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F I D O N E W S Volume 15, Number 46 16 Novenber 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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| obtaining copies of FidoNews or the internet gateway FAQ |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 2
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The Bride of FidoSpine - Echomail Drama Review ........... 2
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 3
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Into the void again ...................................... 3
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 5
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What's Not Happening ..................................... 5
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5. NOTICES .................................................. 7
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6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 8
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7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 11
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 1 16 Nov 1998
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,
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Sorry, but I really do not have much time this evening to write
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as I'm preparing for a business trip.
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One item which I'm totally disgusted with, is this EchoList/ELIST
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issue.
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More on this next week.
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Have a good one.
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 2 16 Nov 1998
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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The Bride of FidoSpine
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Echomail Drama Review
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Douglas Myers 1:270/720 doug@mdtnbbs.com
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If one were to stand with one ear to the Z1C echo and one to the
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BACKBONE echo... and if one were to listen very carefully, then on a
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quiet day one can hear the drama played out by the Stars. Actually,
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you probably don't need a hearing aid right now as the Northwestern
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Star moves into its ascendancy and the Southern Star threatens to go
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Supernova...
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The latest drama is about the lifeblood of Fidonet... echomail. It
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opens in a small monastery somewhere in the Southern Star, where
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Brother John is dutifully installing the inscriptions of the new
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Northwestern Star to the Holy Writings. Brother John is wary,
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though, when he discovers that the new star is supported by a
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FidoSpine rather than the North American Backbone found in all the
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faithful.
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The good Friar is wise to the ways of an ancient people who, as the
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legend goes, thrive on the very lifeblood of Fidonet. Suspecting
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that Count Bob may not be One Of Us, the monk unveils the Mirror of
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BoFaq... and finds that Count Bob casts no reflection upon it.
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The lastest installment closes on a cliffhanger, as Brother John
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calls upon the OBO Almighty to expose the Count to the light of day
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and drive him forever from the land. But the Count escapes to the
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darkness of his own castle, revealing that a secret pact has
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actually given him posession of the North American Backbone to be
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forever the Bride of Fidospine.
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Fans of Gothic Apocalypse should find this tale interesting. We
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at Fidonews give it "two thumbs up" and wait with bated breath for
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the consummation.
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| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
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| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 3 16 Nov 1998
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COLUMNS
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Dear EditorBeing,
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This article is submitted by Doc Logger (1:163/110) in the
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faint hopes that it will actually find its way into the
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Snooz on the fifth attempt. All appropriate small furry
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animals have been sacrificed as appeasements to the gods so
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that they can instill His Henkness with a vague
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understanding of what the word "editing" means.
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Roll da flic, Henk....
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Dear Reverend Visage,
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I know that you have probably been as amused as I have with
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the news that Billy Clinton is wagging the dog in another
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effort to distract the public. For this month's diversion,
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he has chosen to make sabre-rattling noises in the direction
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of Iraq. If CNN's Christian Amanpour would take the golf
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balls out of her mouth I might be able to understand what
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she is saying, but I think the gist of it is that US air
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forces are slated to bomb Iraq back into the Stone Age,
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which is apparently a different Stone Age from the last one
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they were allegedly bombed into.
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As you know, I am not the least bit cynical and fully
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believe that the Americans are engaging in another live-fire
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test over Baghdad for reasons that have everything to do
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with "keeping the world safe for democracy" and other piffle
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foisted on the gullible public by the State Department. I
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must have missed it, but I haven't quite seen any democratic
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elections in Kuwait recently - that bastion of personal
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freedom which the Western world so nobly defended. One can
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only hope that the good companies of France, who never met a
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moral issue that wasn't flexible, will garner the usual
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profits by selling arms to both sides in the conflict.
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You'll be so pleased to learn that Satti's lonely November
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thought was a petulant rant to Lynn Gipson who had stated
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the obvious - that Satti was about as useful as dimorphisms
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on a nun. The rattling of poor Satti's thought was made more
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amusing by the fact that he claimed to be running Fidonet
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through a series of netmail responses. The good news is that
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Satti's term of office is over in March and one hopes that
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the various RCs in Zone1 will find someone with vital life
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signs to take over the role.
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I see that Zone 2 has opened the floodgates to AntFarmMail
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by allowing IP addresses into the nodelist. Under the
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well-intentioned guise of opening up communications to a
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wider spectrum of users, they have put the kiss of death on
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Fidonet. Their argument is about as specious as suggesting
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 4 16 Nov 1998
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that Windows has made for more efficient usage of computers.
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The good news is that the new addressing will give Lisa
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Gronke, The Ministry of Fidonet Antiquities & Echomail
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Regularity, more things to talk about as she follows arcane
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paths and echomail routing schemes. The perpetual debates
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between Bob Seaborn and John Souvestre can now be seamlessly
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merged with the alt.guinea.pig.conspiracy newsgroup.
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For those Luddites who still read printed text, this week's
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recommendation is Nick Hornby's "High Fidelity." Hornby
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gives away a great many "guy team" secrets but the book is
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intelligently funny. Check it out.
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I must go, Visage. Your secretary has booked me to speak at
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this year's Swamp Swine Magazine Annual Awards dinner. The
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only award we won was for "outstanding fiction in petty cash
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vouchers" which was given in recognition of the fact that no
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one had ever claimed a brace of water buffalo as "research
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assistants." Your secretary is not a well woman, Visage, and
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the fact that she has taken up smoking cigars and winking at
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me is proof positive of that.
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Regards,
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Doc Logger,
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Furlang Island,
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South Pacific
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 5 16 Nov 1998
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NET HUMOR
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.-- -- -- -- -- -- WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING -- -- -- -- -- --.
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| There isn't always something happening on Fidonet, but |
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| there's always something which isn't happening. This |
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Douglas Myers doug@mdtnbbs.com 1:270/720
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NO ZEC NEED APPLY IN ZONE 1
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The Regional Echomail Coordinator's Council has emerged from months
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of secluded deliberations. Their action on the Zone Coordinator's
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charge to determine the method of election of their chairperson
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is... no action. The RECC has decided that it doesn't need a ZEC.
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Supporters of this resolution point out that echomail flows just
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fine despite the lack of a ZEC for the recent past. Pundits point
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out that the same arguement can be applied to the RECC. In the
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meantime, the RECC waits - ready to spring into inaction - while the
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ZC reviews their resolution to come to no decision.
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And no ZEC need apply...
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UNREQUESTING ECHOS
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The R13EC has introduced a new variation to the process of adding
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echoes to the North American Backbone. Normally, an echo is
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elisted, and then the moderator requests addition to the NAB. If
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two REC's subsequently request the echo for their region, it is then
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carried by the BACKBONE, available to all.
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In an interesting maneuver recently, the R13EC "unrequested" two of
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the echoes under consideration. It's not clear at this point
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whether this action cancels a "request" or if the action is strictly
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symbolic. It's not even clear what was wrong with the echos, as the
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R13EC tells us that the original unrequestor has not provided
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further information.
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This looks like a prime candidate for WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING, but just
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in case the idea catches on, here are some other echos for future
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unrequesting:
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CPLUSPLUSPLUS Assertiveness training for Fidonet Coordinators.
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Unrequested by programmers everywhere.
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AERHEAD Aerobic exercises for sinus disorders. Unrequested
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by the blonde lobby.
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ECHOLAW Discussion of the principles of sound propagation in
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 6 16 Nov 1998
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mountainous terrain. Unrequested by just about
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everyone.
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| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
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| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
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Future History
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23 Nov 1998
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35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.
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1 Dec 1998
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Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
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Tom Jennings.
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16 Feb 1999
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13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.
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12 May 1999
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12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
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10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
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24 Jul 1999
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XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
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9 Jun 1999
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Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
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10 Sep 1999
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10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
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26 Oct 1999
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Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
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31 Dec 1999
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Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
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1 Jan 2000
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The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
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1 Jun 2000
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EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
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15 Sep 2000
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Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
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21 Sep 2000
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10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
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1 Jan 2001
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This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
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-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
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Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
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FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
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FidoNet:
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Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
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WWW sources http://www.scms.rgu.ac.uk/students/cs_yr94/lk/fido.html
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http://travel.to/fidonet/
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FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
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Echomail [pending]
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WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
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General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
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http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti
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List servers:
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http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://www.compconn.net/r19
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Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ZEC2:
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Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4: http://www.altern.org/zone4
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Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
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Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
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and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
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no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
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that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
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should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
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TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
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to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k | $10/$20mo.
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1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
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1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
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1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo.
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1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE,F2I | 28.8 | $10/yr.
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1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $1mo.
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1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
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1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr.
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1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
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1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c
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1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
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2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
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2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
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2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c
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5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
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--
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+ VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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+ F2I = Fido2Int (W95)
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+ UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers
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compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 11 16 Nov 1998
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FIDONEWS INFORMATION
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------- FIDONEWS MASTHEAD AND CONTACT INFORMATION -------
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Editor: Henk Wolsink
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Editors Emeritii: Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell,
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Vince Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell,
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Donald Tees, Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg
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"FidoNews Editor"
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FidoNet 5:5/23
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BBS +27-41-515-913, 2400/9600/V.34/V.90
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more addresses:
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Henk Wolsink -- 5:7104/2, hwolsink@catpe.alt.za
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(Postal Service mailing address)
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FidoNews Editor
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P.O. Box 12325
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Port Elizabeth,
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6006
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South Africa
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FidoNews is published weekly by and for the members of the FIDONET
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INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
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of individual articles contributed by their authors or their
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authorized agents. The contribution of articles to this compilation
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does not diminish the rights of the authors. OPINIONS EXPRESSED in
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these articles ARE THOSE OF THE AUTHORS and not necessarily those of
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FidoNews and/or the Editor.
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Authors retain copyright on individual works; otherwise FidoNews is
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Copyright 1998 Henk Wolsink. All rights reserved. Duplication
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and/or distribution permitted for noncommercial purposes only. For
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use in other circumstances, please contact the original authors, or
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the Editor.
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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
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form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
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file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
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PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
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address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
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FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
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back Issue filenames in distribution format [FNEWSFnn.ZIP] for a
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particular Issue. Monthly Volumes are available as FNWSmmmy.ZIP
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where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
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current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 12 16 Nov 1998
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Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
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1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
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size from 48K to 1.4M.
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
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http://www.fidonews.org
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http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
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ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
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And in non-English formats via:
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http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
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http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)
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You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
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jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
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with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist
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and no message in the message body. To remove your name from the
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email distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist
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with no message to the same address above.
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You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
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by sending email to:
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ftpmail@fidonews.org
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with a Subject line of: help
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and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
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instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
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respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
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www.fidonews.org.
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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
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http://www.fidonews.org
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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FIDONEWS 15-46 Page 13 16 Nov 1998
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for that year's issues. The total set is currently about 13 Megs.
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
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email link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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ARTSPEC.DOC, available from the FidoNews Editor, or file-requestable
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from 5:5/23 [5:7104/2] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
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also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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and are used with permission.
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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and create the requisite chaos."
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-Tom Jennings
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