textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1989/890505.ch

CBBS(R) 4.0.3a
05/05/89 23:28:53
++LINE >   9  LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: 
WHAT IS^U
?^U
?^U
?ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
++LINE >   9  LONG - truncated, return to ACCEPT, ^U to RE-ENTER: 
CHRISTENS^U
?

Y/N: want CBBS "1st time user" info?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss

Logging name to disk...
You are caller 205239; next msg =41786;  491 active msgs.
Prev. call 05/02/89 @ 21:30, next msg was 41761
Recording logon for next time.
Use FULL? to check assignments
?^U
?xxxxx

You asked for 5 more NULLS (pressed N while CBBS typed) 
Nulls were: 0 How many wanted:?0
type log,ward c;or;*;short
05/02/89,20:28:08,205138,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#41758,
]S,CBBS.CPM,
05/02/89,20:39:16,205139,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#41759,
E#41760,8
05/02/89,21:30:42,205140,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#41761,
05/02/89,21:41:12,205141,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
05/02/89,21:46:19,205142,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
]R,CBBS-RI.CPM,
05/02/89,21:59:55,205143,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
05/02/89,22:07:19,205144,1,LEE O,chicago,
>Help: PMZRLI,
05/02/89,22:43:49,205145,3,JIM SACKETT,,
E#41762,32
05/02/89,23:49:17,205146,2,BILL COLEMAN,,9
05/03/89,00:20:24,205147,3,RUSS MENNE,ROSCOMMON/ MI.,58
05/03/89,01:14:52,205148,3,SUSAN MCCLOUD,,3
05/03/89,03:48:43,205149,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#41763,5
05/03/89,05:34:14,205150,2,PETE JONES,,2
05/03/89,06:39:46,205151,1,BARRY POLLACK,,12
05/03/89,07:14:22,205152,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/03/89,07:25:58,205153,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,
E#41764,
05/03/89,07:30:18,205154,2,PAUL STREETER,,3
05/03/89,07:43:00,205155,1,ALEX ZELL,,1
05/03/89,07:52:45,205156,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3
05/03/89,08:18:51,205157,1,BARTLEE ANDERSON,Villa Park,
05/03/89,08:35:11,205158,2,GARY ELFRING,,
E#41765,5
05/03/89,09:03:15,205159,9,MIKE ANDREWS,,
E#41766,18
05/03/89,10:48:12,205160,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,
E#41767,3
05/03/89,13:13:31,205161,1,PETE MOORE,sac/ca,
05/03/89,14:50:45,205162,1,TROY COLBERT,,
E#41768,
05/03/89,17:51:09,205163,1,MARK TUBBS,BURBANK/CA.,16
05/03/89,18:14:09,205164,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,8
05/03/89,18:22:35,205165,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,
E#41769,
E#41770,12
05/03/89,18:43:56,205166,2,KARL WELLER,Chicago/ IL,23
05/03/89,19:32:45,20517,1,BARRY POLLACK,,
E#41771,10
05/03/89,19:47:23,205168,1,BARRY POLLACK,,2
05/03/89,20:05:08,205169,1,DAVID HUFF,DOVER/FL,3
05/03/89,20:27:12,205170,9,DAVID GIBBS,,0
05/03/89,20:37:54,205171,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,7
05/03/89,21:53:59,205172,1,ANDY SHAPIRO,,2
05/03/89,22:19:05,205173,3,JIM SACKETT,,
E#41772,21
05/03/89,23:10:24,205174,2,PHIL JERN,,
E#41773,8
05/03/89,23:34:39,205175,1,MARC DOTSETH,tucson/az,4
05/04/89,01:59:25,205176,1,SCOTT FREEMAN,,2
05/04/89,03:43:53,205177,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#41774,
E#41775,9
05/04/89,03:53:41,205178,2,JERRY OLSEN,,8
05/04/89,06:50:31,205179,2,TIM RILEY,DESPLAINES,
>Help: ////??,15
05/04/89,07:11:06,205180,2,TIM RILEY,,
E#41776,22
]NEED MOR HELP IN COMMUTATING BETWEEN COMPUTORS
TIM RILEY,
05/04/89,07:56:30,205181,2,TIM RILEY,,
]K,41776,TIM RILEY, 
>Help: PRINT,
>Help: PRINTER,
>Help: NEXT KEYWORD,
>Help: "SEARCH",
05/04/89,08:45:56,205182,2,MARTY LINGG,,2
05/04/89,08:59:23,205183,2,TIM RILEY,,
05/04/89,09:39:59,205184,2,TIM RILEY,,
>Help: 1 HELLO,
>Help: MESSAGES,59
05/04/89,10:46:21,205185,2,TIM RILEY,,2
05/04/89,12:13:21,205186,2,WAYNE SLUGOCKI,OAKLAWN,6
05/04/89,12:26:30,205187,2,CALVIN CURTINDOLPH,,
>Help: GR,10
05/04/89,14:04:17,205188,2,TIM RILEY,,
]K,41776,TIM RILEY, 
]K,41776,TIM RILEY, 
]K,41776,TIM RILEY, 14
05/04/89,14:44:45,205189,1,TROY COLBERT,,
05/04/89,15:39:20,205190,2,BILL WOLFF,,
05/04/89,15:58:47,205191,2,BILL WOLFF,,
E#41777,3
05/04/89,16:53:22,205192,1,JOHN MELLA,Chicago/ Illinois,10
05/04/89,17:00:28,205193,1,BILL WOLFF,,
E#41778,2
05/04/89,17:16:55,205194,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,2
05/04/89,17:47:09,205195,2,SAM RITCHIE,OAK PARK/ ILLINOIS,5
]WHAT IS THERE TO DO ON THIS SYSTEM?
SAM RITCHIE,
05/04/89,17:56:54,205196,9,DAVID GIBBS,,1
05/04/89,18:05:23,205197,2,TIM RILEY,,12
05/04/89,19:30:57,205198,2,JOHN SHEPARD,WINNETKA/IL,1
05/04/89,19:47:27,205199,1,DOUG FISHER,skokie,
E#41779,3
05/04/89,20:03:42,205200,2,TIM RILEY,,13
05/04/89,20:22:34,205201,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,3
05/04/89,20:55:39,205202,3,JIM SACKETT,,
E#41780,24
05/04/89,21:29:52,205203,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
05/04/89,21:51:20,205204,2,PHIL JERN,,0
05/04/89,21:58:15,205205,1,BILL WOLFF,,1
05/04/89,22:01:34,205206,2,CLIFF SHARP,,2
05/04/89,22:05:58,205207,1,BILL WOLFF,,
E#41781,
E#41782,9
05/04/89,22:27:32,205208,2,DAVE CARSON,northbook/il,6
]Welp..just have to say..being relatively new to modeming compared to
you guys..I am quite impressed by the ablity of this board to remain
up..just amazing...
DAVE CARSON,
05/04/89,22:47:48,205209,2,ED FOSTER,,4
05/04/89,22:52:15,205210,1,DON PIVEN,,3
05/04/89,23:08:48,205211,2,JIM POLOUS,,2
05/04/89,23:23:40,205212,2,KEVIN MCGUIGAN,,
]CHAT: QUIT NOTE AND THANKS,
E#41783,7
05/04/89,23:59:55,205213,1,DENNIS LEONG,,11
05/05/89,05:33:41,205214,2,PETE JONES,,1
05/05/89,06:29:16,205215,2,GEORGE KOSTEN,,
05/05/89,06:50:20,205216,2,GEORGE KOSTEN,,
05/05/89,07:06:38,205217,2,DENNIS STAHL,,3
05/05/89,07:24:29,205218,2,TIM RILEY,,30
05/05/89,08:24:46,205219,2,TIM RILEY,,12
05/05/89,08:42:08,205220,2,JACK HOMA,,2
05/05/89,09:15:37,205221,2,TIM RILEY,,11
05/05/89,09:26:59,205222,2,STEVEN COOK,,1
05/05/89,11:12:29,205223,1,GEORGE MATYASZEK,,
E#41784,5
05/05/89,11:16:59,205224,1,GEORGE MATYASZEK,,1
05/05/89,11:38:19,205225,2,ALEX ZELL,,
05/05/89,12:03:23,205226,1,CRAIG SCHIRO,baton rouge la,5
05/05/89,14:02:02,205227,3,PHIL SCHUMAN,,2
05/05/89,14:20:47,205228,2,JOHN HABERMANN,,25
05/05/89,14:51:09,205229,2,DENNIS STAHL,,1
05/05/89,15:05:26,205230,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,3
05/05/89,15:58:25,205231,1,DON WENDE,,
05/05/89,16:21:35,205232,1,GEORGE MATYASZEK,,1
05/05/89,16:31:24,205233,2,STEVE COHEN,,3
05/05/89,16:47:21,205234,1,MIKE MYERS,CHAMBERSBURG/ PA,6
05/05/89,16:51:51,205235,2,SCOTT SMITH,,
E#41785,5
05/05/89,17:37:22,205236,1,CARMEN MAUGERI,,3
05/05/89,18:37:28,205237,1,BILL WOLFF,,1
05/05/89,20:51:30,205238,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,4
05/05/89,23:29:16,205239,9,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
41761 05/02/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "DESK JET II"
41762 05/02/89 JIM SACKETT => ALL: "COMMODORE PTR TO IBM RS232"
41763 05/03/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => JIM SACKETT: "R/COMMODORE PTR TO IBM RS232"
41764 05/03/89 ANDY SHAPIRO => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/CP/M UNZIPPER??"
41765 05/03/89 GARY ELFRING => WARD: "DJII"
41766 05/03/89 MIKE ANDREWS => BOB SULLIVAN: "R/VCR TAPES USA/EUROPE"
41767 05/03/89 PHIL SCHUMAN => ALL: "DJII"
41768 05/03/89 TROY COLBERT => ALL: "NEW USER"
41769 05/03/89 JIM FLANAGAN => ERIC BOHLMAN: "COMMODORE PRINTER"
41770 05/03/89 JIM FLANAGAN > ALL: "PROGRAMING FEES"
41771 05/03/89 BARRY POLLACK => TRACY LOSE: "R/4/SALE"
41772 05/03/89 JIM SACKETT => ERIC BOHLMAN: "THANKS"
41773 05/03/89 PHIL JERN => ALL: "AT FOR SALE"
41774 05/04/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => JIM FLANAGAN: "R/COMMODORE PRINTER"
41775 05/04/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => ANDY SHAPIRO: "CP/M ZIP"
41776 05/04/89 TIM RILEY => ALL: "C"
41777 05/04/89 BILL WOLFF => KEVIN KEYSER: "R/CP/M UN-ZIPPER??"
41778 05/04/89 BILL WOLFF => JIM SACKETT: "R/COMMODORE PTR TO IBM RS232"
41779 05/04/89 DOUG FISHER => ALL: "NEW BBS"
41780 05/04/89 JIM SACKETT => BILL WOLFF: "AMIGA TIP"
41781 05/04/89 BILL WOLFF => JIM SACKETT: "R/AMIGA TIP"
41782 05/04/89 BILL WOLFF => KEVIN KEYSER: "R/CP/M UN-ZIPPER??"
41783 05/04/89 KEVINMCGUIGAN => ALL: "C" VS. DBASE"
41784 05/05/89 GEORGE MATYASZEK => ALL: "NEW VOICE ONLY BBS"
41785 05/05/89 SCOTT SMITH => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "R/DESK JET II"

 - End of summary - 

Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.

Msg 41761 is 02 line(s) on 05/02/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ALL re: DESK JET II

Anyone got one yet? ElekTek got 'em yet? I got put on infinite hold
the other day trying to find out. Curious for price, too.

Msg 41762 is 06 line(s) on 05/02/89 from JIM SACKETT
to ALL re: COMMODORE PTR TO IBM RS232

I have an IBM and a good wide carriage printer. I would like the print
head to last as long as possible so I want to make use of an old Commodore
printer I have collecting dust, for running labels ect .
I have tried to interface it with no success. Is the commodore a synchro-
nous printer ?
Is it possible to interface this at all ? Maybe someone can help !

Msg 41763 is 07 line(s) on 05/03/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to JIM SACKETT re: R/COMMODORE PTR TO IBM RS232

Commodore printers have such strange interface requirements (a clocked
bidirectional serial bus that's nothing like RS-232) that any interface
kludge would cost you more than picking up a used Centronics printer. Which
reminds me, I have an Okidata ML82 that I'd like to get rid of. Works just
fine; it's features are a bit limited due to its age (draft mode only, no
graphics, etc.). If interested, call me at 251-5787 and make an offer (asking
asking no more than $75).

Msg 41764 is 05 line(s) on 05/03/89 from ANDY SHAPIRO
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/CP/M UNZIPPER??

There's a CP/M program that will get you DIRECTORIES of ZIP files;
available on the ZNODEs in town. Also, there has been some word that
the ZIP algorithm isn't all that different from that for .ARC files.
I would expect to see a CP/M zipper of one sort or another arrive
within a month or two.

Msg 41765 is 04 line(s) on 05/03/89 from GARY ELFRING
to WARD re: DJII

I've talked to a number of customers who have the DeskJet II and saw
it work at COMDEX. The people I've talked to who bought it just walked
in off the street and got one. The curious thing is that no one I've
met got one in the Chicago area. It seems like they are not available here.

Msg 41766 is 05 line(s) on 05/03/89 from MIKE ANDREWS
to BOB SULLIVAN re: R/VCR TAPES USA/EUROPE

You can get (or rent) multi-format VCRs and TVs. They ain't cheap, but
they exist. There are also service companies that will convert a
PAL or SECAM format tape to NTSC VHS (that's what we use in the US).
Look in the Yellow Pages under Video Tape Duplicating Services (page 2075
Chicago Consumer Book 1989).

Msg 41767 is 03 line(s) on 05/03/89 from PHIL SCHUMANto ALL re: DJII

the Elektek on 63rd had it. this was for Ward & Gary.
sorry did not remember the prices. of the old or the new,
was busy looking at VGA monitors & cards - can't make up my mind.

Msg 41768 is 03 line(s) on 05/03/89 from TROY COLBERT
to ALL re: NEW USER

Hello! I AM A NEW USER. I AM INTERESTING IN FINDING OUT SOME OF THE
THINGS I CAN DO WITH THIS PROGRAM. PLEASE SEND MESSAGES THAT WILL
HELP INCREASE MY KNOWLEDGE OF THIS PROGRAM

Msg 41769 is 09 line(s) on 05/03/89 from JIM FLANAGAN
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: COMMODORE PRINTER

Eric, you live dangerously, Commodore on CBBS - tut-tut.
Seriously, your basic problem is that commodore use a variant of ASCII called
by some PETSCII (for Commodore Pet). It has , I believe, high & low bits
reversed so even if you did print it would look like this.
wITH THE HIGH AND LOW BITS REVERSED CAPS BECOME LOWERCASE AND LOWERCASE BECOME
CAPS, eRIC. You might get a Commodre interface that converts PETSCII to ASCII
Parralel and then an Parralel to Serial converter - Nah why bother, Most
Commodore printers don't have lower case descenders anyway.


Msg 41770 is 03 line(s) on 05/03/89 from JIM FLANAGAN
to ALL re: PROGRAMING FEES

A friend has been asked by a large company to do some programing. Can people
help with suggested billing rates - Thanks


Msg 41771 is 07 line(s) on 05/03/89 from BARRY POLLACK
to TRACY LOSE re: R/4/SALE

Dear Tracey:
My friend, Ray, is a musician and might be interested in your system.
If it is still available Ray can be reached at 908-5244 between noon
and 3 P.M. If it is already sold please leave a message for me here
so that I can let Ray know to look further.
Thanks,
Barry

Msg 41772 is 08 line(s) on 05/03/89 from JIM SACKETT
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: THANKS

I guess the general opinion is don't bother with the antique. I also saw
Jim Flanagans' remarks. Sorry you took . As far as the printer
you have for sale, I'm not sure just yet. I figured if I could make use o
the commodore printer I would. I may be getting a Diconix desk jet from
work now anyway (Eastman Kodak). I'll let you know though. I have a
friend that may want your printer, I'll ask him too.
 Thanks Again;
 Jim Sackett

Msg 41773 is 07 line(s) on 05/03/89 from PHIL JERN
to ALL re: AT FOR SALE

I have a brand new AT for sale, 12.5 MHZ Western Digital Motherboard,
One Meg of memory, 3.5" 1.44 Meg and 360k floppies, 71 MByte Micropolis drive.

I'll throw in a genuine used IBM mono monitor, too. The board has a
built-in Paradise EEGA board. 640 x 480, if I'm not mistaken. I bought
the machine for a project that never materialized, and would like to unload it
and get some cash. $1500 takes it.

Msg 41774 is 07 line(s) on 05/04/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to JIM FLANAGAN re: R/COMMODORE PRINTER

What the person wanted to do was adapt a Commodore printer to be used as
a spare with another (presumably IBM-compatible) system. Character codes
are the least of the problem there; it would take a custom daa format
converter that would cost more than getting a standard printer. Converters
that go the other way (adapt standard printers to Commodore computers) are
plentiful, which says something unflattering about the quality of Commodore's
printers.

Msg 41775 is 06 line(s) on 05/04/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to ANDY SHAPIRO re: CP/M ZIP

Remember that PKZIP can use two different compression methods. I suspect
that "shrinking" is just a minor variant of the "squashing" method used in
PKARC, which is LZW compression with a maximum 13-bit code size; that could
be handled with no problem. But there's also "reducing" and I have no idea
as to the memory requirements involved there; it uses a totally different
(non-LZW) method.

Msg 41776 is 01 line(s) on 05/04/89 from TIM RILEY
to ALL re: C

looking for help with linking my computer with others.

Msg 41777 is 09 line(s) on 05/04/89 from BILL WOLFF
to KEVIN KEYSER re: R/CP/M UN-ZIPPER??

Kevin;

There is a zipper and a unzipper for the Commodore computers. The version
I have runs on the C64 computer. I don't know of one that runs in the
native C128 mode, but if you hear of one, please let me know. The zipper
program has been out at least a year or more for the Commodores. You may
want to call Protecto's BBS at 382-3270 for a copy. Please note the
SYSOP there will probablly not answer any mail you send. The reason?
Your guess is as good as mine. <BW>

Msg 41778 is 05 line(s) on 05/04/89 from BILL WOLFF
to JIM SACKETT re: R/COMMODORE PTR TO IBM RS232

Jim, didn't I talk to youon CCBS? Any way, your problem is not unique!
Amiga users are going through the same thing. Wanting to use their old
Commodore stuff with RS-232. I believe their solution is buying a
interface just for that. Guessing I think it cost $20-$50 range. Check
out some Amiga BBS's and magazines. <BW>

Msg 41779 is 02 line(s) on 05/04/89 from DOUG FISHER
to ALL re: NEW BBS

ITS all together: dating service, graphics, games, doors - try it
dial 312/8305476

Msg 41780 is 11 line(s) on 05/04/89 from JIM SACKETT
to BILL WOLFF re: AMIGA TIP

Thanks for the Amiga tip. I have been on several boards looking for help.
I figured someone has had to have gone through this question before.
I have played around with computers for years now and know there aren't
to many new problems that haven't been solved somewhere before. Asking
around can save a lot of time and hair ! I like to tinker around with
building things so an interface isn't out of the question yet. I recently
built an artificially intelligent toy car from an Omni magazine artical.
You may remember it advertised as a robot with insect inteligence.
It can make you think something is really in here!
Well thanks again for the tip. Talk to you again some time.
 Jim Sackett

Msg 41781 is 03 line(s) on 05/04/89 from BILL WOLFF
to JIM SACKETT re: R/AMIGA TIP

Glad I could help. I build things myself, but more into programming
now. If you are going to chech this board for awhile, I see what I
can find in the magazines? I think Commodore or INFO had something.

Msg 41782 is 07 line(s) on 05/0/89 from BILL WOLFF
to KEVIN KEYSER re: R/CP/M UN-ZIPPER??

Kevin;

That's because the Commodore 128 is a very powerful computer. Then
adding another 512K to make it to 640K on a 8-bit computer! Wow!
You know have one of the most powerful 8-bit computer around. Plus
it runs four powerful operating systems C64, C128, CP/M and GEOS.
You got a great computer Kevin!

Msg 41783 is 03 line(s) on 05/04/89 from KEVIN MCGUIGAN
to ALL re: "C" VS. DBASE

THANKS FOR SUGGESTIONS RE C-TO-DBASE; STILL LEARNING, BUT KEY IS ALL
BUT BE ACCESSED N "c" AS "static". STILL WORKING ON IT, WILL ADVISE.
S

Msg 41784 is 03 line(s) on 05/05/89 from GEORGE MATYASZEK
to ALL re: NEW VOICE ONLY BBS

Announcing the Chicago Watson Voice BBS. No computer or
modem needed. Only your touch-tone telephone and a
call to 312/622-5969. We're looking for your call now.

Msg 41785 is 03 line(s) on 05/05/89 from SCOTT SMITH
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: R/DESK JET II

I've got a client who just got a Desk Jet II, fast UPS delivery and all.
I'm not sure exactly what he paid, but it was about $700. I'll know soon
since I'm installing some equipment at his office.
dup. chars.
>Function:?