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F I D O N E W S -- Volume 15, Number 19 11 May 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Zorch Frezberg 1:205/1701 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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So Many Claims...So Little Time...
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr] ........... 4
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Remembering Frank Ellermann of 2:240/5815 ................ 5
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
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Louie, Louie, Satti's gotta go ........................... 8
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4. NOTICES .................................................. 11
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Future History ........................................... 11
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5. FIDONEWS PUBLIC-KEY ...................................... 12
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FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing .......................... 12
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6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 13
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7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 15
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 1 11 May 1998
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EDITORIAL
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A few items of interest...
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There are times when it is actually amusing to watch what happens
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in FidoNet, especially when certain individuals make attempts to
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prove a point, and don't realize what is in store for them.
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Doc Logger appears, again, having made an erroneous assumption in
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his previous column...it makes no difference and actually points out
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precisely the point I was indeed trying to make...and to answer his
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unspoken question, it takes me about seven hours to read the book.
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Doc did good...he just hasn't realized why yet.
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And the "scorched earth" policy seems to be moving to a quick and
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earnest conclusion...
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John Souvestre has apparently decided to go for an "endgame" in
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making a direct challenge to the Z1EC, Bob Kohl, by making several
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accusations, including the claim that the Editor of the FidoNews
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has refused to post election results as submitted.
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Likewise, John has decided to join in the furor over my "true
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identity", and make claims that I have committed "voter fraud".
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As well, allegations of 'bribery' and 'payoffs' have been made.
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A pity that Mr. Souvestre is about to become the very foolish
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looking person that he has long been accused of being...and by his
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very own hand.
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I would, again, point out to John that the FidoNews publishes what
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is submitted to it...and the only "editing" done is to meet the
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margin requirements (which occasionally slip by...sorry, Michele!).
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As to the rest...
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Keep watching, everyone...this should prove to be highly
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entertaining.
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This line with the mention of "Ward Dossche" is included to meet the
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alleged 'all-consuming devotion of the FidoNews Editorial' with Ward.
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As it is, Ward has not submitted his "Doomsday Countdown" for the
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last few weeks and, at his specific request, I am not publishing any
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copy of it without his permission.
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 2 11 May 1998
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However, to that end, it appears from tossing the nodediff here each
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week that it may indeed be time to look at the long-quelled and oft
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suppressed (or so several have said) requests from various sysops to
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establish a new Zone in FidoNet...Zone 7.
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The advantages are obvious...it significantly lessens the chances
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of tie votes in the ZCC; it balances the Zones and gives more direct
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representation to the sysops involved; and it reduces the chances of
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Regional Coordinators being drowned out when they wish to address
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issues of their areas.
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The downside of it is, of course, that the current "majority" in the
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confines of Zone 2 would likely be reduced to a comparable level
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with all other Zones, but what's more important...maintaining a
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majority, or enhancing and enabling representation closer to the real
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population?
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As well, with the advent of BinkD and ARGUS, it may be that the
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future center of new developments in FidoNet is shifting yet once
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again...
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An issue to consider for the ZCC, no doubt...along with another.
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Yet another FTSC member has resigned from the group, citing some
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personal reasons.
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I believe this means we have lost a total of three FTSC members, but
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I can't be certain since I've seemingly been denied access to the
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FTSC echoes overall, even though I was elected to that body.
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As a member of FTSC, I've not been able to gain access to the FTSC
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Working Group echoes since these were established, and only five
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messages have passed through the main FTSC echo since these echoes
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were established.
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I'm certain that this is *merely* an oversight, but my queries as
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to where to get a feed from have been met with stony silence and
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a 'humorous' comment that I have been added to the SEEN-BY of every
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member's posts.
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Since I've received no real responses to my queries, I suppose that
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posting this here instead may garner a few more serious responses,
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no?
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Or, at the least, present a case for the ZCC to decide on the merits
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and usefulness of the newest incarnation of the FTSC.
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Communication doesn't work if it is only one way...
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Next week, I will attempt to carry out something that hasn't been
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seen in the FidoNews in quite some time...a personal interview with
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another member of FidoNet in a face-to-face meeting.
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 3 11 May 1998
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Let's see if we can meet before I say who and where...
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And that's it...a few items of interest to consider, one and all.
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 4 11 May 1998
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ARTICLES
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Mar-Apr]
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by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/40
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lisa@psg.com
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Summary of backbone & quasi-backbone echo changes during Mar & Apr.
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Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
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diff (backbone.na + backbone.no) 01-Mar-98 03-May-98 [edited].
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Echotag name changes
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< CHANNELS Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms [old name]
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> CHANNELLING Channelled Msgs From Spirit Realms [new name]
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< VEGAN (not in EchoList since 2/1/98) [old name]
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> VEGETARIAN Vegetarian Echo [new name]
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Added to the backbone
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> ADSL ADSL Modem Technology Support Conference
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> ALL-POLITICS Politics Unlimited
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> AOP Association of Online Professionals Conference
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> CLASSIC_COMPUTER Classic Computers 11/1/97)
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> CYBER_AUCTION Cyber Auction echo
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> DCP Daycare Provider's Exchange
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> DEBATE_ON_ABORTION Debate between Pro-Life and Pro-Choice
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> DEMOCRATS Democratic Party policy and strategy
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> DRAKE Discussion re R. L. Drake Communications Equip.
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> DTP Desktop Publishing discussion
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> FRUGAL Frugal Lifestyle Discussion Conference.
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> GAMES4SALE Games for sale
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> I&UK_GENE Ireland & UK Genealogy
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> MILITARY Military General Conference for all services
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> MOOSECHAT Moose and Hoser "Canadian Humor" Chat
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> MS_WORD Microsoft Word Users Support Conference
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> M_GRIPE Gripe: The Mother of All Echos
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> NET_WIDE_CHATTER ENTIRE FidoNet Network General Chat Area!
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> PARANORMAL Paranormal discussions.
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> POST_POLIO International Post-Polio Survivors Forum
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> SLEEP_APNEA Sleep Apnea and Your Life
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> SOUTH_PARK The Fido South Park Echo
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> SQAFIX SqaFix Help and Information Echo
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> STEP_PARENT Discuss issues relating to Step Parenting
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> STTOS Star Trek: The Original Series discussions
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> WATERGATE (low traffic since 4/1/98)
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Removed from the backbone or quasi-backbone
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< ABLENEWS (low traffic since 12/1/97)
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 5 11 May 1998
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< AMIGA_CDROM (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< ARCHERY (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< ASP ASP (Association of Shareware Professionals)
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< AT&T (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< BRIT_CAR (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< COINS (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< DBASE (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< EDUCATOR Discussion for Educators
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< EMERG_MANAGE (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< EP-ANNOUNCE (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< EP-SYSOP (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< FIDOWEB (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< GEOWORKS GeoWorks Ensemble Help Echo
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< GRAND_ROUNDS (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< HP (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< JEWISHGEN Jewish Genealogy Conference
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< JFK_ASSN (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< JOURNAL (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< KLINGON_RPG (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< KOMBUCHA (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< LAND Land of Devastation Echo
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< LEGAL_LAW (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< MTN_BIKE (low traffic since 12/1/97)
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< MW_GENE (not in EchoList since 2/1/98)
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< NEXUS (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< PCUG (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< QUOTES_2 (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< RACING_SIMS (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< ROK Realm of Kisom Support
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< SALVATION_ARMY (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< SB-SOLAR_RPT (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< SENIOR_CLASS (low traffic since 2/1/98)
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< SF&ANIME_RPG Sci-Fi & Anime Role Playing Games
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< SHINING*STAR (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< SIP_NA (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< SIP_SURVIVOR (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< STOP_SMOKING (low traffic since 10/1/97)
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< TAGMULTI (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< TEL_TECH (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< TOTT_SOS (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< TRANSAMIGA (low traffic since 11/1/97)
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< TREK_FOR_SALE (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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< WC4_32BIT (low traffic since 9/1/97)
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o There are 662 echos in backbone.na [03-May-98] (down 12)
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o There are 90 echos in backbone.no [03-May-98] (down 7)
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o for a total of 752 backbone & quasi-backbone echos (down 19)
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Remembering Frank Ellermann of 2:240/5815
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by Wulf Krueger, 2:2437/209
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 6 11 May 1998
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Only a few of you out there will have noticed what has happened
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in Nodelist 114. One of us has finally dropped from the Nodelist
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after having been down for around 5 months. Why do I mention this
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fact? Many nodes are leaving today daily.
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Frank Ellermann, formerly known as 2:240/5815, was a very special
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person. He had excellent skills in FidoNet techniques; IMHO he
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was one of the most brilliant among us. He has been actively
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developing FSCs (now known as FSPs) and he wrote small piece of
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FTN software himself. But there was much more to him..
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Frank was not only an excellent technician but he was an out-
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standing personality. He was a very kind and gentle person. We
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all know our common ways in FidoNet today - bashing and throwing
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dirt at each other. I have never seen him writing such mails.
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Frank always tried to see the "bright side of life" and the
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bright side of every single person - even if it was someone he
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did not like. Even when he was attacked himself he never chose
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to flame back, he took it with much humour. For this behaviour
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he was widely respected by those who knew him. Even those who
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critisized him respected him as a person.
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Frank wrote long mails (he was famous for that, too,
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Frank "Ellenlang" ;) ) about FTN, about democratic principles in
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FidoNet and (sometimes) about life in general.
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He was one of the authors of the local policy of R2:24, the so-
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called RegPol24 which IMHO helped us very much to establish
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democratic principles in R2:24. He has given much advice to
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the current ZC2, Ward Dossche, myself and many others - to anyone
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who asked him.
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Frank always seemed to be full of joy though he was not the kind
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of person to show his personal feelings to anyone. I knew him
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for several years and learned to interpret his words quite well,
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we became very good friends in fact. Indeed, I consider him
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having once saved my life.
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Frank joined FidoNet late in 1994 and became a node in 1995.
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Now Frank has completely disappeared and it really hurts me and
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makes me feel bad. When Frank had to go down in the middle of
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Decembre 1997 we both hoped that he would come up again. I spoke
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to him on the 15th of January this year and as always he sounded
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very good. :-)
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Since that day I have lost any contact. Frank has no telephone
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anymore and he doesn't answer my letters. When I tried to visit
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him he did not answer the door bell. I hope and I suppose he is
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physically well but having lost him as a fellow node and, which
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is much harder for me, as a good friend is very sad but it's his
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decision.
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Concerning his FSCs I ask Odinn Sorensen, chairman of the new
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FTSC, to take Frank's submission as *public domain*. This is
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what Frank wanted if his node was removed from the Nodelist to
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make sure that they could be improved by others who take up his
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good work and I want this to come true to honour him.
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 7 11 May 1998
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I ask all you others out there, those of you how knew him, those
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of you who have read his name in FTSC_PUBLIC or elsewhere and all
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others, to remember him, to take up where he had to stop, to try
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to take him as an example of how to communicate with others.
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FidoNet could be much more human and much more fun then.
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At least I will always remember him and I wish him the best of
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luck.
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If you should, by any means, get to read this, Frank, I hope you
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will remember my words in one of our last netmails.
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I miss you.
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Wulf Krueger of 2:2437/209
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COLUMNS
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Dear Editorbeing,
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This missive is submitted by Doc Logger (163/110) who was
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busy trying to sort out whether Hans Mangold really exists,
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or whether he is just another one of Zorch's pseudos...or
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maybe it was the other way around.
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Roll da flic, Zorch....
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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This may turn out to be a shorter epic than usual because
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the squid are mating in the lagoon and I can tell you there
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there is no finer daiquiri than that which is made from
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squid eggs, fresh bananas, and some of the local potent
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alcoholic beverages. This is one of those seasonal rarities
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where I give in to indolence and forgo the usual educational
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discussions with the Giant Clams.
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This week, the ace Nodelist detectives went rangy when they
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discovered that even more souls had fled to the Sherwood
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Forest sanctuary of Net163. First moron up to the plate was
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good ole' Dallas Hinton who whined " I wish to protest most
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strongly you allowing yet another private node from out of
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the Net 163 geographic area. ... As required by policy, I am
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writing to you to discuss the problem before taking any
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other steps. I await your reply at your earliest
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convenience." Alas poor Dallas still doesn't get it. The
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node in question asked to join our net because he felt that
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he was being harassed by his NC and could get no joy from
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Hinton.
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Next up, striving to outdo even Hinton for idiocy was Tom
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Hall (1:342/1) "I am therefore forced to conclude that the
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following represents a violation of Policy4, and if this
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violation is not reversed in a timely fashion, then I shall
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file a formal policy complaint with you over the action of
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your NC." Hint for Blondes there Tom: Stop abusing your
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nodes and maybe they'd actually want to stay in your net.
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And finally, batting clean-up and as usual, dumber than
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squid, we heard from Bob "Noted" Satti who said: "I don't
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recall granting you a geographical exemption for nodes from
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Edmonton and Rhode Island. NOW he is saying that he will
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stay in net 163 because you folks 'want him to'. THAT isn't
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a good enough reason. Please clean up your net segment. You
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don't have a single geographical exemption from me, and so
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there shouldn't be any out of area nodes in your segment.
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It's not as if you weren't given fair warning that I would
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be watching your segment." Poor Bob doesn't get it either.
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 9 11 May 1998
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If he'd quit sitting on his thumbs and install a little
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accountability among his elflords, there really wouldn't be
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a need to have nodes joining Net163. Hint for Blonde Bobs:
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With respect to your demand to "clean up the net segment",
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piss off and go away. When you get a mandate to do anything
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other than clerk the nodelist, then perhaps we'll sit in
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rapt attention at your semiliterate grumblings.
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And finally, a rather long quote taken from an ancient
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Fidonews, written by Tom Jennings.
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" FidoNews 6-33 Page 11 14 Aug 1989
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How Did This Happen?
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Tom Jennings 1:125/111
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Let's keep this simple: at no time have the sysops of
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our FidoNet network given /0's the privilege of determining
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how our network is run. They are not representatives of
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anyone but themselves; they are merely administrative
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nodes to generate nodelist fragments, help new sysops
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get online and act as repositories of the necessary
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network files. They are ordinary nodes with more work to
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do.
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A dangerous thing has been attempted, and is undermining
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the trust that we rely on. "POLICY4" is simply not in
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effect, it was not voted upon by the members at large. I,
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and many many others, are simply ignoring the supposed
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policy "change". How did this happen?
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POLICY4 is terrible policy. It takes the right to choose
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your own net host way! It entrenches /0's as positions of
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authority. This is insane and does not facilitate our
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communications. A "smoothly running network" is not our
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goal; we are here to communicate, that is all. We do
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that well now. Even voting on POLICY4 is insane, it
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certainly will not benefit the 6000 or so sysops in the
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network!
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I've had FidoNet users tell me that their host
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doesn't automatically route them their host-routed mail.
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This was the most basic purpose of a net host to begin
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with! The whole concept of host-routing was to make
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FidoNet more effecient by concentrating calls!
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Anyways, If a few-dozen or -hundred /0's can vote,
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then a few-thousand can represent themselves just as
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simply. So what if it takes a long time, expediency is not
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a goal. If we don't have the tool(s), write them or do it
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by hand. Freeze a nodelist as the "list of registered
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voters". Have everyone send in a message. Check them
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off the list. Hold redundant votes, compare results. Give
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it a month. The net runs fine, there is no need to
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implement bad policy just to satisfy some bureaucratic
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urge!"
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This is no real Chautauqua in this week's column other than
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the one that juxtaposes Satti and Hinton's lunacies against
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the words of Tom Jennings. Being an incurable optimist, I
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believe that we'll eventually return to the point where
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Fidonet exists solely as a cooperative effort among sysops
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and not as the fiefdom of Satti and his fartcatchers in the
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RCC.
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I must go Visage, the tide is turning which means that I'll
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be battling the Fiddler crabs for the rum if I don't hurry.
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Sorry about your car. How was I supposed to know that the
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shocks would give out after I'd loaded it with a mere 20
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tonnes of concrete?
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Regards,
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Doc Logger
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Furlang Island,
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South Pacific
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Future History
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17 May 1998
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Independence Day, Norway.
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22 May 1998
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Expo '98 World Exposition in Lisbon (Portugal) opens.
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14 Sep 1998
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Start of International BBS Week [thru 20 Sep 98].
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22 Sep 1998
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First anniversary of the FidoNews domain of www.fidonews.org.
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1 Dec 1998
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Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
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Tom Jennings.
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24 Jul 1999
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XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FidoNews PGP Public-Key Listing
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File-request FNEWSKEY from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] or download it from
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IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 anytime Zone 1 ZMH at 300-9600+ V34.
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The FidoNews key is also available on the FidoNews homepage listed
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in the Masthead information.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the Editor as
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of this appearance.
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NOTE: I am looking for a comprehensive list of Telnet, VMODEM, BinkP,
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Argus and other TCP/IP based nodes operating FidoNet on the
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InterNet, either by Zone or worldwide, to post here as well.
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- Ye Editor
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FidoNet:
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
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WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
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FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
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Echomail [MIA]
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WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
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General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ZEC2:
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Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/z2_elist/
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (in German)
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Region 25:
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http://www.trak-one.co.uk/net254
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (in French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (in Swiss?)
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Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (in Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (in Spanish)
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (in Greek and English)
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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Editor: Zorch Frezberg
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Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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Donald Tees, Christopher Baker
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"FidoNews Editor"
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FidoNet 1:1/23
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BBS 1-209-251-7529, 300/1200/2400/9600/V.34/V.90
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more addresses:
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Zorch Frezberg -- 1:205/1701, zorch@repairnet.com
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zorch@qnis.net
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zorch@kumr.lns.com
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(Postal Service mailing address)
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FidoNews Editor
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P.O. Box 642
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Fresno, CA 93709-0642
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U.S.A.
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voice: 1-209-446-9038 [voice mail = 'blind' numbers not returned]
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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
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INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
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of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
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authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
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does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
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these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
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FidoNews.
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Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
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Copyright 1998 Zorch Frezberg. All rights reserved. Duplication
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and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
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use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
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the Editor.
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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
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form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
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file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
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PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
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address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
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FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
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back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSFnn.ZIP] for a
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particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
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FIDONEWS 15-19 Page 16 11 May 1998
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where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
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current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.
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Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
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1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
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size from 48K to 1.4M.
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
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http://www.fidonews.org
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http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
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ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.aminet.org/pub/aminet/comm/fido/
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ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
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You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
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jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
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with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist
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and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the email
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distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist with no
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message to the same address above.
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You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
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by sending email to:
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ftpmail@fidonews.org
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with a Subject line of: help
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and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
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instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
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respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
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www.fidonews.org.
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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
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http://www.fidonews.org
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an email
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link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
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A PGP generated public-key is available for the FidoNews Editor from
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1:1/23 [1:205/1701] by file-request for FNEWSKEY or by download from
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IKVHFoT! BBS at 1-209-251-7529 as FIDONEWS.ASC in File Area X. It
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is also posted twice a month into the PKEY_DROP Echo available on the
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Zone 1 Echomail Backbone.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
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from 1:1/23 [1:205/1701] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone
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Coordinators also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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and are used with permission.
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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-Tom Jennings
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