textfiles/bbs/CBBS/1989/890822.ch

:31,207961,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,3
08/19/89,23:25:42,207962,1,BEN TEIFELD,,7
08/19/89,23:58:35,207963,2,JIM POLOUS,,2
08/20/89,00:12:23,207964,2,GEORGE DIMIDIK,,5
08/20/89,00:57:34,207965,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
08/20/89,02:03:46,207966,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,2
08/20/89,05:26:35,207967,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,5
08/20/89,06:40:53,207968,2,JOHN COOPER,,1
08/20/89,06:46:28,207969,2,RICHARD HINTON,,0
08/20/89,08:32:25,207970,2,BILL WOLFF,,
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08/20/89,09:37:31,207971,2,MARTIN MILLER,,32
08/20/89,11:30:32,207972,2,DONALD CROSS,,1
08/20/89,12:23:16,207973,2,ROGER HEATH,Prospect Hts/IL,6
08/20/89,13:06:34,207974,2,WES SCOTT,wauconda,6
08/20/89,14:04:55,207975,2,DUANE LANG,BARRINGTON IL,
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08/20/89,14:18:59,207976,2,ALEX ZELL,,
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08/20/89,16:05:44,207977,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
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08/20/89,16:43:59,207978,1,DON PIVEN,,5
08/20/89,17:27:52,207979,2,PAUL BERKER,LAKE VILLA/IL,
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08/20/89,18:00:45,207980,1,FREDDY UNDDA,CHICAGO ILL 60639,
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08/20/89,18:04:46,207981,1,VIRENDRA DHUPELIA,,23
08/20/89,19:25:51,207982,3,ART PITKIN,,16
08/20/89,20:35:43,207983,2,BILL WOLFF,,
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08/20/89,20:45:26,207984,1,MICHAEL SKURLA,,
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08/20/89,21:03:05,207985,1,JAMES LOVERDE,Chicago/IL,5
08/20/89,21:36:27,207986,1,LAURENT DUFRASNE,montreal/pq,2
08/20/89,22:09:17,207987,1,JACK CASACCIO,Glenview,4
08/20/89,22:39:49,207988,2,JIM POLOUS,,1
08/20/89,23:00:24,207989,2,PHILL AMICK,,9
08/20/89,23:15:46,207990,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
08/20/89,23:22:22,207991,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,1
08/21/89,01:33:43,207992,2,JERRY OLSEN,,
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08/21/89,05:24:49,207993,2,ALEX ZELL,,
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08/21/89,05:52:20,207994,2,PETE JONES,,1
08/21/89,08:34:36,207995,2,LARRY HITZ,,1
08/21/89,10:28:17,207996,1,JIM EATON,,11
08/21/89,11:07:27,207997,2,DAVID WILLIS,,6
08/21/89,11:52:23,207998,2,MIKE COOK,,11
08/21/89,15:37:21,207999,1,DAVID BETHANY,,12
08/21/89,16:05:14,208000,1,LARRY ALVINO,,32
08/21/89,16:30:08,208001,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,1
08/21/89,16:39:45,208002,1,LANE LARRISON,,10
08/21/89,16:44:06,208003,2,BILL WOLFF,,
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08/21/89,17:57:46,208004,2,DONALD CROSS,,6
08/21/89,19:17:25,208005,2,SCOTT JOHNSTON,,2
08/21/89,19:50:49,208006,2,JIM POLOUS,,1
08/21/89,20:31:28,208007,3,TOBY GOLDSTEIN,CHICAGO,7
08/21/89,20:49:51,208008,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,1
08/21/89,21:20:27,208009,3,TOBY GOLDSTEIN,,5
08/21/89,21:36:07,208010,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,0
08/21/89,21:57:52,208011,2,GEORGE DIMIDIK,,4
08/21/89,22:05:55,208012,2,DON STEFFENS,barrington/il,8
08/21/89,22:34:50,208013,2,JOHN COOPER,,1
08/22/89,00:56:07,208014,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,0
08/22/89,02:30:04,208015,3,MATTHEW MISTRAL,,4
08/22/89,03:16:31,208016,2,JIM MILLS,,
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08/22/89,06:17:45,208017,2,ALEX ZELL,,
08/22/89,06:38:20,208018,2,ART WALLER,,2
08/22/89,07:51:50,208019,2,LARRY HITZ,,1
08/22/89,07:56:53,208020,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,4
08/22/89,09:20:52,208021,2,KY YAMADA,{Honolulu/ HI,5
08/22/89,10:03:01,208022,2,DON PIVEN,,2
08/22/89,10:14:06,208023,1,DARKO BULAT,Zagreb/ Yugoslavia,
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08/22/89,11:11:11,208024,2,SCOTT JOHNSTON,,2
08/22/89,12:41:35,208025,2,ROGER PAULSON,,
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08/22/89,12:57:56,208026,2,GERALD CLARK,,2
08/22/89,13:07:22,208027,3,JIM COLLING,,
08/22/89,13:09:05,208028,3,JIM COLLING,,17
08/22/89,13:28:47,208029,2,TONY BIELOBOCKIE,columbia/ sc,3
08/22/89,14:13:16,208030,1,JACK HOMA,,5
08/22/89,15:08:37,208031,1,BUD PACKER,Oak Lawn/ Il.,10
08/22/89,15:16:55,208032,1,LANE LARRISON,,11
08/22/89,15:33:29,208033,1,LANE LARRISON,,31
08/22/89,15:38:22,208034,2,MARTY LINGG,,1
08/22/89,16:04:08,208035,2,TONY KUEH,,
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08/22/89,16:05:29,208036,1,LANE LARRISON,,2
08/22/89,16:07:02,208037,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,3
08/22/89,16:10:17,208038,1,LANE LARRISON,,4
08/22/89,16:19:36,208039,1,LANE LARRISON,,13
08/22/89,16:32:39,208040,1,JEFF MARTIN,,40
08/22/89,17:52:06,208041,2,JAMES SCHMIDT,,
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08/22/89,19:20:54,208042,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,3
08/22/89,19:41:27,208043,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,4
08/22/89,20:27:41,208044,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,
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08/22/89,21:02:39,208045,2,STEVE COHEN,,3
08/22/89,21:52:14,208046,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42333 08/20/89 BILL WOLFF => WARD CHRISTENSEN: "SHARP'S 4501 LAPTOP."
42334 08/20/89 ALEX ZELL => ALL: "LAPTOPS"
42335X 08/20/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "FOR SALE"
42336 08/20/89 PAUL BERKER => TRACY LOSE: "R/LOOKING FOR QB4 PROGRAMER."
42337 08/20/89 BILL WOLFF => ALEX ZELL: "R/LAPTOPS"
42338 08/20/89 MICHAEL SKURLA => ALL: "MCI MAIL"
42339 08/21/89 JERRY OLSEN => ALPHONSO CARTER: "R/BACKSPACING"
42340 08/21/89 ALEX ZELL => BILL WOLFF: "R/R/LAPTOPS"
42341 08/21/89 BILL WOLFF => ALEX ZELL: "R/R/LAPTOPS"
42342 08/22/89 JIM MILLS => JERRY OLSEN: "R/PROGRAMMERS WANTED"
42343 08/22/89 JIM MILLS => ALL: "PROGRAMMER NEEDED"
42344 08/22/89 JIM MILLS => ALL: "MILLS BROTHERS BBS"
42345 08/22/89 ROGER PAULSON => ALL: "FOR SALE/ MISC."
42346 08/22/89 JAMES SCHMIDT => ALL: "1701 POST ERROR HARD DRIVE"
42347 08/22/89 RICHARD GOZDAL => ALL: "FOR SALE"

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Msg 42333 is 06 line(s) on 08/20/89 from BILL WOLFF
to WARD CHRISTENSEN re: SHARP'S 4501 LAPTOP.

Did I meantion that it could be expanded up to 1.6 MEG. Yes you can
expand it to 640K and than get another 1 MEG for extended memory that
comforms to Lotus and MicroSoft's specs.

If you get everything though, I am not sure how long your batteries
will last?

Msg 42334 is 07 line(s) on 08/20/89 from ALEX ZELL
to ALL re: LAPTOPS

The current (September) Consumer Reports discusses eight laptops:
Toshiba T1200FB; NEC Multispeed EL-2; Epson Equity LT; Tandy 1400 LT;
Datavue Spark; Datavue Snap; Zenith Supersport 184-1, and Toshiba
T1000. (Listed in order of estimated overall quality, based on
performance and convenience.)
 One conclusion: "Laptops can do anything a desktop computer can
do - but at twice the price."
No msg 42335

Msg 42336 is 02 line(s) on 08/20/89 from PAUL BERKER
to TRACY LOSE re: R/LOOKING FOR QB4 PROGRAMER.

if you are still lokking for someone with knowledge of qb4.0 or qb4.5
call me at my bbs "nessy" 356-6897 box #001

Msg 42337 is 02 line(s) on 08/20/89 from BILL WOLFF
to ALEX ZELL re: R/LAPTOPS

Not all laptops cost twice the price. Where can you get a $325 desktop
computer?

Msg 42338 is 04 line(s) on 08/20/89 from MICHAEL SKURLA
to ALL re: MCI MAIL

 i have found that mci mail is one of the best mail services for
electronic mail, computer fax, and much more. at&t mail is o.k. if you
want to only be able to talk to people who work for at&t. if you want
more info on at&t, or -mci mail- write me a note.(michael skurla)

Msg 42339 is 05 line(s) on 08/21/89 from JERRY OLSEN
to ALPHONSO CARTER re: R/BACKSPACING

Most likely, either you're using the "delete" key when you intend to
use the backspace key. Or, your terminal program is "mapping" your
backspace key to turn it into a delete key. If you don't have a true
backspace key which behaves as such, try pressing control-H as an
alternative.

Msg 42340 is 02 line(s) on 08/21/89 from ALEX ZELL
to BILL WOLFF re: R/R/LAPTOPS

Don't tell me. Tell Consumers Union. That was a quote from
Consumer Reports.

Msg 42341 is 07 line(s) on 08/21/89 from BILL WOLFF
to ALEX ZELL re: R/R/LAPTOPS

Well Alex, it's really no big deal! Most of the time, laptops really does
cost twice as much. I use to get Consumers Report for many years. And though
most articles were within specs, sometimes things seemed to be written by
someone who just learned about the product just last week. I guess that's
okay. But sometimes it seems that it can lead to the blind leading the
blind! Why don't they get better experts from time to time. Oh well!
Life is such . of well what can I say!

Msg 42342 is 07 line(s) on 08/22/89 from JIM MILLS
to JERRY OLSEN re: R/PROGRAMMERS WANTED

Jerry: Sorry to be so long getting back to you - things have been hectic.
Positions are full time, on-premises. If interested, please send me a
resume and we will schedule an interview:
James K. Mills, Director of Software
Apache Electronic Graphics, Inc.
P. O. Box 4774
Oakbrook, IL 60522-4774

Msg 42343 is 10 line(s) on 08/22/89 from JIM MILLS
to ALL re: PROGRAMMER NEEDED

WANTED: Programmer: dBASE III+ (Foxbase 2.1 experience preferred)
 and Spreadsheet (Microsoft Excel experience preferred)
 and MS-DOS familiarity.
We are looking for someone who is willing to grow and learn.
timeframe: immediate need, call J. Mills at (312) 629-5777, 9-5 M-F.
Or send resume to:
 J. Mills
 Apache Electronic Graphics, Inc.
 PO Box 4774
 Oakbrook, IL 60522-4774

Msg 42344 is 17 line(s) on 08/22/89 from JIM MILLS
to ALL re: MILLS BROTHERS BBS

The Mills Brothers BBS is back (formerly the AMPRO4 board, formerly the
Mill RCPM, formerly the Mills CBBS (R) - in operation since 1982).
The BBS can be reached at (312) 690-3808, 8/N/1, 2400/1200/300 baud,
and is operational 24 hours per day. The Board runs on a PC-XT Clone
with a 60 Meg hard disk drive using "PC Board" BBS Software from the
Clark Development Company in Salt Lake City, Utah. If your computer
is set to display ANSI graphics, you'll like to colors.
The Mills Brothers BBS currently offers five download sections on the
"Main" board: PC Utils, Comm, PCMag, Pix, and Jokes. In addition, we
have (currently) seven "conferences" for various topics of discussion,
each with its own upload/download area: Ham Radio, Swap Shop, Talk/Chat,
Games, Program, Database, and CP/M.
Future plans include multi-user operation, on-line gaes/programs you can
run, and greater disk storage, and possibly even a worm drive or CD.
We are currently operating in "open" mode - give us a call.
 Jim and Jeff Mills, Sysops
PS: Recently up after some inadvertant downtime - give us a call.

Msg 42345 is 08 line(s) on 08/22/89 from ROGER PAULSON
to ALL re: FOR SALE/ MISC.

Due to recent upgrade, I have the following for sale:

1) Full-sized AT style case with associated hardware.
2) Phoenix 286 BIOS chipset. Version 3.1-10 (new).
3) Western Digital WD-27x RLL Hard disk controller.

Open to all offers. Cash or will trade for some 1meg RAM chips.
Call me at 255-3728 or leave message here!

Msg 42346 is 17 line(s) on 08/22/89 from JAMES SCHMIDT
to ALL re: 1701 POST ERROR HARD DRIVE

f*I have an IBM PS/2-30-021 (8086) with the built in 20 MB hard disk. This
afternoon I powered on the system unit and during the POST it displayed
a '1701 Error Hard Disk Problem' it gave me the option of pressing F1 to
continue which I did. The indicator on the hard disk came on solid for a
few seconds and then I was given the the option if inserting a diskette
to continue.
It appears the hard disk was not rotating. I powered the unit off and
then on again and this time the disk began rotating and POST completed
without error.
I guess my question is: Is this an isolated incident or is it a symptom
of a future failure? Do hard disks occasionally not power up correctly?
This has never happened before! The unit is almost 2 years old with
probably 2000 hours of use total.
Needless to say I did a full volume backup just to be safe.
Thanks in advance,
James R. Schmidt
Morton Grove, Il

Msg 42347 is 03 line(s) on 08/22/89 from RICHARD GOZDAL
to ALL re: FOR SALE

 Got the TTL monitor I needed.
 Wordstar 5.5 for sale cash $ 125. You pick up and check it after
WE open it to make sure everything is there (reg. card etc).
dup. chars.
>Function:?