran called CBBS but goofed and left a comment instead of a msg,
so I'll leave the msg for him. Please "E"nter a msg right to Ted if
you have an answer:
-- comment follows --
10/29/92,03:25:04,227793,1,TED MORAN,CHGO/IL,11
]This is way cool board. I am looking for a Mac program or method to
read those damned PKZIP files on other boards. Can anyone help?? I
need to be able read text files and/or download them, but almost everything
these days is all zipped up, and my mac does not seem able to handle
them. Help, please!!
TED MORAN
45841,03,10/30/92,MURRAY ARNOW,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/ZIP FILES ON MAC?,
I asked a Mac guru at work and he said there is a commercial program
called Stuff It Deluxe that is available. He also said that there were
a number of shareware programs one of which is called DEZIP.
45940,04,12/08/92,DENNIS STAHL,ALL
CARDINAL CLONE - DRDOS VS. DOS,NONE
Scenario... Clone machine (Happens to be a Cardinal) XT processor
with DRDOS installed on hard drive.
Question... Can I pop a DOS 3.3 diskette in and just format and sys
the hard drive, or is there more to do?
45941,07,12/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,DENNIS STAHL
R/CARDINAL CLONE - DRDOS VS. D,
The more usual way would be to check out FDISK first - that way you
know if the drive is DOS compatible. You could remove the partition,
add it back, format it /S and go.
P.S. you said "format & sys", I presume you know that format /s does
that. What I'm not clear on is under what condx COMMAND.COM gets copied
over. One does, one doesn't - i.e. like sys c: doesn't, but format c: /s
does.
46040,07,01/20/93,ROY LIPSCOMB,KEN STOX
RE: MODEM PROBLEM,
The modem initialization string is !ATZ &C1 &D2 S0=0 S7=8!
Makes no difference if I use &D0 or &D2, or leave off the initial "!".
A friend (whose modem this is) says she has the same problem dialing
out with a non-Procomm program; likewise, if she exits from the
program and then reinvokes it, she has greater success in getting
connected. (Her program is a dedicated application, and gives only sparse
clues as to what's happening with the line or modem).

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45642,04,05/04/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,STEVE FARMILANT
R/3.5 TO 51/4 CONVERT???,
I think you can XCOPY with the /s option to include subdirectories -
to copy between different sized media. Then, if you need a volume label,
you can use the DOS Label command to put in the label.
If the diskettes are copy protected, you're probably out of luck.
45643,02,05/04/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,RICHARD HINTON
R/4 MEG DRAM'S?,
I have not seen dip memory in the 4 meg chip, but they are readily available
as 4 meg simm memory modules.
45742,08,09/24/92,ERIC TOLL,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/THANKS,
You'll never be able to reply to me, but Picture Publisher
and Coreldraw! 3.0 Photopaint Is Execellent.
With Picture Publisher one can Select an area of a Graphic
to Manipulate. I chose a flat chested woman and gave her
nice healthy ones! I Printed It out a 1200 Dpi with a
H]
HPLJET III (Grafting Is Fun Also) I Got a Targa+64
A $8,000 SVHS Camera Etc....
45743,07,09/24/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/TELEBIT QBLAZER MODEM,
Ward:
Thanx for the info. Decided not to get the QBlazer. I took US
Robotics on their offer of a trade in on a new DS 16.8K. The cost
was a few $$ more and I gained a great deal of compatability.
Norb Dembinski
45842,01,10/31/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,TED MORAN
ZIP FILE ON MAC,
45841 is for you (Morray ignored my "Please "E"nter a msg right to Ted..."
45843,08,10/31/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
KEYBOARDS,
Anyone know a PC keyboard that is 100% compatible with IBM's enhanced
layout (I don't want \ key in funny place - I want it below [ <- ]) and
I want a "small" enter key (for if I have a large enter key, then \ gets
put somewhere "funky").
===> AND... that has a switch for swapping control and caps?
..and that does NOT do ANYTHING funky like add a left column of PC-style
function keys? I'm tired of inconsistency in how programs handle ctrl-caps
swapping, particularly under OS/2.
45942,01,12/09/92,DENNIS STAHL,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/CARDINAL CLONE - DRDOS VS. D,
Hmm... I didn't think of FDISK. Thanks!
45943,10,12/09/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,DENNIS STAHL
R/CARDINAL CLONE - DRDOS VS. D,
Why do you want to get rid of DRDOS? It'll run everything you can
run under MS-DOS, and has a number of benefits. As far as I can
tell, you'd only be LOSING functionality by going to MSDOS 3.xx.
Of course, I'm assuming that you're talking DRDOS 6.0, which has
all that MS-DOS 5.0 has and then some. DRDOS 5.0 was supposedly
the motivating force behind MSDOS 5;
But if you DO want to replace it, I'm pretty certain that you can
boot up from an MS-DOS (3.31+) floppy and just FORMAT C:/S to
start things anew.
ut Picture Pub
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45644,06,05/04/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,SHAWN BRYAND
CALL,
CHAT isn't very useful here on CBBS - the system is in a rack with
no direct access to it, and if you were talking about a chat with ME,
that is quite tough, as I'm about 40 miles from the system.
I'm not returning your call, sorry, very busy. Watching an educational
video tape (at 11:58 PM) - working long days), etc. If you want to leave
a question, I'll answer it - each of us in our own good time.
45645,03,05/05/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
SOURCE FOR 8.5" X 7" PAPER?,
Anyone know of a supplier for 8.5" X 7" paper? It's not easy to get
a precise cut using 8.5" X 14" paper. (Pages that are precisely matched
in width can be bound with silicone glue into book form.)
45744,05,09/24/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HP PAINTJET XL300 PS,
Ward:
Thanx for the info. I called a few places and they
have them in stock. I will wait to get a few more replys.
Norb Dembinski
45745,02,09/24/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,GEORGE LIMBERG
R/MNP TECHNICAL DATA,
I have received the MNP data from a friend at Hayes. I'm working on
scanning it in and converting to ASCII. You still interested?
45844,12,10/31/92,DONALD DOCKMAN,JERRY HASLETT
R/GEOWORKS,
I'm glad you asked. I have been a Geoworks user since the product was
introduced in 1990. It is the only GUI that can multitask on a XT.
The Pro upgrade incorporates a Quattro Pro file viewer so your work
done there can be used in your documents. The word processor is moderately
good to great, lacking a thesaurus and mail merge capabilities. Geocomm,
the communications software is great (I'm calling here on it!), and the
rolodex-like GeoDex interfaces with GeoPlanner for great appointment and
task tracking. GeoDraw has powerful graphics features. You can import
import PCX or TIF bitmapped pictures easily. They just came out with a
software development kit, so vendors will begin to write programs for it
soon (the Geoworks people say to me...). I know I'm looking forward to
that. Try it out and let me know what you think of it.
45845,05,10/31/92,MAX KOHN,ALL
80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS,SAVE
I just bought a 80287 coprocessor today. Upon bootup, I get a 80287 internal
register error. I have a 1989 Quadtel Bios and there is no place on the
setup to initialize for the coprocessor. In fact, the manual that came
with the coprocessor says it should be automatically detected by the
system, and it is. So what's with this error and how do I fix it?
45944,07,12/10/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
FAX,
There is no simple editor shipped with Faxability. But since its a windows
app. You could use just about any windows editor. Such as notepad for text
and paint (Windows Paint) for graphics. I personally use Word for Windows
and Micrografx Draw or Paint for images.
Now having a fax board for a few months I find its best use is to fax a
quick note to a client or associate to AVOID a phone call! Seems that
every phone call turns into 10-15 minutes....a fax only takes 2-3 minutes!
45945,08,12/10/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,ALL
FOR SALE,
I have a couple of laptops for sale. Both are Zeniths. One is a 10Mhz
286 with 40 Meg (80 w/Stacker) hard disk, and a 2400 baud internal modem
The other is a 12Mhz TurboSport 386 with a 104 Meg hard disk and a
power saving internal 2400 baud modem. Yes, I want to save up and
get one of those nifty new color notebooks...but need to sell off these.
I also have a Xircom "pocket" ethernet adapter I could bundle in with
either one if your interested. But are in perfect working order.
Leave message here, or on my BBS at 991-3894
ommunications software is great (I'm calling here on it!), and the
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46146,04,03/13/93,BENJAMIN COHEN,ALEX ZELL
BULLETINS,NONE
You should know by now that NOBODY reads the bulletins on ANY system.
That doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. And you SHOULD put a
privacy notice in the opening bulletin to obtain full protection
of the Communications Privacy Act.
46147,03,03/13/93,MURRAY ARNOW,ALL
VOICE MAIL,
I am interested in voice mail boards for the PC. I would be grateful for any
information anybody is willing to share. This is one of the many subjects I
must admit to being quite ignorant.
46246,08,05/14/93,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD
FAN CLUB,
Well, I'm sort of used to the fan noise now, but it still bothers
me a little. My old Kaypro was such a silent sucker! I've been
thinking about putting in a switch -- check for hot spots, then if
I find any, fan on. I don't know. I DO know my temperature sensitivity
is pretty good (anyone with two small children needs to be able to pick
up +/- 2 degrees or so)!
IF I try this when I get back home, I'll let you know the results...
46247,08,05/14/93,PETE CANTELE,WARD
LINE FEEDS,TTTT
Ward, Hi, happy to see that you remembered my name from so long ago.
I've been logging in regula{ly, just not saying much.~r
I{don't remember why I looked at help for line feeds; I was curious
about something or I just did it by accident. It's bei]en a long time
since I've done anything with my TRS@<}-80 equip. I've been working with
pc's & compatsl~.{just like most of the rest of the world.
I'm still hoping to see what you g#;|ook likev:~r~rt(~r;
gettimg too much garbage; got to go.
46346,08,06/29/93,GARY ELFRING,WARD CHRISTENSEN
MOVIES & COMPUTERS,
Computer Boxes- should have read software boxes, that fancy packaging
for software that users throw out, but computer stores require if you
want them to sell your product. <g>
The negatives are printed from a MAC on an image setter. It's a postScript
device. It does true 2400 dpi over it's entire printable area. Better than
8 bit color, don't know if it's 16 or 24 bit. These things are very ex
expensive, but fairly common.
46347,04,06/30/93,CHUCK YOUNG,ALL
LOOKING FOR A JOB!,
I am an engineer that has been out of work for about 6 months. I hav{
a background in UNIX, C, hardware development, software development, and
technical writing. I am also available to do contract work. If you
have an interest in me, give me a call on 708-985-6381. {
46447,11,09/05/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
X.25=MULTI LINES?,
One of the biggest surprises I recall at ONE BBSCON, was learning that
folks running multi-line BBSs didn't have to have a phone line to their
house for each line! Instead, they had a single say 56K x.25 line, which
multiplexed multiple calls! I thought that was cool.
But now that I'm back home and thinking about it (I don't mean "thinking
about DOING it", just thinking about it conceptually) I realize: or more
correctly, a friend asked: where are the modems? GOOD QUESTION!
If you have x.25, but the people calling you DO NOT, then does the phone
company have a rack of modems, turn the signals back into digital, then
digitally multiplex them down the line to your house?
Thanks for any ideas!
46546,01,01/04/94,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CBBS 16TH ANNIV PARTY 2/19,NONE
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45648,02,05/06/92,AL HIGGINS,ERIC BOHLMAN
R/ARCNET INSTALLATION,
Thanks for the reply, hope to work on this in the upcomming week!
Thanks for the response!!!!!
45748,03,09/25/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,CLIFF SHARP
R/COLORADO TAPE DRIVES,
I format them overnight - you might suggest the same. Just start a format
before going home. I think that's safer anyway because it ensures the tape
is exactly aligned with the drive.
45749,14,09/25/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD/ALL
WELCOMEK,
I dunno when yougot this thing back up, but THANKS. CBBS was the
first board I ever called, I _think_ back in 1984 (it was in the dialing
directory of a copy of MDM something-or-other (CP/M) that a friend had
given me. Helped me a lot in them days.
I'll try to come up with a good topic or two. Right now, I'm playing around
with task switchers, though I don't know if that's a good topic or not.
ALSO, I'v gotten into mapping social-science data geographically. I've
found some neat stuff! Right now, I'm working with a cheap but good program
(EXPERT MAPS -- $10.00 or so), but I'd like to find something that works at
the COUNTY level for the US. Has anybody seen such a critter? I'd
like to be able to assign levels of a given variable to counties/groups
and look at the results in glorious VGA color, but can it be done for
less than $100?? That's probably the real question...
45848,05,11/01/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MAX KOHN
R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS,
It really DOES sound like your chip has a problem! Try re-seating it,
maybe even check if you accidentally bent a pin under ('287s are a DIP
type chip, right?).
No problem dropping by only when you have problems... Just glad to have
you here at all ;-)
45849,06,11/01/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MAX KOHN
HELP,
You asked for help on "last". Sorry, that IS a logical keyword, but I'd
not put it in the help file. The way you find your last call is that it
is symbolically called "*" for the high msg, or # for info on your last call.
Thus you can do "r" then when asked for a msg #, you can reply *, and if
you just want to find statistics about your last call (date, time, hi msg
#) then use the "#" command.
45948,02,12/10/92,ALEX ZELL,ALL
R/TELCO QUESTION,NONO
None of the *dial-in* phone lines at Chinet and CBBS have tone
(DTMF) dialing.
45949,11,12/10/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HP LASERJET4 & TRUETYPE,
Ward,
Trutype can not be simply rasterized. AS they are
scalable fonts, one would tell the lser which fiont and what
size to make it. I don't think this person at HP knew
what they were talking about. This wories me for another
reason: I was told by a distributor that the HP4/M was
on an engineering hold and none were available
I was told that this was not
true, but that several people had called with the sa,me
story from around the country. I have the feeling
that she might have had all the wrong answers
,
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45750,02,09/26/92,MATT SANNER,ALL
MAC NEEDED,
Help, I need to find a MAC CX cheap!
I'm looking for a machine w/ 4 meg RAm and 80 meg HD. Will pay $2,000.
45751,12,09/27/92,CLIFF SHARP,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/COLORADO TAPE DRIVES,
A good idea, but this guy is paranoid about his 100% UL-approved,
surge-protected, superdeluxe Epson catching fire overnight and won't
hear of having the computer on after hours. There are a LOT of things
that this inconveniences, especially the installation of a new revision
of his sales tracking software that will take over ten hours to install,
meaning that I'm going to have to get up at 5:00 one morning (yuck) to
be there before 7 AM to begin the install.
He's usually an intelligent guy, but he has his quirks. I've got to
find a way to make that one a costly quirk, since this install could be
started at 3 PM and left to finish itself overnight, too.
Oh, well, at least his secretary has learned to format tapes so I
don't have to make a special trip to do it for them... <sigh>
45850,06,11/01/92,DAVID JOHNSON,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/INTERNET VIA PUBNET?,
Although I wouldn't call it a "Pubnet", CPSnet (Chicago Public Schools BBS)
currently is allowing access to Inet (E-mail, Telnet and FTP by mail)
for free. The system is running Magpie software under Unix. Number is
312-535-8513. I manage the Internet Issues board over there (messages
are stored on a tree basis). If/when you log on, enter "29 J" without
the quotes, and you'll get to my subboard.
45950,06,12/10/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,ALL
1.44 FLOPPY NOT BOIS SUPPORTED,
In attempting to upgrade a WYSE 386 PC
I have come to a slight problem. The BIOS does not hjave
support for 1.44 meg, only 720K. The setup program
was supplied by WYSE and uses PHEonix bios.
If indeed there is no setup for 1.44 meg, can a driver be loaded
to allow it?
hnology has reached an interesting point
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45652,09,05/07/92,BILL WOLFF,ALL
IDE INFO,
I've been hearing from the fidonet echo (old messages) that those IDE
controllers hides bad sectors it finds from MS-DOS. It was also said
that those controllers reserve good tracks to replace the faulty ones
when they are known. One even mentions that you should never use a low
level format on a IDE hard drive. Is all this true and can anybody
tell me any more information about this? It's all news to me! My IDE
drive died before I used a low level format, then it worked for awhile
after, then died again after 24 hours. I doubt that this was related to
the above news, at least I hope not.
45653,14,05/10/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL WOLFF
R/IDE INFO,
Well, I'll open the bidding (on answering your Q's) with a LITTLE bit
of info - others will supply the details (grin).
Most IDE drives use ZBR - Zone Bit Recording. This means that the
number of sectors/track varies! The purpose is like the older Mac floppies:
to keep the recording density more constant. Since the inside tracks of
a hard disk (or floppy) are "shorter" (in circumference), it makes sense
to slow down the clock a bit, and write at the same BIT DENSITY.
This means that a format program that builds a traditional WD type
controller TRACK in memory then does the track format, won't work.
Some IDE drives will be hosed up by a low level format. Some will simply
return a response "Done!" when in fact they didn't do anything. AND, a
FEW are truly low-level-formattable.
I don't have details (I don't know which drives are able to be low-
level formatted, etc).
45752,08,09/28/92,NORB DEMBINSKI,BENJAMIN COHEN
R/TELEBIT QBLAZER MODEM,
Thanx for the info. I had used the QBlazer for a trial period and liked
it very much. I decided to return it because it did not have all the
features I may want in the future. I had noticed that I could
trade my old USR HST in for a new model for just a few $ more and
have the ability to upgrade in the future if things change.
I appreciate your comments about the QBlazer.
Norb Dembinski
45753,01,09/28/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
CRC ALGORITHM?,
What is the specific formula or algorithm that produces the CRC of a file?
45853,06,11/01/92,JOE SEROCKI,ALL
GENERATOR FOR SALE,OPIE
I have a 1.5kw/110v and 10amp/12v generator for sale. Asking $300 OBO.
Excellent condition, used abt 10 hrs, oil changed twice already.
Contact Joe at 708-402-7119 or 708-587-2398.
NO SHIPPING PLEASE, it's too heavy!!!
I am located in Ingleside, IL (nw suburbs) and can meet you some
where. Just call.
45952,06,12/11/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/1.44 FLPPY NOT SUPPORTED,
Check out the DRIVPARM parameter in your DOS manual under CONFIG.SYS.
It tells you how to alter the parameters for any of your floppy drives.
One caution: If you set the parameters for 1.44 MB, you may not be
able to read 720K diskettes; and vice versa. The solution would be
to use DRIVER.SYS to define one density, and DRIVPARM to define the
other.
45953,03,12/11/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,DENNIS STAHL
R/CLONE AND DRDOS,
Yep -- keep it! DRDOS is a clone of MS-DOS; it's virtually
identical -- so don't think of it as 'different' from MS-DOS.
Just think of it as the NEXT version of MS-DOS.
rogram that builds a traditional WD type
controller TR
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45654,01,05/11/92,BILL WOLFF,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/IDE INFO,
That makes a lot more sense to me! Thanks!
45655,06,05/11/92,AL HIGGINS,ALL
486 UPGRADES,DEVO
I'm in the process at looking at 486 motherboard replacements. Does
anyone out there have any comments on AIM vs. DTK vs. Micromics or others.
If I'm going to spend the $$$$ I would like to make a good choice, and
not just a clone maker that makes a motherboard with a 486 chip in it!
It appears almost all the boards use AIM bios, and some boards can
address 16 MB, some 32 MB and others 64 MB. Any comments??
45754,06,09/28/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
QUESTIONS ABOUT DOS 4,
I don't have a copy of DOS 4, but I need two items of information to
complete a utility program that displays the DOS errorlevel for DOS 3+:
1) What is the exact offset (from 0H, not 100H) of the byte in
DOS 4's COMMAND.COM that holds the current errorlevel?
2) What are the first three bytes of DOS 4's COMMAND.COM (at 100H)?
Thanks.
45755,28,09/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
CRC2.C 1 OF 3,
/* compute crc's */
/* crc-16 is based on the polynomial x^16+x^15+x^2+1 */
/* The data is assumed to be fed in from least to most significant bit */
/* crc-ccitt is based on the polynomial x^16+x^12+x^5+1 */
/* The data is fed in from most to least significant bit */
/* The prescription for determining the mask to use for a given polynomial
is as follows:
1. Represent the polynomial by a 17-bit number
2. Assume that the most and least significant bits are 1
3. Place the right 16 bits into an integer
4. Bit reverse if serial LSB's are sent first
*/
/* Usage : crc2 [filename] */
#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <string.h>
#define M16 0xA001 /* crc-16 mask */
#define MTT 0x1021 /* crc-ccitt mask */
/* function declarations */
unsigned int updcrc(unsigned int,int,unsigned int);
unsigned int updcrcr(unsigned int,int,unsigned int);
void perr(char *);
/* variables */
char filename[100];
unsigned int crc16,crctt;
int ch;
unsigned long num;
FILE *fp;
45854,02,11/01/92,JOE SEROCKI,ALL
DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE,OPIE
HP Deskjet cartridges and used 3.5" diskettes (DSDD and DSHD). Call Joe
at 708-587-2398 or 708-587-2388. Thanks. Best offer for all.
45855,15,11/01/92,JAMES SCHMIDT,ALL
OS/2 SERVICE PAK,
Hello OS/2'ers,
As you are probably aware, the long awaited Service Pak (AP) is now
available via electronic downloading. If you don't have access to a
IBM SE and don't want to pay Compuserve the $200 to download the 20Mb
of diskette images I have an alternative solution.
I have both the 3.5" and 5.25" images and would be willing to produce a
copy for anyone who would supply the required number of blank diskettes.
It requires (14) 3.5" or (16) 5.25" diskettes. I live in Morton Grove, Il
which is just north of Chicago (9500 N and 7300 W). If you think you'd
like to make the treck out here some evening give me a call and we can
set up a date and time.
Days- 708-317-7485
Eve & Weekends 708-966-4321
James Schmidt
OS/2 Ambassador
45954,08,12/12/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/1.44 FLOPPY NOT BOIS SUPPORT,
DRIVER.SYS in your DOS manual talks about the various drive settings -
depends upon the version of DOS... I DO know that early AT's could NOT
have a 1.44M drive without a special driver - which was not readily
available.
My DOS manual is so old (at least the one I have handy) that it
doesn't address 1.44, sorry - check your manual.
P.S. would you mine just a couple space indents on a new paragraph?
makes the msg more readable. 'preciate it!
45955,10,12/12/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/1.44 FLPPY NOT SUPPORTED,
DRIVPARM wasn't ever defined by IBM, so PC-DOS doen't have it... but
of course has DRIVER.SYS. DRIVPARM was nicer in that it didn't take
more memory...
P.S. if you can think of any folks, I'd sure like to get some old
CACHE folks at the Chinet/CBBS 15th anniversary party on Feb 13th.
I'm in tough with Krystosek, Precht, Suess, Roger Hale, can you think
of others you're still in touch with? Oh, Randy and I were trying
to remember, just popped into my mind: "Bill Basset".
I'll check out one of the old listings - I think I've got one back to
the late 70's, but not sure.
 Best offer for all.
45855,15,11/01/92,JAMES S
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45656,17,05/13/92,BILL WOLFF,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/IDE INFO,
Hi Ward! Well hopefully I am suppose to use MS-DOS' format command. As
I just received my IDE-HD back from the shop. They replace it with one
that has PROTOTYPE stamped on it (oh boy?!?). Anyway, I couldn't get
it to do anything when I got it. As I could log on the hard drive, but
couldn't access, copy, read, or anything with it. Even when I tried to
partition the drive, the computer locked up! So I used MS-DOS' format
and everything started working. Format reported 65536 bytes bad for
every partition I made and I assume that's IDE protecting those
sectors, because other programs like CHKDSK and Norton's DISK TEST
reports no bad sectors. Though one partition was different as format
reported it had 83968 bytes in bad sectors. CHKDSK says it only has
18432 bytes in bad sectors (Norton also reported bad sectors in that
partition as well). If you subtract 83968 from 18432 you get 65536.
Isn't that interesting? May I assume that my IDE drive is saving 65536
bytes from DOS for bad sectors for each partition, though one spot on
my drive has 83968 in bad sectors and 65536 bytes are hidden and 18432
bytes exposed to DOS?
45756,19,09/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
CRC2.C 2 OF 3,
/* driver */
main(argc,argv)
int argc; char **argv;
{ if(argc>2) perr("Usage: crc2 [filename]");
if(argc==2) strcpy(filename,argv[1]);
else
{ printf("\nEnter filename: "); gets(filename);
}
if((fp=fopen(filename,"rb"))==NULL) perr("Can't open file");
num=0L; crc16=crctt=0;
while((ch=fgetc(fp))!=EOF)
{ num++;
crc16=updcrcr(crc16,ch,M16);
crctt=updcrc(crctt,ch,MTT);
}
fclose(fp);
printf("\nNumber of bytes = %lu\nCRC16 = %04X\nCRCTT = %04X",
num,crc16,crctt);
}
45757,28,09/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
CRC2.C 3 OF 3,
/* update crc */
unsigned int updcrc(crc,c,mask)
unsigned int crc,mask; int c;
{ int i;
c<<=8;
for(i=0;i<8;i++)
{ if((crc ^ c) & 0x8000) crc=(crc<<1)^mask;
else crc<<=1;
c<<=1;
}
return crc;
}
/* update crc reverse */
unsigned int updcrcr(crc,c,mask)
unsigned int crc,mask; int c;
{ int i;
for(i=0;i<8;i++)
{ if((crc ^ c) & 1) crc=(crc>>1)^mask;
else crc>>=1;
c>>=1;
}
return crc;
}
/* error abort */
void perr(s)
char *s;
{ printf("\n%s",s); exit(1);
}
45856,14,11/02/92,MAX KOHN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS,
I tried re-seating the chip. No good. Error message persists.
I think it's a incompatibility problem. There is no place in my BIOS
setup to tell the system where the coprocessor is. According to what
I've read, the system SHOULD automatically detect the chip. Yet,
obviously, it is trying to use a part of memory already allocated to
another device. I seem to have a non-standard BIOS that doesn't have the
ability to allocate the same place in memory for devices as other systems do
and this causes me a lot of problems. I think I may eventually have to
replace my Quadel 1989 BIOS. <sigh> In the meantime, I will remove that
coprocessor and return it to the buyer. Thanks for your help.
By the way, what is a DIP chip? I didn't understand that reference. Thanx.
Max
45857,04,11/02/92,MAX KOHN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HELP,
I'd like to ask a question. How did you know I tried to ask for Help on
"last"? I was just wondering. Anyway, I forgot how to find out where
I left off in reading messages and the number of the last message I read.
Thanks for reminding me.
45956,04,12/12/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD
KEBOARDS,
Ward -- did you ever get an ideal keyboard? I saw another Northgate
ad and it reminded me. BTW, their keyboards were used almost
exclusively in the film SNEAKERS; possibly because they have the right
sound. They didn't get any credits!
crc16,crctt);
}
45757,28,09/29/9
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45659,02,05/16/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL WOLFF
ANN PELZ,
Ya, funky. Ann Pelz is a 15 year old guy named Brandon Ellison. I
don't think he catches on. Promised not to use Ann's name again ;-)
45758,10,09/29/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
CRC,
There's also a "crcfast" that uses a pre-computed table to do the
CRC. Also there's a CRC routine that uses it on the Ward Board (708)
849-1132, in one of the low #'d msgs, like msybe 7 or so?
Basically a CRC is the remainder when a message, treated as a HUGE
number (128 byte msg = 128 x 8 bits = 1024 bit long NUMBER) divided by
a polynomial like x^16+x^15+x^2+1. However, it can be computed by shifting
a bit at a time and doing XORs and other tricks; then others have figured
how to do it 8-bits at a time (instead of a loop shifting each bit in a
byte). Actually I don't undersatnd it as well as it may already sound,
and cannot elaborate on what I've already said.
45759,06,09/29/92,ERIC BOHLMAN,CLIFF SHARP
OVERNIGHT,
For what it's worth, a client of mine has been leaving one of their machines
on overnight for over 4 years now, and nothing bad has happened to it. You
can mention that to your client (might want to tell him it would be a good
idea to turn off the monitor to prevent phosphor burn, both because it is
a good idea and because you're subtly pointing out that one of his concerns
was valid (and coming up with a workaround for it)).
45858,14,11/03/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MAX KOHN
R/80287 COPROCESSOR PROBLEMS,
DIP = Dual Inline Package. Means a typical "old" chip. Newer chips
such as 386, 486, etc are something different - Pin Grid Array or something
like that. DIP's "dual" means two rows of pins, "inline" means all the pins
are in a row (on each side) - I don't know, I recall there were packages
that had staggered rows of pins, perhaps that's why "inline" was part of
the name. An 8087 is a DIP package - 40 pins or more. SO my reference was
that if you have a pin grid array package, it would be harder to unplug
and reseat.
How'd I know you wanted help on "LAST"? In an effort to supply a more
usable system, I logged the missed help words. This was very helpful in
the early days when I was building the help file. It didn't do any good
to have someone asking for help on something logical to them but that
I hadn't thought of, so the idea struck me to go ahead and see what things
folks were asking for that wasn't there. ;-)
45859,02,11/03/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,JOE SEROCKI
R/DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE,
Deskjet font cartridges? Deskjet Ink Cartridges?. If the latter,
black? Color? If black, regular or long life? Cost?
45959,08,12/13/92,DAVID GIBBS,ANGELA ALLEN
R/AS00,
Angela:
What kind of 'clues' are you looking for? You are welcome to give my sy
a call... we cater to AS/400 and other Midrange professionals. The numbe
708-776-1062.
David Gibbs
The Midrange System
ady sound,
an
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45660,05,05/16/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
HEATHKIT DEAD?,
Just heard that Heathkit is now gone! Bummer! Not that I've used 'em
much since the mid 70s, but still too bad.
I once read something that to make a kit, they had to charge quite a bit
more than if they sold it built - to cover the engineering of the kit
building, warranty returns, etc.
45661,03,05/16/92,BILL WOLFF,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HEATHKIT DEAD?,
Heathkit isn't gone yet... in fact order the catalog as a collectors
item. Yea... I got mine right next to me matter of fact. They even
sell Windows for DOS, can you believe it?
45760,07,09/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,STEVE BOGOLUB
CACHE REUNION,
Gee, sorry, didn't mean to not include you - just quick whipped up a
few names of folks I'd talked or who had been on CBBS recently.
What do you think of the idea of a reunion? Yours is the first comment
on it (and for those who are "reading over our shoulder" Steve wondered
if he was too late, and the answer is no, since I'd not heard from
anyone at all!
P.S. nice to have you back!
45761,08,09/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,GLEN PARK
INVIZOBOBBLE,
If CBBS was not echoing what you were typing, then you probably were
"experimenting" by typing different things without knowing what they do,
or a line glitch or typo caused you to key the (now obsolete, but still
there) "D" command, which switches you into half-duplex, a mode whereby
YOUR TERMINAL program or modem echo characters so you don't want CBBS to
do so also.
Sorry for the problems. Stop back, jump in the conversations. What
are you running, what are you "into"?
45860,01,11/03/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,DAVID JOHNSON
R/INTERNET VIA PUBNET?,
Thanks, David. I'll give it a try.
45861,25,11/03/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/KEYBOARDS,
Ward, you sure don't ask for much, do you? I'd try calling the nice folks
at Lexmark. I didn't think I liked them, at first. You will recall how
much I liked the kb that came with my CompuAdd Express machine -- made by
BTC, very solid. Well, I ordered another for my home machine, and got
a Lexmark keyboard instead. It seems the Express folks switched sources
because Lexmark is trying to get into the businss bigtime (cheap). Anyway,
the feel is nice (about like an IBM, but quieter). It's rubber dome or
somesuch, with a nice feel. Well-laid out, a nice long (straight/flat)
cable, and fairly light, but with a solid feel.
The one thing it lacks is your (and my) choice of control key, and of cours
it has no switch. But Lexmark is advertising for the retail market these
days, and may have something more to your liking.
To be honest, I think that I've finally gotten used to the lower-left
control key. I have a program to switch things on my work machine, but
I seldom use it. Just like I got used to the F-keys across the top -- but
then I have large hands, which may have made the switch easier.
The only thing I can't get used to is GUIs. Maybe if I had a touch-
screen they'd make sense. Right now, I'm in the process of paring
down a Windows 3.0 installation so I can run the occasional bit of
software without 5 MB of junk. OS/2 sounds pretty good, though. Have you
taken a look at 4OS/2? It's from the same folks who make 4DOS, whic
is a MUST for DOS.
45960,14,12/13/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
DUAL IDE DRIVES,
Well, today wasn't a good day - and not only because of the sore throat,
but because of the frustration of dual IDE drives.
I got a new WD Caviar 200M to replace my 120M Seagate ST1144.
What I wanted to do was put both in the system, with the WD as master,
so I could later remove the Seagate, and move it to another system whose
old MFM drive/controller failed.
Do you put on the "master" jumper on the master, and the "slave" jumper
on the slave? No! In spite of the ST1144 having a "master" jumper
originally, it turns out (no docs came with drive!) that "slave" means
"Slave PRESENT" and is only to be used when the drive is a MASTER!
SO the "master" jumper on the WD was what worked with both, and after
moving things over, I had to remove THAT to allow the drive to work alone.
Randy's suggestion of leaving both drives OUT OF THE CASE until the
problems were solved, was a good one!
45961,01,12/14/92,DENNIS STAHL,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/CLONE AND DRDOS,
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45662,09,05/17/92,CHARLIE KESTNER,ALL
CHICAGOLAND BBS LISTING,
Folks who desire a listing of area bulletin boards are advised to
call Stillwaters BBS (708-403-2826) and get a copy of their listing.
It covers all of 312 and 708 area codes, as well as some 815 and
219 systems.
Stillwaters lets you download the listing even if you aren't a
subscriber to their system.
Those of you who have Internet/Usenet access can obtain the list
by reading the alt.bbs.lists newsgroup. The list usually gets posted
there around the end of the first week of the month.
45663,01,05/18/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,RICK NOWAK
SEE MSG 45662,
That msg has the BBS list info you were asking for.
45762,03,09/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
C-SET/2 ARRIVED,
Just going thru an install of C-set/2, the 32-bit programming environment
for OS/2. I did a show once where I ran the "station" for C-set 2, and it
was sufficiently interesting that I ordered it. Working on the install now.
45763,10,10/01/92,CLIFF SHARP,ERIC BOHLMAN
R/OVERNIGHT,
Thanks for the input, Eric. I'll pass it along. For what it's worth,
I've already told him that I've left my machine on 24 hours (except for
the monitor) for no less than eight months, and it doesn't make an
impression on him. UL approval doesn't, either, and that's part of his
livelihood; he should understand that. Finally, having known me since the
fifth grade, he should be able to trust my instincts, especially when I
can back it up with my own computer usage, my 25 years of electronics
experience (professional only; amateur goes back farther), etc. etc.
He just won't be persuaded. Unfortunately, I've agreed to this job for a
fixed price, so I can't change his mind that way either.
45862,17,11/03/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
FAX,
I have the Intel Satisfaxion board. I have the older one with a 2400
baud modem. I just did "upgrade" it from Intel. It now has the ability
to switch "auto-magically" between FAX/modem calls.
I used to use FAXit from Alien computing...came with the board. Its a
Windows program. (I have never used the FAX under DOS, but the Intel
software claims to be able to.
With the "upgrade" I got Faxability Plus...a somewhat better package under
Windows. Has a database of fax destinations, can add cover sheets (with
artwork), keeps logs of in/outbound faxes, delayed sends, etc. Its pretty
nice. I have limited fax needs, but will admit to not being able to live
witout it now! Its nice to be able to fax directly out of any windows
app. that can print. Sometimes I am on the phone with an associate
and we are taking about a data structure for example. To be sure we
both understand the format we fax a quick sketch, while still talking.
(I'm gettin some line noise!)
L'me know what else ya wanta know.
Again, good to have CBBS back!
45863,09,11/03/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,WARD & ROY
COMMAND.COM,
All COMMAND.COMs are not created equal. I wrote a quick & dirty little
program that checks the 32 CRC value of command.com when run. I put this
in my AUTOEXEC.BAT to check command.com everytime I boot. About 30% of
all computer viruses attack/attach to command.com.
If your interested in the program its available on my BBS at 991-3894 or
991-3895.
All CBBSers are welcome there. I will post a bulletin to sent callers to
CBBS. I want to see the "history" continue, plus I am a piece of history
as I think I am the first asst. sysop on the world's first BBS!
45962,04,12/14/92,BILL MATTSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DUAL IDE DRIVES,
Yep...I had the same kind of problem with a pair of 120M cumulus drives
and resorted to the same solution (set jumpers until it all works). I
had instructions but were ambiguous about the slave jumper on/off,
slave or master.
45963,01,12/14/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
CBBS 15TH *PARTY*,NONE
Come one, come all, to the Chinet & CBBS 15th Anniversary party.
Bring your hi-tech toys, inventions, creations, etc. Last year we had
a laser, home-made chain-maill (medieval armor), a "suction cup dart gun"
made from PVC that shot toilet-bowl plungers, a toy hovercraft, a remote-
control blimp, an AC-only name-tag printer hacked to run off of a battery
pack stored in an old software box, etc. No RSVP. Just show up.
====> P.S. Please also consider this a CACHE REUNION for folks from say
12-17 years ago (those who remember the era of Ward Christensen,
Randy Suess, Bill Precht, Lloyd Smith, Paul Krystosek, Bill Basset...
and a LONG list of many more...
Map to chinet / CBBS-15th-Birthday, Pizza party.
Barnabies Pizza, 2832 W. Touhy (near California)
(312) 973-4550; 2:00 PM, Saturday the 13th of February
To Wis.
| | Barnabies--.
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(C) Copywrong 1992, Ward's Cartography.
ked to run off of a battery
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45664,28,05/19/92,ARCADY KHOTIN,ALL
HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
Hi!
I'm calling via PCP from St.Petersburg, Russia! My name is Arcady Khotin.
I read a lot about this great board and now am very exited to be able
to use it. Is it true that Ward Christensen is still running it?
The telecommunications era just started in my country about a year and
Door
and now have access to Internet and even Sprint. Telephone lines are noisy,
telefaxes are still a novelty and the to access international line one
has to book a call , and it often takes three days to make it. The solution -
telecommunications via modems. Networks are growing like mashrooms. And
new disappointment - as it turned out, in your country not all businesses are
using E-Mail at all. So, to reach you we still have to rely on phone and fax.
I need your advice, colleagues - what should we do to find out if this and
that company has access to E-Mail without calling or faxing them? Do you
have some directories of E-Mail addresses accessible from Internet or some
commercial nets like CompuServe? Or books or catalogues?
As an example I'll tell you true story happened a few days ago: we had
problems with streamer made by Irwine Magnetics. They have 800 number and I
asked one of my US friends to give them a call and ask about my problem.
He did called, but couldn't solve it. So I asked him to ask them about if
they have E-Mail - and it turned out that they haven't! So here am I with
my unsolved problem and without access to the guys to ask. And there are
lots of similar cases.
To make it short - please advice, what should I do to find E-Mail address of
a company, if I can't call'em up and ask.
Best regards to clleagues!
Hope to hear your answers.
Arcady
45665,15,05/19/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ARCADY KHOTIN
R/HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
Yep, still running the board - ancient though it is.
You use the term "E-mail" as if we had some great infrastructure here in
the "states" that connected lots of people - but actually I know of no such
thing. I have some friends at a small company, and I can get to them
via Compuserve, using >MHS:name@node which is the Novell (?not even sure?)
Mail Handler Service. Other companies, are on Compuserve directly (Borland,
Microsoft, Norton, Fox, etc). Some companies - such as GREAT technical
support for tape drives from Colorado, are supported by individuals with no
forum on Compuserve. BUT I'm not sure how you get to/from the internet and
Compuserve - I think there are IDs, but as a sponsored Compuserve Sysop it
turns I'm not ALLOWED to access the Internet (perhaps there is an extra
fee, I don't know).
So, I'm not sure how you'd access various companies. It might help if you
contact them individually - admittedly slowly - by mail, and establish what
the best means is to contact them electronically.
45764,25,10/01/92,CLIFF SHARP,MURRAY ARNOW
BOOKS,
After being too busy for too long to look up the references you gave
during our monitor/CRT/electron-microscope/etc. discussion of last year,
I finally went out and had the library run some of the references. The
books were INCREDIBLY hard to find; took two months to get them.
"Color Television Picture Tubes" was a tome, but very, VERY informative.
Much of what I read there was absolute news to me; construction details,
research over the "ages", ideas, ideas, ideas. Never made it through the
whole book. I'll have to try to get my own copy of it.
The "Handbook of Vacuum devices..." book was also incredibly fascinating.
Looking at what was in there, I found that glass discolors not only because
of the continual X-ray bombardment, but also just because of electron
bombardment! Noted also that electron bombardment causes outgassing; very
interesting, and certainly explains the presence of the getter. Heck,
just the first few pages were informative; I always thought "Pyrex" glass
was impervious to sudden heat changes (as I was instructed in high school),
and found in, no less, a FOOTNOTE that the term Pyrex is used to refer to
over 150 types of glass composition.
All in all, I can't say enough in one long, boring message about the
books to which you referred us last year. I just hope I can find my own
copies of them and put them to some study. Unfortunately, these are my
last few days with them; because of State cuts in Library funds, anything
that doesn't exist in an SLS library could cost $10 as a retrieval fee,
just to get the two-week loan.
In case you didn't notice, I've kept all the messages we exchanged back
then and am using them as instructional materials...
45765,16,10/01/92,CLIFF SHARP,ALL
DISK FORMAT SOFTWARE,
Because of some repairs I had to make at the local public library on
their PS/2-30 systems (intentional and very skillful damage to software),
I'm currently looking for code, preferably assembly code, to deal with the
floppy disk controllers of today and use them to create weird, undecipherable
formats for disks which the librarians would loan for use of the computers.
Does anyone know of any sources for such information? Some sample code in
assembler would be preferred, but any and all help would be appreciated.
The most notable thing about the damage was that it was done by a "young
person" (read: 15-year-old), and it was done with great skill. They
somehow not only removed the system files from the disk, they managed to
put the \DOS directory in cluster 2 (where, of course, IO.SYS or IBMBIO.COM
usually reside), and do other things that I thought were beyond the skills
of the average hacker. I'm trying to goof-proof their systems for them,
gratis, of course.
Book recommendations would be nice, but in my present unemployed state
I might not be able to access those books.
45864,05,11/03/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,WARD & ROY
COMMAND.COM,
Cont. from last msg. I lost my train of thought. in the last msg.
In my CHKCMD program I had to build in the CRC from as many different
COMMAND.COMs as I could find. Never found any two that generated the
same CRC, even ones that were the same size. If nothing else the
output of the VER command, would make every OEM version different.
45865,03,11/03/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,TONY ANTONUCCI
R/FAX,
I finally ordered PM-FAX and I'll see how it looks. Doggone WinFaxPro
just didn't work under OS/2.
Then the fax modem broke, rats....
45964,02,12/15/92,AL HIGGINS,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/CBBS 15TH *PARTY*,
I love the graphics, reminds me of the days of AMSI and N*
- Reguards - !!
45965,02,12/16/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD
R/CBBS 15TH *PARTY*,
I still have a collection of vintage newsletters from CACHE (I think).
I check through them and see what phone numbers haven't changed.
me rep
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45666,11,05/20/92,ARCADY KHOTIN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
Hi, Ward! Great to hear from you! You are very famous in my country -
phone lines are poor, we have to use protocols very wide . So, your
protocol is taught at every computer science college we have.
Many thanks for your comments, appreciate it.
Since I'm running BBS, I'd appreciate if you'd write a few words to my
users . We'd like to hear your ideas about BBS history and evolution,
future. What business are you in now, what plans do you have, what do you think
about changes in our country...
I know, I ask a lot - but hope you'd find some time to answer.
Hope to hear, Arcady Khotin.
Software developer, President of Clipper Users Group in St.Petersburg.
45667,01,05/20/92,RICK NOWAK,CHARLIE KESTNER
R/CHICAGOLAND BBS LISTING,
Thanks!
45766,15,10/01/92,CLIFF SHARP,ALL
GOOF-PROOFING SYSTEMS,
I'm trying to make the systems at my local library as cracker-proof as
I can manage. One idea I've had is to make the systems unreadable by most
all software, by munging the partition tables of the hard drives and forcing
the use of a floppy to get the system on-line; of course, in order to get
the system running, the person would have to enter a valid SLS Inter-library
code.
I'm open to any and all ideas. To express a few initial ideas of my own,
I've thought about forcing the use of a specially-formatted floppy to gett
the hard drive on-line, and to load a device driver which would prevent
hard drive access without proper authorization. Etc. Etc.
The long and short of it is, I'd like to have them be able to loan their
computers to people with confidence that they won't end up with several
directories full of data deleted, the operating system removed from the HD,
etc.
ANY and ALL ideas are DEFINITELY appreciated.
45767,04,10/01/92,AL HIGGINS,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/PC MAINTENANCE PRICING,
I've been using both Memorex Telex and IBM domestically. However, as the
Qty. of PCs contine to increase, my maintenance budget has gone thru the
ceiling. As a result, I'm looking for other alternatives.....
- Al -
45866,06,11/04/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD
KEYBOARDS AGAIN,
Ward, try NORTHGATE. They have a 101-key keyboard that fits your specs
and ALL of their keyboards have a bank of switches that allow things
like custom placement of the control key. I think they sell for around
$100 or so, and they have a nice touch -- a lot like the original
PC keyboard. If you really need what you asked for, that's the way to get
it.
45867,02,11/04/92,JOE SEROCKI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DESKJET CARTS&DISKS 4SALE,
Sorry. Deskjet black ink carts. $10 each new, $5 each expired (seems that al
all expired good anyway). Call me at 708-587-2388 if interested. Thanks
45966,16,12/17/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/CBBS 15TH *PARTY*,
I found my Jan '78 listing! That listing was made at the time of CBBS'
invention, should be a good one for a 15th anniversary! Gee, many of the
names ring a bell - but of those that still ring a bell -John Arquero,
Al Baker, Cliff Bafber, Mrs. Robert Barber (what was her name?), Bill
Bassett, John Beal, James bell, Barton Berndtson, Chris Brewer,
John Burke, Bill Burtner, Glenn Butler, Edward Byrne, John Byrnes,
Davie Chesak, John Clark, Ed Curtis, Owen Davis, Tom Digate, Charles Douds,
Jay Dresser, Tom Dunsheath, Forrest Duston, Herb Elliott (Gee, I think that
is the guy who borrowed my Jan '75 Pop 'tronics with the ALTAIR on it!),
Alex Ellingsen, Roy Emerson, Helmut Epp, Shel Epstein
Cary Eskow, Jacob Farber, Clyde Forrester, Lou Fulton, ...
Switching only to those I've seen in recent years...
Shelly Harris (Randy's lawyer friend), Bill Hersh (now works @ Leo
Burnett), Fred Kahl (Bill Precht is still in touch with him),
Bill Precht, Randy Suess, Robert Swartz, Gerry Swetsky, Jack Wierda.
The bottom of my listing says "326 active, paid members"
45967,10,12/19/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,DENNIS STAHL
LAPTOPS,
The 286 Zenith is a SuperSport with a NEW 40 Meg HD (stacker-ed to 80Meg)
Not sure I can recall any other Model number....its the one with the ca
clam shell case.....I would like to get $700 at leaset for it.
The 386 is the TurboSport with a 108 meg HD (stacker-ed to over 200 Meg)
Both have internal 2400 baud modems...I would like $975 or better for the
386.
I also have a brand new, shrink wrapped copy of Intel Faxability Plus
software I would sell for $40 (1/3 the store price)
 lot like the original
PC keyboard. If you really need what you asked for, that's the way to get
i
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45668,05,05/22/92,BILL WOLFF,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
Hi Ward! I use Internet from CompuServe once in awhile. The syntax
is: INTERNET:whatever-the-internet-address... and that's it. To
send a message from Internet back, the syntax will be the following:
????.???@CompuServe.com. <<<< The ??? characters is the user ID
of the CompuServe user. Pretty simple, huh?
45669,13,05/23/92,MARTY DIPPEL,JOHN STAPLES
CHINET LOGIN,
I hope you've had better success at logging in to Randy's board. Usually
7-1-E does the trick; terminal emulation doesn't matter unless you're
going for ANSI graphics output. Once connected, changing parameters on your
end doesn't matter; you have to call in again with the new parms on your
terminal emulator. Sometimes the lines are flakey
on chinet; I can't always get in either. Persevere. I hope you take the
time and effort necessary to log in; I'd really enjoy exchanging EMAIL.
If you like, I can also give you an account on the Silicon Graphics system
at work. -not much there for PCs, but we do have a USENET connection as
well as being an INTERNET site. Hope to see you at the bike trip in June.
John said he wasn't sure if you could make it or not -hope so. I plan on
it so far- if I make it, it'll be the first one in about three years.
It'll be good to see the gang again.
45768,09,10/01/92,CLIFF SHARP,ALL
COMPUTERS AVAILABLE (MAYBE),
As I was talking to the Schiller Park Library staff yesterday, it came
up that there are "several" computers (at this time, type unknown) in their
basement, gathering dust, because no one knows how to use them. The staff
was VERY receptive to donating them to a worthy cause, and I've seen all
too many messages in the past year asking for used computer donations to help
the handicapped, etc. Just in case I see anything worth salvaging when I
hit their basement today, does anyone know of any WORTHY causes (they have
to be worthier than "The Cliff Sharp Computer Foundation") that could use a
computer or two, in working condx, no matter how obsolete?
45769,03,10/01/92,DONALD HIRATA,ALL
16550AFN UART,
What is the difference between 16550 and the 16550AFN UART chip an
and how will affect me if I own 386-33 or 25mhz. I'm considering buying
V.32 BIS/HST modem perferably an external.
45868,13,11/04/92,JOE SEROCKI,ALL
HAM PACKET STATION 4SALE,OPIE
Packet Package
I have the following packet package for sale. It can be broken up,
but the radio MUST go before the TNC.
RADIO: Kenwood TM221A. Modified for out of band xmit and receive.
60 watts out. Excellent condition. New lithium battery and
panel lamps. $250
TNC: New KPC-3. Excellent condition. Original ram. Internal
battery not installed (I didn't trust them not to leak).
$100.
ANTENNA: Hy-Gain 3 element 2m beam. Up in air for two hours.
$50.
Contact me at 708-402-7119 anytime. I will probably not be there,
so leave me a message and I will call you back.
45869,06,11/04/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/KEYBOARDS AGAIN,
Thanks! I tried the Northgate back when I first bought my AST premium
in '87, but they had the enlarged enter key and "lost" \ key.
I must presume they have changed a lot since then! Do you know if any
have the ctrl-caps switch on TOP so a machine with multiple users can
have each switch it to their preference?
Thanks.
45968,02,12/20/92,ALEX ZELL,WARD
NAMES,NONO
That's probably Jean Barber. She has logged on here a couple of times
in the past year.
45969,14,12/21/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
DISK CLEANUP TIP,
Heh.
I needed to clean up my system disk. I had about 350 programs in it,
i.e. little (and some not so little) utilities, bat files, etc.
I was trying to figure how to clean it up without removing something
important or having to stare at each name...
I finally decided to create an ..\unused subdir under the directory
(called \sys\bin), and move all my files to it, then move back the
ones I KNOW I use a lot.
The first day, I kept getting errors as things I use weren't there -
so I popped into TREEVIEW to move what was missing back.
The next day only a few showed up - fewer and fewer each day.
So now, I've got about 75 files in my directory, and 275 in the
..\unused directory!
Seems to be working out just fine!
em perf
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45670,06,05/23/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,SHAWN BRYANT
FILES,
CBBS had really never had file transfer - it keeps people who
have messages to send or want to help answer, from using
the system. Since this is the world's first BBS, I'd rather people
get a chance to sign on and see a bit of history, than get a busy
signal because someone is DLing something they could get from
any of thousands of other places anyway.
45671,15,05/23/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ARCADY KHOTIN
R/HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
Oh, that's a big request - I'm not into writing long articles, and really
don't have thoughts about what's happened to BBSs. Unfortunately, in a way,
my "fame" has allowed me to be a guest on Compuserve and BIX, and because
of that I've spent virtually NO time on any other BBSs than this one.
What do I think of the changes in your country? Well, sounds strange, but
I think the best is over. The "peak" was in overthrowing the old structure,
but now you're faced with reality of a -relatively- free-market society.
Heck, here even the company I work for has an office with a couple hundred
people and I think we've declared 27 people "surplus" and they'll be offered
other jobs in the "midwest area" (meaning up to hundreds of miles away), and
others encouraged to take an offer of compensation and leave the company.
I personally have been declared in the "upper half" of ranking so am not
worried, but things are MUCH tougher with a lot bigger emphasis on selling
our services.
How does Clipper handle Cryllic?
45771,04,10/01/92,ERIC BOHLMAN,CLIFF SHARP
GOOF-PROOFING,
Give Jerry Olsen a buzz over at the Advocate, 312-939-4411 by modem (he
often logs on here, but I think he's up against some article deadlines).
A few years back he wrote a hard-drive lockout program that might be of
use in this situation,
45870,09,11/04/92,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN,WARD & RANDY
SUBJECT: AN INTERVIEW W/ WARD/,
Ward and Randy. I need to ask you two some question about your BBS and some
am going to send it to an Illinois Historical magazine for a special Mass
Mass media and telecommunications edition. I would really appreciate an
interview with you guys, or one of you guys, or anyone knowlagable on the
subject. Please leave me a message abt when a good time is. (or call me on
voice (363-8903) and leave a message. I would be very thankful and will
surely mention your CBBS in my article (or bibliography). THANKS!
SEE YA
Andrei Scheinkman
45871,04,11/06/92,JIM FLANAGAN,ALL
WORDSTAR TRAINER NEEDED,
I have a consulting client who needs a trainer for Wordstar (possibly someone
to move them to a new Wordprocessor as well. The person must be excellent
in Wordstar and good at training. Please leave a message here or call me at
312-275-3081.
45970,08,12/21/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
Sounds good -- but what if you had two progams with the same name?
Then you'd still have the second one, but...! Of course, I expect you
keep backups :-). My solution to staring at file names is to
use 4DOS's description function so that I have a description
for all of my files that are 'non-obvious' -- \bin\util,
\bin\graphics, etc. The description comes up when I do DIR,
and is also present if I use select del (*.*) to do some up-
cleaning.
45971,18,12/22/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
> What if you had two programs with the same name?
I don't get it. How could I? I moved ALL my executable utilties
down to a \sys\bin\unused, then move 'em back as I need 'em.
matter of fact I wrote a little "I.bat" that looks first for a .COM,
then a .EXE, then a .BAT, and if finding one, moves it back from
...unused to \sys\bin.
You say your solution is to use 4DOS's description function -
my problem isn't that I don't know what they are - it is that it
would be a big process to sort thru 300 executable programs trying to
decide which you really use. With my trick, if you try to use it,
you have to "bring it back" from the ...\unused directory.
Actually, I have MEGABYTES to clean up on another system - but
it is not a matter of not knowing what it is, it is a matter of
trying to decide what to keep. I have a large neough hard disk that
I've become a pack rat - I have Turbo C, 1.0, 20, Turbo C++, Borland
C++, etc. Actually, the only one I use it Turbo C 2.0, so I'm
wondering if I should just "Blow the others away". But then again
might be nice to keep 'em around in case I "grow" into C++..
871,04,11/06/92,JIM FLANAGAN,ALL
WORDSTAR TRAINER NEEDED,
I have a consulting client who
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45672,29,05/25/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD/ALL
COMPUADD EXPRESS,
Pardon the noise, but it's abad line from Schenectady...
Ward, I'm in love with my CompuAdd
Express machine!
Not only is the machine GREAT, but their SERVICE is good, too.
When the machine first arrived, it hgad some monitor
problems (image tilted slightly). I called them, and the next day
a new monitor (better quality) arrived from Texas, with
prepaid airfare for its sibling to go
back to texas. WOW. A week later I gave up on trying to
fix a problem with clock
drift. I called -- and once again, they sent me out an
upgraded machine (2 extra MB of RAM). Thewy're fast,
DR DOS is SUPERIOR to MSDOS (hey, I used to use CP/M -- I'm
surprised, too!), and the machine (now that teething is over) is very nice.
The Canon double drive is also neat -- works just fine, and saves
a drive bay for other goodies.
I did get to do a little hardware hack (external). My office
hooks up to a VAX cluster through a Develcon Dataswitch. Now, the DSW
only looks at the following RS-232 lines -- TD, RD, Sig Grnd, and DTR.
DR DOS has a built-in task switcher (speedy with all that RAM!), but it
forces DTR low when you switch away from a COM task. That meant that the
Dataswitch was hanging up on me, so backgrounding wasn't too useful. My
fix was to disconnect DTR from the computer, and wire the Dataswitch end
of DTR to a small Radio Schok power supply (nominal;
6 VDC). Now I have an eternal DTR ready! I LIKE THAT MACHINE (too
bad all I have at home is an original XT!).
45673,12,05/25/92,BOB LUND,ALL
6809/FLEX/FOR SALE,
hI-
For sale
A full Mot. 6809 system.
HELIX 6809 based system -
2- 5.25; 2- 8in disk drives
Complete with scads of 6809 development
software - C, Pascal, Basic, etc.
All under FLEX operating system
Was real neat system in its time! -
Still is for the most part! -
Make me an offer somewhere around ???
Message here - Bob Lund
45772,01,10/02/92,ALEX ZELL,ALL
WARD,
Ward is on the cover of Boardwatch magazine.
45773,03,10/02/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALEX ZELL
R/WARD,
What Again? (just kidding). Is it as goofy as last time? Or is this
the one with Dvorak handing me the award while I look off in space? (There
was camera trouble, I wasn't ready...)
45872,07,11/06/92,BENJAMIN COHEN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/KEYBOARDS AGAIN,
I just got a new Northgate 102, and the dip switches are all in a little
opening that's on top of the keyboard. There's also a little orange
key that lets you make some changes on the fly. I'm not sure whether
it lets you change CTRL-CAPs Lock on the fly without looking atthe
manual. (Sorry, but I like the large Enter key -- I use SmartKey to
move /\ to locations that I want (in place of '", but then I use
Dvorak layout, which changes lots of things!)
45873,13,11/08/92,TONY ANTONUCCI,WARD CHRISTENSEN
FAX,
Just got Faxability With OCR. Send/Recv'd a few FAXes with a friend of mine
today to test the OCR. We tried pages with several different fonts and size
sizes. It did pretty well, much better than I thought it would. With a
fixed pitch font (about 12pt) it only had 2 or 3 errors on the page.
The software can put a "~" char before every char it is not sure of. And
it did put a "~" before every char it got "wrong", but also a few that
were correct.
The software can save the OCR output into about 30-40 different formats
which is nice. I saved it into Word for Windows format, doctored it up,
and retransmitted it all in under 5 minutes. The OCR is pretty slow, with
it taking 45-90 seconds per page (lots faster then I can re-type! ); )
It works with many different FAX boards, not just Intel's (but I do have
the Intel).
45972,01,12/23/92,DENNIS STAHL,TONY ANTONUCCI
R/LAPTOPS,
Thanks Tony, I'll spread the availabilty around.
45973,14,12/25/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
I meant, "what if you have two files of the same name and you
move them (sequentially) to your \sys\bin\unused? For example, what if y
had, in different directories, d.com (a GIF file viewer) and d.com
(a replacement for DIR)?" The problem would occur in moving files
to your 'unused' directory, since the second would overwrite the
first, etc.
Of course, you may not have this problem! I load many executables
via ALIASES, and the aiases sometimes have names different from the
commands themselves. In some cases, the directories don't have
to be on the path (e.g., for graphics stuff), so I may end up
with multiple executable files that share a name.
In any event, MERRY CHRISTMAS, Ward!
whether
it lets you change CTRL-CAPs Lock on the fly without looking atthe
manual. (Sorry, but I like the large Enter k
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45774,05,10/03/92,MURRAY ARNOW,CLIFF SHARP
R/BOOKS,
I'm happy to learn that you were able to get something out of the discussion
I think you will have trouble in purchasing the books mentioned. They have
been out of print for some time. There is a chance that you may find them
in a used book store ( avery slim chance). If you should be fortunate
enough to find them, you may be shocked reading their prices. Good luck...
45775,03,10/04/92,ALEX ZELL,WARD
THE PICTURE,NONO
Yep. That's the one. I jumped up and started to throw a salute
when I saw it. Didn't recognize you until I read your name on the
badge. Thought it was Col. Ollie North a first.
45874,11,11/08/92,BOB SULLIVAN,ALL
MODEM PROBLEM,
Has anyone heard of the following problem? I have a PRACTICAL
PERIPHERALS modem that is 5+ years old and used about once or twice per
week for about 30 min. I have recently moved my computer station to a
previous location that worked well last time. This includes the change
in phone jacks.
Here is the problem. After my first dial out, when I try to dial via the
modem it starts ringing instead of dialing along with some other noises.
I get around this by adding extra nulls or spaces between the "AT DT"and
the actual number. About 30 spaces works well.
Any ideas of what the cause is? Ever heard of a similar problem?
Thanks for any help.
45875,01,11/08/92,TED MORAN,MURRAY ARNOW
R/ZIP FILES ON MAC?,
Thanks you ever so much, I have stuff it deluxe, and will give it a try!
45974,03,12/25/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,ALL
MERRY CHRISTMAS,
and,
TO: ALL
SUB: A GOOD NIGHT!
45975,10,12/28/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,ALL
LASERJET 4M,
The Laserjet 4M was in fact held up due to an enginnering hold. The
person who I spoke to at HP was wrong on all fronts: The hold was due
to HP's desire to get postscript on a single simm thereby giving the
printer 3 open simm slots. The prototype unit used 2 simm slots.
On the truetype font side: Truetype fonts are scalable; therefore
downloadable intot he printer, and the built in ones are also scalable
(It took some time, but I answered my own questions).
Hope this might help somone else!
 think you will have trouble in purchasing the books mentioned. They have
been out of print for some time. There is a cha
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45676,07,05/26/92,JOHN SERRANO,ALL
2 SCSI DRIVES AND OS/2 2.0,BLAH
Is it possible to add a second hard drive to a SCSI host adapter
that is using the IBMINT13.I13 driver in OS/2? To be specific,
I'm using a Procom Technology CCE-16 adapter in my generic
386sx-20. I have an ST-296N 83 mb hard drive, and I'd like to
get a second one. Should I expect any problems?
Thanks
45677,02,05/27/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,JOHN SERRANO
R/2 SCSI DRIVES AND OS/2 2.0,
I know people having trouble with an IDE and a SCSI as D, but dunno
about 2 SCSI's. I'll ask around.
45776,07,10/05/92,BENJAMIN COHEN,CLIFF SHARP
R/DISK FORMAT SOFTWARE,
Don't have any suggestions, but one of the things that I have run into is
disks formatted by PS/2s to 1.44 megs WITHOUT the benefit of the second
hole punch that is "standard" for high density 3.5" disks. Apparently,
I'm told, IBM doesn't recognize the IBM/Sony standard in the PS/2s (or at
least didn't originally) and since 'DOS will format to high density
unless you tell it not to, the result is a disk that can't be read
on non PS/2s without punching a hole in them. FUN!
45777,06,10/06/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,CLIFF SHARP
DONATIONS OF COMPUTERS,
The Information Technology Resource Center (ITRC) provides computer
training and assistance to non-profit organizations in the Chicago
area. They have received donations of computers in the past that
they have passed on to some of their member organizations. They
are located at 59 East Van Buren, Suite 2020, Chicago, IL 60605-1219.
Their phone number is (312) 939-8050.
45876,11,11/09/92,ERIC BOHLMAN,ALL
WHAT COULD CAUSE THIS,
A client of mine has a Micropolis 1664 330MB ESDI drive with an Ultrastor
controller card (the one with the small cache), and a Colorado 250 tape
drive with controller (i.e. not using the floppy controller). These were
originally installed in a 386DX-16 system and were moved to a DX-40 some
months ago. Since the transplant, the client noticed that tape backups
were taking significantly longer. While looking into some other things,
I ran Norton SI and got a disk performance index of only 2.9 (the reported
seek time was about right for the drive, but the data transfer rate was
reported as zero) and the test took quite some time to run (no caching
software was installed at the time).
Has anyone run into something like this before?
45877,03,11/09/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ANDY SHAPIRO
AT&T YEAR PROBLEM,
Andy, thanks for your response to my question. I was waiting to
actually change the battery before I thanked you, but I haven't gotten
to it yet. So thanks in advance!
45976,15,12/28/92,MICHAEL SHARTIAG,ALL
LINE NOISE FIXED../MA BELL,
I received a present from Ma bell on Thursay... They left a message on
my answering machine telling me that they had fixed the problem with
my 545/777 connections. There was a problem with the return trunk to
Highland PArk via the Kedzie (and/or possibly another location)
switching station.
I have had 100% error free connections since then. Within 1 week
of asking for a supervisor with each location (HP and Buffalo Grove) I
was able to get an answer other than "we found no problem" and actually
get it fixed.
If anyone else was having line noise problem and its clear now
you were probably feeding back through the above mentioned station. What
nailed the problem down was that any call I made to a 545 or 777 prefix
modem was a bad line.
 on to some of their member organizations. They
are located at 59 East Van Buren, Suite 2020, Chicago, IL 60605-121
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45678,02,05/27/92,BILL MATTSON,BOB LUND
R/6809/FLEX/FOR SALE,
Hi, Bob. Re your 6809 machine...call me at 708-665-9525 in the evening
about it and how much you might want for it. Thanks...
45679,03,05/27/92,ARCADY KHOTIN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
Thanks, Ward , for quick return. It's a pity you are in no mood to write
long messages... Thanks anyway, I understand.
Best regards, Arcady
45778,16,10/06/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,CLIFF SHARP
R/GOOF-PROOFING SYSTEMS,
Cliff, my understanding is that DOS 5 does not require that IBM.SYS and
IBM.BIO reside in the first data clusters on the disk, nor that their
directory entries be the first on the disk. So what you thought was
"skillful damage" may have not been so at all. The real test would be
whether those two files were listed anywhere elsewhere in the directory.
This is not to belittle the "hacker pandemic." A salesman at Elektek says
that people try almost daily to crash the store's demo computers, or erase
files from them.
I'm not clear about the setup at the library you describe. Are you saying
that the public computers are equiped with a hard disk, but that patrons
are not supposed to have access to them? If so, I would consider a
hardware solution: Disable the hard disk by means of a lock-switch. If
you opt instead for a software solution, I would think the computers would
be vulnerable to any patron who brought his own boot diskette.
45779,15,10/06/92,CLIFF SHARP,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/GOOF-PROOFING SYSTEMS,
Well, the IBMBIO.COM and IBMSYS.COM files (?) were definitely missing
from the directory. I had had occasion to look at their directory
previously with DEBUG and noted that they were, indeed, the first two
entries in the directory, and occupied the first clusters on that drive.
That's why I say that whoever did this deed did it very skillfully, since
cluster 2 (which used to belong ot IBMBIO.SYS) now belonged to the DOS
directory.
Since the patrons are indeed allowed access to the hard drives, we
can't just disable them. What I've settled on for the nonce is to remove
ATTRIB.COM from the drives, and use my own program to make the necessary
programs write-protected. But your ideas are VERY much appreciated, as
are those of the other people I haven't yet responded to.
I suppose the best idea is to get them a pair of 21 MB tape backups,
by donation if possible, and enable them to restore the system to its
pre-cracker condition...
45878,07,11/09/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD & BILL & TONY
COMMAND.COM,
The variations of COMMAND.COM have forced me to give up on trying to find
the errorlevel byte in each. What I've done instead is create a TSR that
will intercept all program terminations, and save a copy of the result
code. A non-TSR copy of the same utility can then retrieve the latest result
code on demand and then display it. (Useful for debugging and development
of both programs and *.BAT files.)
Thanks for all your responses.
45879,15,11/09/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD & ALL
WIERD PROBLEM SOLVED.,
I recently installed DOS 5.0 on my original IBM AT (1984 BIOS). It
worked fine except for one peculiar problem: It wouldn't boot from
a 3.5" drive, even though I transferred the system to the diskette
as specified in the DOS manual. "Big deal," you say; "the BIOS is
too old." That's what a techie at the store where I bought DOS 5.0
said. The only thing is, DOS 3.1, 3.2, and 3.3 would all boot from
a 3.5" diskette under the same hardware configuration! Even tech
support at Microsoft was baffled.
Turns out the problem was the boot sector on the diskette. For
some reason, the disk parameter block (which describes the diskette
format to the ROM-BIOS during a boot and also at other times) had
one bad parameter: The hidden sectors value. Instead of the 0000
which is normal for diskettes, it had a value of 8000! Don't know
how that value got there; but changing it solved the boot problem--
and hasn't caused any other problems yet (knock wood).
45978,05,12/29/92,ALEX ZELL,STEVE MOYZIS
HELP,NONO
There is no one here who answers to the label "sysop." Ward
Christensen runs this BBS. You are welcome to address him as "Ward."
Did you read the Welcome message when you logged on? Did you try
typing "h" or "help" or "help keywords" at the prompt. Capture the
welcome message ("W" at the prompt) and read it carefully.
45979,04,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
Ah, I see. But I'm moving only ONE directory to that directory's
\unused directory. Thus no naming convention dup problems can occur.
Thanks for the explanation.
I use aliases a lot, too!
yte in each. What I've done instead is create
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45680,12,05/27/92,GREGORY ARENA,SYSOP
JUST DROPPING BY..,
Hi, there, I was just dropping by.. Saw your system's number in an
old issue of Boardwatch magazine, and I wanted to see what the the
first BBS system looks like. I see you have been here for many years
whereas I have just gotten into the business of sysoping a year ago.
Very nice system and hope to see it last!
I also want to ask, is BBS advertising permitted? Since you have users
interested in programming, they may be interested in my system (a
programming-oriented system).
Type to ya later!
Gregory Arena Sysop, Programming Lynk (609) 582-4753 D/S
45681,05,05/27/92,RICHARD GOZDAL,ALL
MS C,
Anyone else get the MS C/C++ 7.0 & Windows SDK 3.1 offer in the
mail for $139 (plus S/H and tax)?
Sounds good to me, especially with the graphics tools I have
(multi language). Called around and even Egghead won't carry that
locally with the special price, have to get it from MS.
45780,03,10/06/92,CLIFF SHARP,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/DONATIONS OF COMPUTERS,
Roy, THANK YOU for the tip. I will call them today and see if they
might have some spare tape backups. (I will also keep them in mind if
I find a benificent donor who might have some "obsolete" equipment.)
45781,18,10/06/92,CLIFF SHARP,MURRAY ARNOW
R/BOOKS,
I kinda figured that those books, being as valuable as they were, would
be really difficult to get. Unfortunately, the SLS, which got the books
on loan for me, is running into financial difficulties and now has to
charge a $10 fee for taking a book from one library to another, so I may
not get another chance at them for some time to come.
I was REALLY surprised at the statement in the "Vacuum" book that not
only X-rays, but electron bombardment, can cause outgassing! No small
wonder the getter is needed. As for other incidental knowledge I gleaned
from those tomes, I always thought Pyrex glass was a trademark for a
glass that was resistant to cracking on expansion by temperature changes,
and noted in a footnote that "Pyrex" is actually a generic term for any
of 150 different glasses.
BTW, it also improved my conversational ability with a friend who's
a plastics expert; now I can understand what he's saying to a better
extent, and I can even provide him with an occasional bit of knowledge
he didn't have! Neat.
If for some reason you find any of those books in a used book store,
PLEASE let me know immediately! Thanks for the tips; VERY good reading.
45880,15,11/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN
R/SUBJECT: AN INTERVIEW W/ WAR,
HI, sorry I am seeing your questions for the first time - I just got back
from an out-of-town trip to the "Hacker's Convention" that is an invitation-
only conference among industry pioneers, etc. I was really humbled by the
list of folks there.
You are asking when a good time to ask a few questions would be. Well,
it would have been days ago when your first called! A BBS is a way for
people to be in contact without having to be on the phone. SO, please ASK
your questions at YOUR convenience, and I'll answer them at MY convenience.
YOU don't even have to take notes then - you'll have verbatim quotes. So
when would be a good time to talk? Right now for the time being there
wouldn't be a good time. ...by VOICE... but ANY time is FINE by modem
to CBBS.
Also though I don't plan to call, I wouldn't even if I wanted to - you
didn't leave an area code and I'm not about to "try" to see where you might
live! Owell, gotta run.
45881,03,11/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDREI SCHEINKMAN
CBBS,
By the way, "Subject:" is part of - if you stop to think about it logically -
the header information CBBS supplies, you don't have to put it in YOUR
subject.
45980,06,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/LINE NOISE FIXED../MA BELL,
Hey, congrats on solving the line noise problems! Illibelltelco
comes thru! It would be nice to find the exact person who fixed it
for you - the way I knew who fixed my problem - and at least phone
in a personal "thank you". Phones ARE something we take for granted -
like power, energy (gasoline, natural gas), water, toilet paper, etc
(grin).
45981,08,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,STEVE MOYZIS
CPM-86/80,
Sorry, you left no msg. Please try again. Leave a msg for ALL or
for "Ward". CBBS' editor is quite easy - type, backspace to correct,
press enter on a blank line to go to the edit sub-menu, from which you
can re-type lines, or do a char substitution (/old/new/ type) fixes, etc.
Please don't ask me to call. I don't return calls very often.
P.S. I've never used CP/M-86, but did of course use a LOT of CP/M-80,
and as a matter of fact, this BBS is still running in 8080 code, though
admittedly on a PC running a CP/M-80 emulator.
pioneers, etc. I was really humbl
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45683,04,05/27/92,RICHARD HINTON,ALL
MOTHER BOARD?,
Am thinking of jumping to a 33 from a 16 mHz 386, but with
another manufacturer's board (Vektron). The price for a
-386-33 with 8 meg is $530.00. Is it worth jumping
to the 33 from the 16? Richard Hinton
45782,03,10/06/92,CLIFF SHARP,BENJAMIN COHEN
R/DISK FORMAT SOFTWARE,
I've noticed this phenomenon with a bit of glee; isn't it interesting
when IBM comes out with non-IBM-compatible computers? Think back to the
first IBM portable... :-)
45783,02,10/06/92,MURRAY ARNOW,CLIFF SHARP
R/BOOKS,
You may have some luck investigating the used book stores around the
University of Chicago. Best wishes...
45882,10,11/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,TONY ANTONUCCI
R/FAX,
Hey, that Faxability sounds cool - especially the OCR.
Tell me, is there a simple editor shipped with it? One problem I saw
was if you faxed something into your system, in order to fax it out (i.e.
you wanted a graphic image but didn't have a scanner) then you were sending
out a fax with YOUR INCOMING header on it. A simple editor to chop that
off would be useful.
I realize that since you said it could be saved in a bunch of formats,
you could drop it into, say, PC Paintxxx but that would be an extra step,
and come to think of it, an 8.5" wide 200-dpi image by 11" long (or
longer) would be quite LARGE and ungainley to "quickly edit".
45883,02,11/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BOB SULLIVAN
R/MODEM PROBLEM,
How about slowing down the speed at which you send the ATDT - i.e.
send it at about 10 char/sec? I can do that in my current COMM program.
45982,03,12/30/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
Ward, you mention that you use aliases. Are you using 4DOS? If
so, I have a neat .BTM file that sets up the DeskJet...if you're
interested.
45983,03,12/30/92,MORT MOSS,ALL
SEAGATE DRIVE,
c
have two (2) seagate st-251 40meg drive 14mos old i wish to sell
please call 708-675-3194
ormats,
you could drop it into, say, PC Paintxxx but that would be an extra st
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45684,02,05/27/92,MURRAY ARNOW,ALL
CHICAGO ONLINE,
I just received a flyer to join Chicago Online. It is apparently a Tribune
connected BBS. Anybody have any further information to share?
45685,03,05/27/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,GREGORY ARENA
R/JUST DROPPING BY..,
Dear Sysuser:
Sure, an ad for your BBS would be welcome. Just leave out the "noise",
i.e. my preference is for no ***'s, ---'s, etc. Just info. ;-)
45785,07,10/07/92,JIM POLOUS,ALL
TELNET/FTP ACCESS,@@@@
Can anyone inform me of any service LOCAL to the Chicago area
which provides TELNET or FTP access to the Internet? I have
a subscription to WORLD (Software Tool and Die) as well
as EMAIL capabilities, however, I would like off-prime TELNET if
possible.. Thanks in advance,
Jim Polous
polous@ymcausa.chi.il.us
45884,22,11/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/WIERD PROBLEM SOLVED.,
That (8000 as the # if reserved sectors or whatever it was) IS
very strange! I should shoot you a copy of my DISKPARM program that
quickly dumps the disk parm block off of any floppy or hard disk:
DiskParm 9/10/88 by Ward Christensen
Defaults to A: drive, or specify a drive: DiskParm c:
00 02 01 01 00 02 E0 00 40 0B F0 09 00 12 00 02 00 00 00
~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~
512 bytes per sector
1 sectors per cluster
1 reserved sector
2 copies of fat
224 root entries
2880 sectors per disk
F0 media descriptor
9 sectors per fat
18 sectors per track
2 heads
0 hidden sectors
Actually if there were an 8000 in hidden sectors or reserved sectors,
I don't know if it would say "32768" or not! But the HEX part would have
shown you it anyway (I wrote it sort of as a tutorial, i.e. so you could
see the hex corresponding to the appropriate decimal values).
45984,08,12/30/92,BILL MATTSON,WARD
MODEM PROBLEMS,
Ward, have been having problems getting into CBBS recently. Last night
and again today. Not Compuserve, Ward Board, NOWAR...just CBBS. Seems
to answer OK then either never sync up, or the link is actually made but
the parameters aren't right. Changing the comm parameters on my end
interactively doesn't seem to help. I get garbage at 2400, 1200, 8, 7,
1, none, odd, even, etc. (I always come in at 2400, 8, 1, & none) Tonight
I got in without problems, but when I called back to leave this message
I had trouble. Could be my modem, but seems isolated to CBBS??!
45985,07,12/30/92,BILL MATTSON,ALL
MSC 7.0 & IBM C SET/2,
Any body have a handy converter to allow easy correlation of MSC 7.0
window functions to C Set/2? I'm looking for some kind of cross reference
between the two from hard copy. Migrating seems to be pretty mysterious
some times. Has such a document ever come to light? On a related topic,
anybody had any fun chasing undeclared extern's that pop into the error
log for C Set/2 compiles/links of migrated code that you thought would
compile without a hitch?

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45686,03,05/27/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,RICHARD GOZDAL
R/MS C,
I've got some connections, so while I didn't get the offer, I got the
SOFTWARE. Nearly got a hernia lifting the box! Even comes with 386^max,
because I understand the environment needs a memory manager!
45687,10,05/27/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,RICHARD HINTON
R/MOTHER BOARD?,
That's a pretty good price. You of course WILL double your perf, but
it will make you want a faster/larger hard disk, etc. Go ahead and
check what a 486/33 would cost, too! It will be double AGAIN the
performance, and a few hundred spent now might be cheaper than spending
more next year to go 486. They really HAVE come down in price. (But you're
getting a steal - if memory is say $35/meg, that's $280 of your $530 just
for memory - leaving $250 for the motherboard. Hmm. TOO cheap. No cache?
(you're not halving the memory speed when you double the processor, so
you need something else to make it faster - my 386/sx/25 has no cache,
but has memory interleaving, which effectively is faster.)
45786,25,10/09/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
LAP/PALM SHOW,
Spent most of two days at the Lap/Palm show in Chicago - Thurs & Fri.
The most interesting box I saw was from Gateway - a 2.75# sub-notebook,
with 400-line (double-scan CGA), 40M hard disk, (an ultra-thin 2.5"er)
etc. $1295 direct. I've got details if you're interested.
IBM showed off its new line of machines: all are called "Thinkpad", which
is dumb, because that makes you think of the "pad" - i.e. pen based one.
The 300 is a 5.9# monochrome machine, with 80 ($1375) or 120 ($1575)
hard disk, 4M ram, ethernet ($125 (ea.) adapter cable for 10baseT or
thinnet), and a REALLY NEAT "port replicator" which allows you to hang
your cables off of the back of this 1.5" thick thingie - serial, parallel,
power, VGA, mouse, keyboard - and quickly connect or disconnect all, with
a simple motion.
The 300 is a 386SL at 25mhz with 64K cache.
The 700 line is the IBM 486SLC (a 16-bit I/O (bad) 16K cache (Good!)
chip made by IBM based upon Intel licensing) running at 25MHz, with an
upgrade available to the 25/50 chip. An 80M machine goes for $2700, and
120M for $2950 (if I'm recalling right).
The 700C is a Beeeautiful 10.4 (largest in the industry, I think!) color
active matrix 486SLC - goes for 4300 or so - anticipated street of $4k.
The 700C was so agressively priced (this is with 3-year on-site warranty!)
that other machines like the 300C just "fell out of the line".
----
Other interesting things - there are now several vendors of GPS hardware
and software so if for example you're into sailing, you can tell exactly
where you are at any time. Pretty slick. (Didn't get prices).
45787,10,10/10/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,ALL
ALL COMMAND.COM'S IDENTICAL?,
Is there only one identical edition of COMMAND.COM found in MS-DOS 5.0
(and PC-DOS 5.0), no matter which OEM distributes that DOS? Is the same
true for DOS 3.1? 3.2? 3.3? 4.0?
The reason I ask is that I've developed a utility that locates the
errorlevel storage area in COMMAND.COM, retrieves that errorlevel, and
then displays it. I've done this for my copies of COMMAND.COM for the
above versions (except 4.0). Before releasing this utility, I'd like
to be sure that it's universally usable.
If anyone is interested in having this utility work for DOS 4.0 also,
or for DR DOS, let me know.
45886,17,11/09/92,ALEX ZELL,ALL
INTERNET ACCESS,NONO
Direct accesss to the Internet is available to members of the various
university communities, and is not generally available to "outsiders."
The University of Chicago was rather generous about it for a long time,
but recently closed access to all but a few outsiders. Even alumnii
were not spared.
Chinet, which sits on the same desk as this CBBS, offers indirect
access in the form of news and email. (News is now received via
satellite.)
Direct access to Internet is available through other non-commercial
as well as commercial providers. Unfortunately for Chicago residents,
the nearest non-commercial providers I know of are Merit/MichNet and
CICNet, both of Ann Arbor, Mich and Netillinois and CICNet, both in
Urbana.
I believe the least costly commercial provider with access via a
phone number in downtown Chicago is Holonet, 46 Shattuck Sq., Berkeley,CAl.
94704. Voice: 510-704-0160; FAX: 510-704-8019. Email: info@holonet.net
45887,05,11/09/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD/ALL
DESKJET EXPERIENCES,
OK, I'm about to buy a printer -- my 8 year old Oki'92 is at death's
door. The DeskJet 500 looks good to me, and I kno Ward is a fan,\
SO: What should I know about before plunking $400 or so for it? I've
heard that the beasty can be refilled with a syringe and fountain-pen
ink, too -- is this true?
45986,11,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
No, not using 4DOS - instead, CED. I don't want anything "too"
different - I don't have those environments when on "other people's
machines" etc. heh.
I don't have a deskjet on my "main" machine, but actually I DID
set up a little program to initialize the DeskJet - I put in all the
normal fonts, densities, etc, that I use, and can cursor to one and
hit space, it sends that setup. I wrote it in Pmate editor macors,
and even saved it as a custom 28K version of Pmate called FS - Font
Select. heh. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like
a nail. When you have an EXCELLENT programmable editor like Pmate,
everything looks like an "editor" solvable problem.
45987,09,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL MATTSON
R/MODEM PROBLEMS,
The only thing that comes to mind on the modem problems is that at times
it seems to connect at the wrong speed. If I get a "connect 1200" then
I just hang up and call back - I get 2400 that next time and everything
works fine from there on out. It has to do with my having spent a lot
of time customizing the answer sequences for an HST, but then having the
HST die, and putting another (I think USR) 2400 modem on, which isn't
a "perfect" match.
If it were in my house, it would be easier to work on, but being in
Chicago, it isn't.
et, both of Ann Arbor, Mich and Netillinois and CICNet, both in
Urbana.
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45688,10,05/28/92,RICHARD GOZDAL,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/MS C,
Yea, looks like 6,000 pages of manual with the MS C!
Guess the prices is right. Something is up with MS, The Basic
PDS is down to a $99 upgrade price from QB. Must be more than
poor software sales, must be a language war.
Guess I must have lucked out the mem manager I got with my 386
works great and one less pgm to worry about trying to handle it.
Maybe the hidden message with this sale is IF people will pay
the $150 for "printed" manuals for the Windows docs rather than
the on line docs. That would give them a better taste of what
people will pay for Windows software.
45788,04,10/10/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ROY LIPSCOMB
R/ALL COMMAND.COM'S IDENTICAL?,
DIR of my DOS 5.0 command.com is:
COMMAND COM 47845 04-09-91 5:00a
This is for MS-DOS Version 5.00.
If I remember I'll try to check at work for IBM-PC-DOS.
45789,05,10/10/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,TONY ANTONUCCI
MODEM/FAX CARD,
Which card did you get? I'm not "very" interested in Fax, but there
are times when it would be nice. Actually I just - perhaps foolishly -
bought a Hayes Optima 9600, and didn't spend the extra to go get Fax
with it.
What are you using for Software?
45888,15,11/10/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/DESKJET EXPERIENCES,
Yep, you can refill a Deskjet cartridge with a syringe and fountain-pen
ink. There are even "kits" for the less-ambitious.
There are 2 kinds of cartridges - regular (original recipe) and high-
capacity. The original are easier to refill because the interior is just
a sponge saturated with ink. The high-capacity ones have some other kind
of bladder that pushes the ink out, and the hole in the top of the cart,
unlike the original cartridge, does NOT go into the ink reservoir!
The printer isn't PERFECT - you won't QUITE get as good a graphics as
from a laser - just a teeny bit of banding perhaps, but compared to any
dot matrix printer - well, it blows 'em away.
Perhaps I should sell you my old DJ500C (color!) printer and buy myself
one of the new $800 ones that has both black AND tri-color at the same
time (Vs the 500C that can take them, but only one at a time). I Kind of
did that with my older deskjet - gave it (a Plus) to my brother, when I
bought the 500c.
45889,06,11/10/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
LINE NOISE?,
How is your experience with Line Noise? Michael Shartiag is having a
lot, can't really communicate. If you are having problems, please indicate
from where you are calling. I call MNP so don't see it, but my echoes back
are pretty quick - while if MNP were correcting it would slow down. I
can NOT go 9600 baud (well, I don't have an HST - had to donate it to CBBS)
but when I did, I couldn't communicate with CBBS, had to go 2400..
45988,05,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
NEW TOYS?,
Anyone get any new computer or electronic toys for Xmas? My Brother,
thanks to me, got a Sharp 5200 pocket memo. I broke the "whisk" that
I use for making pancakes, and asked Santa, but he gave me a rechargeable
4-"tool" electric whisk. Worked fine, heh, especially the plastic blade,
to mix up some spackling compound (grin).
45989,07,12/30/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL MATTSON
R/MSC 7.0 & IBM C SET/2,
Sorry, my C-SET has mostly - SET. Were you using real Windows calls?
Didn't that require an SDK? I guess Cset doesn't need the SDK, or sort
of "you can think of it as THE SDK"?
I "panicked" and bought it before the price went up but in retrospect
dunno if I'll use it or not...
Right now I need some ideas on cleaning up my hard disk. I've got 520M
but it is VERY cluttered - too many versions of too many programs.
nd
of
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45690,30,05/29/92,JERRY OLSEN,ARCADY KHOTIN
R/HELLO FROM RUSSIA,
I was delighted to see your messages here.
Most of my work these days involves writing for computer magazines,
including a column about international computer issues which is
syndicated in England and Australia. Because of this I have set up and
keep in contact with about 300 sources around the world.
Through that process I of course have learned quite a bit about some of
the questions you raised in your first message here--too much for a
single message, in fact. We could continue exchanging messages here, if
you plan to continue calling; but I sometimes can't call here for weeks
at a time.
One option might be to use my BBS (in the same city as this one) at
312-939-4411 (up to 2400 bps), which I monitor several times each day.
Another possibility might be via Internet, which you mentioned. But it
will depend what local node you use to access Internet. Some nodes in the
Commonwealth countries are extremely expensive--not for you, but for us
in the States. The reason is that WE get billed for messages to you AND
from you--and all are quite expensive. So if you currently have personal
access to Internet, you might leave your Internet address here or on my
BBS. I'll respond with one message on Internet despite the costs. (I'm
sorry to be particularly concerned about this, but with the large network
of international callers I constantly maintain at my own expense, I must
be!)
I look forward to hearing from you and exchanging messages, whether here
or elsewhere. I'll respond to some of your questions and perhaps you
would be kind enough to respond to some of mine for use in my column.
Best wishes.
45691,14,05/29/92,JERRY OLSEN,BILL WOLFF
INTERNET,JWOA
Just a quick addition to your comments, in case others try to use them....
From CIS and other systems, you must remember to precede the
Internet address with a ">" redirection symbol--followed IMMEDIATELY by
"INTERNET:....." (A few systems will generate the redir symbol for you
and remove extraneous spaces, but CIS doesn't.)
Secondly, you of course correctly showed the correct address
format for messages back TO CIS (other than the ">INTERNET:" preface
which most systems require that you enter manually), but it bears
emphasis that the comma in all CIS addresses must be changed to the
period which Internet understands. (Most systems WILL do this
conversion for you <smile>.)
On a separate note, glad to hear the IDE woes you mentioned here
and on my BBS are fixed.
Regards.
45790,01,10/11/92,BILL CLOHERTY,ALL
CRC-32 (CCITT),
Can anyone give the slow algorithm for CRC-32 (CCITT)?
45791,03,10/11/92,BILL CLOHERTY,ROY LIPSCOMB
COMMAND.COM,
COMMAND.COM for DOS 3.3 is 25644 bytes long and is
dated 7/26/90 3:00 PM. 32 bit CRC is A95CFB19.
What position in the module is the error level located?
45890,21,11/10/92,AL HIGGINS,ALL
INTERGATED VOICE,DEVO
Does anyone out ther have any experience with PC add-in cards that will
provide Voice Mail??? I have found several products recently, however,
I have found verry little discussion in the trade mag. discussing the
topic. The vendors I've found are:
Prometheus - The Home Office. $299 or 539
The Complete PC - The Complete Ans. Machine $399
Natural MicroSystems - Watson - $249
Talking Technology- Big Mouth $ 295
Most of these cards provide the basic answering machine tasks, have a
built in modem and some can do FAX sending. What I'm looking for is
a board that will allow me to provide a general greeting, followed by
an option message, based upon the message, the customer will be able
to input a selection (1-4) for a more detailed msg. I have the MFG
technical data sheets on all the products, however they all clame to
perform just about the same features. (Except Big Mouth it can perform
outbound telemarketing).
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated bucause i'm at the point
I need to make a decision and purchase one of them.... If anyone would
be intrested in the results once I've purchased one, I'd be more than
happy to share the experience with them....
- Reguards! -
45990,18,12/31/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DISK CLEANUP TIP,
CED -- OK, but it can't do what 4DOS does! But on the other hand, you're
right. When I'm working on someone else's machine, it's a PAIN not to
have the stuff I'm used to.
The BMT file I set up for 4DOS sets up the DJ500 in a neat way (I think):
It gives you a menu for basic functions (reset to [my] defaults, set
margin, do an envelope, or choose a font). If you do 'choose a font,'
you get a drop-down menu of all the useful fonts (internal and those
in the Prestige Elite cart), and just highlight one to load it.
I really like the DJ, but HP's PCL is a royal pain at times. Order of
commands is a real big factor. Having the ability to just pick a font
off a menu makes it a whole lot easier to deal with.
I keep hearing about PMATE, BTW. It sounds nice. I use MicroEMACS
for my main editor/word processor/etc, and recently added a macro to
call a high-speed text searcher (MasterFind) and dump the search results
to a new buffer. You're right -- given a good hammer...
45991,07,12/31/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD
RE: TOYS,
I didn't get one, but I saw today a little Casio 4300 'pocket book.'
It's nice. For $69 you only get 32K, but the keyboard is good, th
the whole thing is SMALL (REALLY the size of a pocket calendar, not
a day-runner), and you can hook it up to a PC. If I had the $$ right
now I think that
is the way I would go. Oh yes -- the screen is quite readable, too,
and it has a QWERTY layout.
stomer will be able
to input a selection (1-4) for a more
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45692,02,05/29/92,BILL WOLFF,JERRY OLSEN
IDE TROUBLE OVER,
Thanks and never a dull moment trying something new to work with
something you already have. I guess it's just comes with the job!
45693,23,05/29/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/COMPUADD EXPRESS,
of course i could do that, but I have no need, nor budget. More
to the point, havinf this old creature feature at home helps me
to appreciate the 386 at work. you mentioned 'memory
interleave' in another posting -- what's this, and how does it
speed things up?
On another note -- I can't imagine working without DR DOS 6.0!
I will never go back to
MS-DOS. The memory features are nice, the disk cache is quite good,
and the task switcher makes even bad software look good.
For example -- the American Heritage Dictionary (AHED). It comes with two
versions, both TSR. One is small, but activating it just loads
up a large program from disk, so it's SLOW. Then there's a second TSR
that gets you into AHED fast, but which eats some 150+K. So whaty
do you do? With the DRDOS task switcher, you just load AHED as a
task and swap it out to extended memory. Then, when you need it, it's
easy as pie to switch tasks, the whole thing is there NOW, and it takes
no memory away from your real session. IT's cute. It also
works well for debugging -- if a program locks up the machine, all it's
really locked up is the one task session, and you can terminate that
and still have a functioning system. Try it -- it's
so much better than MS-DOS that there is no comparison. Of course,
with 4DOS on top, it's even better...
45792,02,10/11/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BILL CLOHERTY
R/CRC-32 (CCITT),
What is that particular CRC used in? Might be easier to find if I
knew in what context it was used. Thanks!
45892,04,11/10/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,MIKE WISNIEWSKI
FILES?,
Nope. CBBS was never for file transfer. On a single-line system, it
ties things up too much, so when Randy & I invented the BBS, it didn't do
file transfers, even though I'd invented what became XMODEM about 6
months before. Sorry.
45893,10,11/11/92,AL HIGGINS,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/INTERGATED VOICE,
My wife has started a small business, and produceses several different
products. We've tryed an answering machine and that doesn't work..... People
that are calling for product A dont want to listen to a short script for
product B or C. Likewise, people who are calling for everyday business
related activities DO NOT Want to listen to the advertising......
Based upon that, I thought the easiest way to sole the problem would
be to use a interactive voice card. I have the sapre PC so I can use
it for voice messaging and faxing and unload my other machine of those tasks
And last bt not least, the PC add in cards are economical as compared to
the commercial units range from aprox. $5,000 to $50,000.
45992,02,12/31/92,BENJAMIN COHEN,MICHAEL SHARTIAG
R/LASERJET 4M,
Funny, I was at an office last week where there was a big box that
said LaserJet 4M on it. When was the hold released...\
45993,11,12/31/92,BENJAMIN COHEN,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/NEW TOYS?,
Actually got a few weeks ago, Zoom V.32bis fax-modem. Seems to work nicely,
though I haven't yet tried out the fax receiving software. A friend of
mine got a USR Sportster: the furnished software won't send out a fax
that has been received. He tried WinFaxPro, but I'm the only one who
can send him a fax from a fax machine; others have tried but the software
refuses to accept them! Zoom provided MTEZ, which seems to work reasonably
well. I used WordStar 7's fax printer driver, which has the same fonts
as a LaserJet 3. It 'prints' the file to a PCX file and MTEZ nicely
converts that to a fax. And downloading at 14.4 yields about 1600 cps
vs about 230 at 2400 (as reported by ProComm). 'Tis a joy to the
phone bill....
 WISNIEWSKI
FILES?,
Nope. CBBS was never for file transfer. On a single-line syst
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45694,09,05/30/92,JOHN SERRANO,ALL
PD TCP/IP FOR FTP?,BLAH
I'm looking for a public domain version of TCP/IP that features the
following items: SLIP and automatic dialing (to dial the terminal
server). I guess FTP is a given.
Does such a creature exist? I downloaded a package from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.
edu, but it only works with network adapters, not modems. Does anyone
know of an ftp site that has what I need?
Thanks.
45695,05,05/30/92,GERRY SWANSON,ALL
MANDELBROT,DIRK
I have been using the book "The Armchair Universe" by A.K. Dewdney. I a
ing to make a program that lets you zoom in on the "Mandelbrot Set" fractal
As far as his program describes it I am doing everything he says. If
anyone knows how to make the program (in basic) or has the book tell me.
I have the IBM compatible GW-Basic.
45794,15,10/12/92,ROY LIPSCOMB,WARD/BILL CLOHERTY
R/ALL COMMAND.COM'S IDENTICAL?,
Ward, my DOS 5.0 also has COMMAND.COM AS 47845 bytes,
but the date/time is 11-11-91 5:00.
Bill, my DOS 3.3 COMMAND.COM (Zenith) is listed as
25532 in length (vs your 25644). In my edition of DOS 3.3
COMMAND.COM, the errorlevel is at offset 0BEA
(when COMMAND.COM is loaded. The file offset is
100H less).
Incidentally, to locate that byte, I used a trick
Ward suggested years ago for locating the USER
byte in the CP/M BDOS: Set the USER to one value,
copy the BDOS, set the USER to another value, copy
the BDOS again, compare the two copies to find
the byte that differs and reflects the two USER
values that you individually set.
Thanks for your responses.
45795,09,10/13/92,DANIEL EVANS,RANDY SUESS
QUESTION ON GUEST ACCESS,
Randy,
When you have guest access on 283-0559, (login evans) I don't quite
understand if guests can post to the net at all (or just on
weekends). Your message on this was not clear to me.
If I want to post do I need contributor access, or are guests just
limited to certain time slots? My internet address is
evans@ihlpm.att.com.
Thanks for the help.
Dan
45894,05,11/11/92,AL HIGGINS,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/INTERGATED VOICE,
By the way, do you still have the voice card or did you sell it?
If you did sell it, is there anyone in Chicago that sells this type
of product? The MFG refered me to Comp USA, they don't know what I'm
talking about nor does Tiger Software. Guess I'll have to make some more
phone calls! Thanks...
45895,05,11/11/92,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/DESKJET EXPERIENCES,
Well, how much would you want? I'm serious, a money IS a consideration,
and I trust you took good are of the critter. Remember that one of us
would have to pay shipping to upstate NY. If you'd really be willing
to sell the printer, call me at (518) 382-1880, evenings, until 11:00
Eastern time. Thanks!
45994,06,01/02/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,BENJAMIN COHEN
R/NEW TOYS?,
I, too, got a Sportster 2400/9600 modem (for work), and WinFaxPro, but
it would NOT work under OS/2. I understand release 3 should work, but
instead I took it back and bought PM FAX, which I've not had time to try.
MTEZ is kind of funny - not sure I understand it. I know that higher
levels of MNP implement synchronous transfer, to avoid the time wasted
by sending start and stop bits, and obviously software can't do that.
45995,08,01/02/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/RE: TOYS,
I gave my brother a Sharp 5200 for Xmas - the only reason I did was
that he was interested in a "Brother" or "Royal" or some "off" brand,
that was about as big, but not as full featured. This way I can
back his up (occasionally) when I visit, etc. Also I can help him with
usage tips (and he taught me a thing or two by more patiently reading
the book).
SMALL - "really small" - would be a distinct advantage - and being able
to hook to a PC is important (but typically, expensive: nearly $100).
 message on this was not clear to me.
If I want to post do I need contributor access, or are guests just
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45696,20,05/30/92,JOE SEROCKI,ALL
LAPTOP FOR SALE,OPIE
I have a Zenith laptop for sale or trade. This is the 184 series,
8088, 640k, CGA compatible graphics, 20m hard drive and 720k floppy,
1200 baud internal modem.
It is in excellent shape, with a new hard drive and controller card,
and new battery pack.
It operates on internal batteries or 12vdc, making it an excellent packet
rig. Includes soft case, power supply, and battery pack.
I figure it's value to be about $500 or so. It would not be so much except
that all the critical parts are new.
I am looking to sell it outright (preferrably) or to trade it for an
HF rig of some sort. The rig must be 12vdc, can be a QRP rig such
as the Ten-Tec Century 22 or Heath HW9 series (with a little cash or ??
thrown in) or a low end HF rig such as the 747GX, 725, 730 or so.
If are interested in a purchase or trade, I can be reached at
708-632-8723 or at N9IFG@W9ZMR.IL.USA.NA. Thanks es 73, Joe... .-.
45697,03,06/01/92,GERRY SWANSON,ROGER PENROSE
R/QUERY ABOUT BBS'S,
Temporal Insanity is great. I can be reached there under the handle "Dirk
Gently." The other two didn't work (Busy Signal.
Thanks
45796,04,10/13/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,DANIEL EVANS
R/QUESTION ON GUEST ACCESS,
Sorry, Randy doesn't call in here any more (compared to chinet, it
is "boring").
I don't THINK any non-contributor has access to the internet, but I'll
pass your msg along to him when I call chinet this evening.
45797,06,10/13/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ERIC BOHLMAN
9600 BAUD,
I know it isn't all that fast (because of local echoing of the screen)
but is 9600 working OK for you? At CBBS' 12th or so anniversary, USR gave
me two HST 9600s, one for CBBS, one for me. Randy "usurped" one when
CBBS died, and I had to give mine up to get CBBS going again, so I can
no longer get in over 2400, and am just wondering if it is OK.
Thanks!
45896,03,11/11/92,DON COLEMAN,ALL
XEROX 2040 PRINTER HELP,
I have a Xerox 2040 Printer and I cant make it work with Windows 3.x.
Does anyone out there have any info, MANUALS, etc to help. Any info
would be most appreciated!!! Thanks.. Don Coleman.
45996,07,01/02/93,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ELI LEHRER
INTERVIEW,
Tell me more about the "research", please. Ask a few questions, I'll
respond online. Kind of burned out on the interview process, what with
having invented BBSs (and coined the term "BBS"). I DO presume you know
this is the worlds first BBS, about to celebrate its 15th anniversary
in February.
What is your research for? A write-up? A magazine? Club newsletter?
Where is 203?
45997,06,01/02/93,BILL MATTSON,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/MSC 7.0 & IBM C SET/2,
No, I was referring to use of equivalent calls in each of the two systems,
MSC SDK, and IBM C Set/2. There seems to be similarity, as one would
expect, but still lots of naming difference to keep us busy. Not calls
for Windows, but window calls as in window function calls, handles,
creates, messages, etc. I have the SDK also, and have found some of
Microsoft's sample programs to be more functionally complete than IBM's.
I can be reached there under the handle "Dirk
Gently." The other two did
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45699,05,06/01/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,GERRY SWANSON
R/MANDELBROT,
Gee, do you have a VGA? You ought to get Fractint. It is an incredibly
fast fractal program, available on most of the boards. Actually it will
run on a CGA even (I've used it on an XT-compatible laptop, years ago)
and the features are just outstanding. The speed makes it practical to
do a lot with it.
45798,01,10/14/92,MURRAY ARNOW,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/9600 BAUD,
9600 is working fine for me.
45799,05,10/15/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ALL
DATA ON FM SUBCARRIER?,
I thought I once heard something about data being broadcast on those
SCA thingies (Sub Carier Authority) - like how Muzak gets broadcast?
Anyone have any details?
P.S. CBBS co-founder Randy Suess just got a satellite hookup for
the news feed for his Unix system!
45898,12,11/11/92,WARD CHRISTENSEN,ANDY SHAPIRO
R/DESKJET EXPERIENCES,
Upstate NY? I'd forgotten!
I'm going to a meeting tomorrow where I might commit a lot of funds,
I'll probably just keep what I've got - it is pretty new and lightly
utilized, so I should probably just keep using it instead of pressing
my nose on ElekTek's window looking @ THE DJ550C...
Gee, just went to see what t new one would cost - the doggone ElekTek
has the DJ as "fair traded" or whatever it is that makes it NOT a catalog
item!
Lets assume I'm just going to keep it - if something comes up soon that
makes me want to go to the new one (like a particular task better suited
to the mixed black/color environment) I'll see if you've done something
else or not.
45899,02,11/12/92,ROBERTO IRWIN,ALL
LAPTOPS & MONITOR FOR SALE,
Tandy TRS-80 models 100 & 200 w/modems, 1400 laptop two disk drive and mode
m, Tandy CM5 color monitor for sale. Cheap! call 312 929-0258 ask for Rob.
45998,09,01/02/93,ANDY SHAPIRO,WARD CHRISTENSEN
R/RE: TOYS,
Yeah. You're right about the PC hookup -- I was amazed
when I saw the price (today). Still, it's a really nice little
critter. Keyboard has little rubber keys, a one-time SHIFT as well
as a CAPS LOCK. Everything beeps when you hit it, don't know if it
can be silenced, but the beep is nice with something that small. The
screen was good and I THINK it had adjustable contrast. Once nice
feature (from my point of view) was that there was nothing electronic
in the TOP of the case -- it was just a door, with some instructions
pasted in it. That helps make this a thin little unit.
45999,10,01/03/93,TONY ANTONUCCI,WARD & ALL
TOYS,
I got a Fotoman (actually I bought it a few weeks before Xmas). Takes
up to 32 pictures (Black & White) which then download into the computer
via a serial link. You use a Windows program to preview & edit them.
Pretty nice. Needless to say this years Xmas cards included the dreaded
Xmas letter With PICTURES! I'm learning there is quite difference in
taking photos with the Fotoman then a real camera.
It will be making an appearance at the CBBS birthday party. I would like
to know if anyone will be bringing a laptop/notebook that is capable
of running Windows?? If so I will bring the software and we can view/edit
the pictures...right away! Perhaps a "group" photo of those that attend!
ng @ THE DJ550C...
Gee, just went to see what t new one would cost - the doggone ElekTek
has the DJ as "fair traded