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F I D O N E W S Volume 15, Number 47 23 November 1998
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| _ | +27-41-515-913 [5:5/23] |
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| | (*) | \ )) | Henk Wolsink 5:7104/2 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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| For information, copyrights, article submissions, |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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2. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 3
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Interaction - Douglas Myers .............................. 3
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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Small things make up a lot ............................... 4
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ECHOLADE - refreshing echomail. Hans Mangold explains ... 5
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FTSC Elections ........................................... 6
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Result of RC election in region 2:20 (Sweden) ............ 11
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Santronics Software Announcement ......................... 12
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4. COLUMNS .................................................. 14
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What's Not Happening - Zorch Frezberg, Trustee ........... 14
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5. NOTICES .................................................. 16
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6. FIDONET BY INTERNET ...................................... 17
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7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 20
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 1 23 Nov 1998
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EDITORIAL
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Greetings,
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What a week it was. Travelled to much, thank you!
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On the subject of being disgusted, remember? :-)
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Take this scenario:
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The moderator of 'X' echo, has the password to amend and/or change
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it's entry and whatever it needs to do, in order to keep said echo
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on the backbone. Great, nothing difficult about that.
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A new moderator is appointed and takes over the duties of said echo.
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He/she does not have the password in order to sent the update, but
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the update is politely done by the ex-moderator. Great, still not
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difficult.
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The new moderator wants to update the details (or whatever) him/her-
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self but without the said password, is unable to do so. Now what?
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So how does the newly appointed moderator obtain the current
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password? One of two ways, as I see it. Great, nothing difficult
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about that.
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The new moderator contacts the ex-moderator and request said password
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with no results. However, the list keeper ofcourse, knows the said
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password by means of looking it up in the database, or such similar
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setup and could pass it on to the newly appointed moderator OR, do
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the changes for said moderator.
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Whats the moral of the story? Let me explain as I see it:
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The list keeper has NO right to -
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a. supply the new moderator the current password or
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b. change the password or
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c. change details of the echo with permission of the password
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holder. ie. Ex-moderator in the above scenario.
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BUT, the details have been changed, now what?
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What it means, is that the list keeping system is no longer 'secure'
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and can be changed at will by any one and sundry.
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This is a sad state affairs for FidoNet, since echomail is one item,
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which keeps FidoNet allive and well!
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Secrecy has been violated! Get rid of the echolist keeping system.
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It's useless with what has happened recently!
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Great, so what is so difficult keeping a password secret?
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I know, there will be readers who will e-mail/netmail me about the
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bove, but remember, if the shoe fits, wear it.
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 2 23 Nov 1998
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Should commercial advertising be allowed in FidoNews? YES and NO.
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Let me explain YES and NO.
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YES - if it is related to BBS's and/or FidoNet or both, I will allow
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it.
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NO - if it has nothing to do with either of the above, simple.
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If you have a new version or new product which does something for
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BBS's or FidoNet, it can be advertised in FidoNews.
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If you have a web site which promotes FidoNet, it may advertised
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in FidoNews. If said web site promotes porno, stay away, it will not
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be allowed in FidoNews. I'm sure you get my meaning. ;-)
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Happy reading,
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 3 23 Nov 1998
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GUEST EDITORIAL
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Interaction - Douglas Myers
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INTERACTION
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Doug Myers
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I'd like to welcome Bob Satti back to the Z1C echo. Bob, you're
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actually giving better than you're getting right now - keep up the
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interaction. What's important about your interaction is the
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debunking effect it has. Folks really want to know what's going on
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with Fido, and the imagination will readily supply any details
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necessary to fill in the picture. When you are remote, the echoes
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fill with stories of vast conspiracies, awesome power struggles, and
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plots to keep the proletariat sysops firmly ground beneath the heel.
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On the other hand, it was kinda good for this individual - who isn't
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otherwise "in the know" - to hear that Bob Kohl's denials just
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weren't that important to you, that every message that crosses your
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system isn't made public because it's just too damned much trouble,
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and that "noted" isn't really a ritual damnation.
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As for our own behavior... well, I can't control it any more than
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you control all things in Fidonet.
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Clay Tannacore will continue to believe you when you say Kohl
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resigned, then have doubts when Kohl denies it. Perhaps you could
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dig up the archives to satisfy him, but you'll continue to be in the
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position of having the authority to do what you want so long as you
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justify it to him and don't set any precedents.
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Lynn Gypson will continue to want more input than you have to give.
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She's not a troublemaker, but she does think you have more time and
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resources than any one guy could muster in a lifetime.
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Darrell Slater will continue to ask you to resign. There's nothing
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you can do about it - you're at the top of a structure he doesn't
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believe in and empowered by a policy he doesn't think is legitimate.
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You would need to fire the RCC and void Policy 4 to satisfy him, and
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I doubt that this is within your power.
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And folks will continue to demand leadership while insisting that
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you're no more than a nodelist clerk. It's the nature of the family.
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| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
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| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 4 23 Nov 1998
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ARTICLES
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Small things make up a lot
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by Adriano Garcia*, from Uberaba/MG, Brazil (1:396/45.19)
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Since my last article on FidoNews (in fact it was a guest editorial)
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I've been getting a lot of feedback of Fido folks discussing the
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issues of promoting the net and the BBSing hobby in general. So
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I decided to repeat the great effort - and pleasure - of writing
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an article discussing the trends that go with this hobby of ours.
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There is a lot of discouraged people out there. And there's plenty
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of reasons for that and one have just to read the sysop conferences
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to find them out. Every single good cause that is brought up is
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carefully taken down by old fashioned rivalry. Now that I've given
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up on talking about the ever renewing fights between sysops, now
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I'm taking a broader view to encompass promoting BBSes in general.
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Not long ago, I've subscribed to the PROMOTE_BBS echo. When I did
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it, I thought that BBSing really needs to be promoted if we want
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to keep it alive for ourselves in the future. I won't dare to say
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that we have to keep it to ours sons and grandsons because I'm
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still 24 <g> and also because, in this ever changing world of
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online connection, it just may be to 'dreamy' now.
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Now back to the real world. When I got my first packet of
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PROMOTE_BBS (in fact a rescanned one), all I could see was a bunch
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of new ideas brought down by people discussing - guess? - elections
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for a so-called entity designed to help promoting BBSes. Now what?
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Do we need to setup a political chain just to say what we have to
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do to promote the system we know so well? How would it work on
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a local situation? Will that lonely sysop from Troy, PA, have to
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wait for a decision from a Board of Directors to start a local
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campaign according to the objectives of the council?
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Why do we have to centralize and build up a chain of command? Why
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don't people just get together on local chapters to promote the
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system on the local level and start a forum to discuss and
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share their experiences?
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Somebody told me once that humans are political by nature. Maybe he
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told me that because politics replaced physical violence with the
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violence of words. I cannot understand what is the difference between
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killing somebody with words or with a gun. They both simbolize the
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same kind of action.
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As happens with pennies and relationships, small pieces make up
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a lot sometimes, mainly because they are so small that they aren't
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accounted for until they become big things. But, many times, big
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things are also very hard to face and when they get bigger they
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are harder to ignore and destroy.
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 5 23 Nov 1998
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With this kind of actions between people that were supposed to be
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allies, we are just creating those small things that will keep many
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away from BBSing and from FidoNet.
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* Adriano Garcia is a Brazilian journalist, living in Uberaba, Brazil
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and has been a sysop (former 4:801/53) from 1992 to 1994.
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ECHOLADE - refreshing echomail. Hans Mangold explains the Exodus
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. -- -- -- -- -- ECHOLADE - -- -- -- -- .
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| A refreshing extract from Fido's echoes |
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| Purloined without permission by D Myers |
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` -- -- -- -- -- -- - -- -- -- -- -- -- '
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In this response to Bob Short, Hans Mangold counters the theory that
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the style of posting in FN_SYSOP is responsible for the exodus of
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Fidonet Sysops.
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-- -- --
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BS> If the majority of departing fido sysops feel as I do about the
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BS> sort of BS that goes on in this echo (and a few others, to be
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BS> fair), I'd wager this was a contributing factor in their
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BS> decision to leave the net.
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Bob, please -- whatever happens in this echo, Z1C, or elsewhere,
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makes little difference. Open your eyes and look at the traffic in
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the once popular echoes, like Genealogy, once 550 and more messages
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per day, now 2.3 (yes, two-point-three). And that was/is a well
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moderated echo!
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My BBS was once upon a time the busiest in our entire Region; heck,
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I'm sure there were times (days, weeks) when more echomail from BBS
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callers originated here than anywhere else in Zone 1. Today, Nov.
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17, 1998, my system is the only BBS left in our city. With all of
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the promotions I've done here, including feature articles in the
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Daily Newspaper, Fido was/is very well known around here -- but the
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thousands of people who once enjoyed Fido locally prefer the
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internet today. As Yogi Berra would have said: if people don't want
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to call my BBS, there's nothing I can do to stop them.
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Even having an "exclusive" in our fair city now, I'm down to two or
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three BBS callers per day, four on a rainy day. That is the reason
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many SysOps pull the plug -- not seeing any purpose anymore to all
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of the work that goes into running a system.
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So, please, don't bother blaming FN_SYSOP for the decline in Fidonet
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-- BBS callers don't have access and SysOps suit themselves -- some
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participate, others just lurk, and the majority doesn't waste HD
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space for the traffic. The most recent FN_SYSOP moderator election
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produced 57 votes. 57 -- for an _international_ sysop echo. Think
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about it. The annual election was a chance for change -- 10 votes
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 6 23 Nov 1998
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were cast for the former moderator, and 47 for other candidates --
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only 47 wanted change! =If= your philosophy had any merit, e.g.
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blaming FN_SYSOP for disappearing nodes, I'm sure more than 47 out
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of (almost) 20,000 nodes would have sent a clear signal. Instead,
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the signal was one of "who cares about FN_SYSOP"..... :-(
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No use crying over spilled milk and lingering in the past. Surely
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Fidonet will sort itself out as time progresses; some of us have
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Fido in our blood and we'll stick around for a long time to come --
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for our own pleasure more so than for the pleasure of (non-existent)
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BBS callers. Others see it as a waste of time and will drop out --
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I mean, Fido once upon a time was a great resource for technical
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information. Now, look at it -- once popular echoes like HS_MODEMS
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(with Rick Collins as excellent moderator) don't have one single
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message for =weeks=. Not a pretty picture all around, and no easy
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solutions.
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Sysops have always come and gone in the past; only difference today
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is that it is no longer the ambition of every kid with a PC in town
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to become a sysop when ICQ has so much more to offer to the "instant
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society". The state of FN_SYSOP has little influence on existing
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nodes; guess Randy Bush was right after all.
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| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
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| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
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| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
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| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
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FTSC Elections
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by Goran Eriksson, 2:201/505, get@get.pp.se
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Odinn Sorensen has informed us that he wants step down as FTSC
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Administrator as soon as another person is ready to take over that
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office.
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Furthermore, a number of FTSC Standing Members have resigned.
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To fill these vacancies, there will be two separate elections:
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1. An election for new Standing Members.
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Number of positions to be filled:
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Not a definite number. According to FTA-1001 the FTSC shall
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have no less than 7 and no more than 30 members. Therefore a
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minimum of 0 and a maximum of 11 new Standing Members may be
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appointed.
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Eligibility for appointment:
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See FTA-1001.
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Nominations:
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Special nominating committees are not planned at this time.
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Anyone wishing to be nominated or wishing to nominate someone
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should therefore contact a FidoNet RC or REC of their own
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choice, soliciting support for the nomination. The nomination
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period starts immediately and ends on 1998-12-10 at 24:00 UTC.
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RC's and REC's wishing to nominate someone should do so to the
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election administrator. RC's and REC's are encouraged to send
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their nominations by crash mail. If they choose to use routed
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netmail they do so on their own risk. RC's and REC's may
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nominate multiple candidates. As well from inside their
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respective regions as from outside. The election administrator
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shall no later than 1998-12-11 at 24:00 UTC publish a list of
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the received valid nominations in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail
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conference. The election administrator shall also send a copy
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of this list to each nodelisted RC and REC.
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Votes:
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Only votes from nodelisted RC's and REC's will be accepted
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provided that they are received by the election administrator
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no earlier than 1998-12-11 at 00:00 UTC and no later than
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1998-12-31 at 24:00 UTC. RC's and REC's are encouraged to send
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their votes by crash mail. If they choose to use routed netmail
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they do so on their own risk. Votes for Standing Members should
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indicate what candidates each voter is supporting. Only those
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candidates obtaining support from more than 50 % of the total
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number of RC's and REC's casting valid votes will be considered
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successfull. Successfull candidates will be appointed according
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to the total number of supportive votes they have received. The
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one with the highest number of supportive votes will be
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appointed first etc. If more than one successfull candidate
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compete for the last Standing Member position to be filled
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(making the total number of FTSC members equal to 30) with the
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same number of supportive votes, the ZCC will be requested to
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appoint theat Standing Member from among theses competing
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successfull candidates. If the ZCC has not communicated it's
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decision in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail conference before
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1999-01-31 at 24:00 UTC, that last position will remain
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unfilled.
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Results:
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The election administrator shall publish the election result in
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the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail conference no later than on 1999-01-07
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at 24:00 UTC. In case of a tie about the last position to be
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filled this result may be supplemented by the ZCC decision as
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above no later than 1999-01-31 at 24:00 UTC.
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Term of office:
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Elected candidates will be appointed for a period that ends
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2000-09-30.
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2. An election for a new FTSC Administrator.
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Number of positions to be filled:
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1
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Responsibilities:
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See FTA-1001.
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Elegibility for appointment:
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See FTA-1001.
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Nominations:
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Anyone wishing to be nominated or wishing to nominate someone
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should therefore contact a current FTSC Standing Member (who
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has not resigned) of their own choice, soliciting support for
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the nomination. The nomination period starts immediately and
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ends on 1998-12-10 at 24:00 UTC. FTSC Standing Members wishing
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to nominate someone should do so to the election administrator.
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FTSC Standing Members area encouraged to send their nominations
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by crash mail. If they choose to use routed netmail they do so
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on their own risk. FTSC Standing Members may nominate multiple
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candidates. The election administrator shall no later than
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1998-12-11 at 24:00 UTC publish a list of the received valid
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nominations in the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail conference. The
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election administrator shall also send a copy of this list to
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each current Standing Member of the FTSC.
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Votes:
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Only votes from FTSC Standing Members as per current version of
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FTA-1003 who have not resigned from their position will be
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accepted provided that they are received by the election
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administrator no earlier than 1998-12-11 at 00:00 UTC and no
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later than 1998-12-31 at 24:00 UTC. FTSC Standing Members are
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encouraged to send their votes by crash mail. If they choose to
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use routed netmail they do so on their own risk.
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Results:
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The election administrator shall publish the election result in
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the FTSC_PUBLIC echomail conference no later than 1999-01-07 at
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24:00 UTC.
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Term of office:
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The elected candidate will be appointed for a period that ends
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2002-12-31.
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As election administrator for both elections, Mario Mure' has been
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appointed.
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FidoNet address: Mario Mure', 2:335/533
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Internet address: mure@sistemia.it
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"Nodelisted RC" is interpreted as anyone in the FidoNet nodelist
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(current on 1998-12-11) shown as the operator of a system with the
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Region keyword as per FTS-5.
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"Nodelisted REC" is interpreted as the first person in the FidoNet
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nodelist (current on 1998-12-11) identified as the REC of her/his
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region. Identification by a REC user flag in the nodelist is the
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preferred way for identification.
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If any single person occupies both the RC and the REC position for
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her/his region, she/he is entitled to two votes.
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FTA documents can be file requested from 2:236/77 or downloaded from
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http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc. They can also be found on a number of
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FidoNet systems as well as on a number of ftp and web servers
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worldwide.
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The more important sections from FTA-1001 and FTA-1003 are reproduced
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below.
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From FTA-1001:
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 9 23 Nov 1998
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3.1 FTSC Administrator
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----------------------
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The FTSC administrator is appointed for a four year renewable term.
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To be eligible for appointment, an individual must be a Fidonet
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node, be actively involved in Fidonet, though not necessarily in a
|
|
programming context, and should have proven organizational skills.
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A candidate need not be a member of the FTSC. It is recommended
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that a successful candidate not carry any *C or *EC
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responsibilities during the term of office.
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A candidate for FTSC Administrator may be nominated by any Standing
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Member.
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The FTSC Administrator is appointed on the basis of a vote by all
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Standing Members who are defined by the then-current edition of
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FTA-1003 (FTSC Membership List). A successful candidate must
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receive approval by at least a plurality of votes.
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Publication of the nominations and the voting procedure shall take
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place openly in the FTSC_PUBLIC echo, and voting shall close three
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weeks after publication of the vote. Votes shall be by netmail
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ballot to an independent enumerator.
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Responsibilities:
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1. Ensuring FTSC Mandate is adhered to.
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2. Facilitating communications links between members.
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3. Maintaining document distribution links.
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4. Coordinating all membership nominations and voting.
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5. Developing Working Groups as required.
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6. Ensuring that the FTSC seeks, accepts and responds to public
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input.
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7. Assigning FSP numbers to new Standards Proposals.
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3.2 FTSC Standing Members
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-------------------------
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FTSC members are appointed for a two year renewable term. [50 % of
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appointments on initial formation of the FTSC shall be for a 3 year
|
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renewable term, to ensure continuity of the Committee on expiry of
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the terms.]
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To be selected as a FTSC member, an individual must be a Fidonet
|
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node, and should be actively involved in Fidonet. Examples include
|
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having put out a Fidonet-related product or having updated a
|
|
product in the preceding two years, or having experience as a
|
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Coordinator, Echomail Coordinator or mail or file Hub.
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Standing members may be nominated Fidonet-wide by all of the
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following methods:
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1. Any RC or REC.
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2. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the FTSC.
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 10 23 Nov 1998
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3. A nominating committee established for the purpose by the ZCC.
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A nominating committee may not consist of any current member or
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officer of the FTSC.
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Standing members are appointed on the basis of a vote by all RCs
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and RECs who are nodelisted as holding those positions at the time
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the nominations are published. A successful candidate must receive
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approval by a majority of votes.
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Publication of the nomination and the voting procedure, and posting
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of RC and REC votes, shall take place openly in the FTSC_PUBLIC
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echo, and voting shall close three weeks after publication of the
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vote.
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From FTA-1003 (indications as to what members have resigned have been
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added):
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1. FTSC Administrator
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---------------------
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Odinn Sorensen, 2:236/77, appointed until 01 Dec 2001.
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2. FTSC Standing Members
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------------------------
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Name Node What Appointed until
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---------------------------------------------------------
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Richard Bash 1:231/45 01 Oct 1999 Resigned
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Ron Bemis 1:124/1113 01 Oct 1999
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Mike Bilow 1:323/107 FP-OS/2 01 Oct 2000
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Craig Box 3:774/950 01 Oct 2000 Resigned
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Tobias Burchhardt 2:2448/400 FastEcho 01 Oct 2000
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Goran Eriksson 2:201/505 01 Oct 1999
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Bjorn Felten 2:203/208 01 Oct 1999
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Zorch Frezberg 1:205/0 01 Oct 1999
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Joaquim Homrighausen 2:201/330 Frodo 01 Oct 2000
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Rune Johansen 2:210/20 01 Oct 2000 Resigned
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Peter Karlsson 2:206/221 Announcer 01 Oct 1999
|
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Andreas Klein 2:2480/47 Imail 01 Oct 2000
|
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Michael McCabe 1:297/11 FNS 01 Oct 1999
|
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Gary Price 1:3607/26 TriBBS 01 Oct 1999
|
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Carlos Fernandez Sanz 2:341/70 CFRoute 01 Oct 2000
|
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Tom Schlangen 2:2450/10 BT-XE 01 Oct 2000 Resigned
|
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Benjamin Schollnick 1:2613/477 QuickBBS 01 Oct 2000
|
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Odinn Sorensen 2:236/77 GoldED 01 Oct 2000
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Jason Steck 1:285/424 Jmail 01 Oct 1999
|
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Robert Szarka 1:320/42 WaterGate 01 Oct 2000
|
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Francois Thunus 2:270/25 01 Oct 1999 Resigned
|
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Colin Turner 2:443/13 01 Oct 1999
|
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Thomas Waldmann 2:2474/400 BT-XE 01 Oct 2000
|
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Mats Wallin 2:201/329 FDAPX 01 Oct 2000
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Any assistance in bringing this message to the attention of all
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 11 23 Nov 1998
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concerned/interested parties would be appreciated. Cross-posting in
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any relevant echomail conference is encouraged.
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Result of RC election in region 2:20
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by Peter Karlsson, 2:206/221.0, pk@abc.se
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We've had an election for the RC position, following the procedure set
|
|
forth in the document "FidoNet Zone 2 document NC_ELECT.Z2 V1.0".
|
|
It seems, however, that no-one remember to notify FidoNews, so here it
|
|
is, the official election statement from the election presider
|
|
(translated into English by me):
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|
Forwarded (from: R20_KANDIDAT) (translated)
|
|
Originally from Hakan Andersson (2:201/600).
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Well, then the RC election is over for this time.
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The election superviser, Henrik O A Barkman (2:205/0), has gone
|
|
through all the data for the whole election, and has acknowledged the
|
|
election results.
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|
Thomas Tydal (2:206/224), has with his total of 16 votes (33.33%) won
|
|
this election, and thus been appointed the new regional coordinator
|
|
(RC) for region 20.
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|
|
Congratulations to Thomas Tydal!
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|
|
|
I thank the superviser, Henrik O A Barkman, for his contribution to
|
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this election.
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//Hakan Andersson - Election presidier
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___
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- Origin: AreaRobot (2:201/600)
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And here is the result summary (translated):
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|
=== Summary of: RC98
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|
=== RC98 (Pvt) 1998.10.12 -> 1998.10.25 [(null)]
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|
Here is the result of the election of region coordinator (RC)
|
|
in FidoNet region 20, zone 2, 1998:
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Candidate Votes
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|
--------- -----
|
|
1. Thomas Tydal .......... Total: 16
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|
2. Bjorn Poppe ........... Total: 11
|
|
3. Per Lundberg .......... Total: 10
|
|
4. Rasmus Kjellman ....... Total: 8
|
|
5. Johan Segernas ........ Total: 3
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 12 23 Nov 1998
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|
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
|
|
|
|
Santronics Software Announces the purchase of Mustang Software's,
|
|
Wildcat! BBS Product Line
|
|
|
|
Homestead, Florida, November 19, 1998 - Santronics Software, Inc., a
|
|
leading developer of automated mail distribution software today
|
|
announces the purchase of the Wildcat! Interactive Net Server
|
|
(WINServer) for Windows 95/NT/98 "Intranet" products, including all
|
|
add-on modules, Wildcat! DOS and add-on modules, and Offline Xpress
|
|
from Mustang Software, Inc.
|
|
|
|
These popular and powerful 32 bit Windows and DOS based online service
|
|
software products have been in the market for over 12 years with a
|
|
solid reputation for excellent engineering and reliable design. To
|
|
date Mustang's products have accumulated over 50,000 licensed
|
|
customers worldwide.
|
|
|
|
"Wildcat! was an outstanding foundation for the creation of a great
|
|
company," said Jim Harrer, president and chief executive officer of
|
|
Mustang Software. "Based on the rapid growth of the Internet Message
|
|
Center as the leading e-mail management solution, the time has come to
|
|
transition Wildcat! Santronics will provide the support and
|
|
development necessary to continue the strong Wildcat! tradition for
|
|
present and future customers worldwide."
|
|
|
|
Santronics Software is renowned for the quality and support of its
|
|
flagship product, Platinum Xpress (PX). PX is an popular add-on module
|
|
to the WINServer system. Santronics is a qualified and knowledgeable
|
|
developer of WINServer software and the current Wildcat! customer base
|
|
is more than familiar with Santronics' excellent reputation.
|
|
|
|
"We believe in Wildcat! We believe we can take it to the next level
|
|
and continue to make it a top Internet product. As an organization, we
|
|
will focus on Wildcat!'s development and provide the support and total
|
|
commitment the product needs to reach this goal," said Hector Santos,
|
|
president and R&D Director of Santronics Software.
|
|
|
|
Effective immediately, Santronics plans a complete review of the
|
|
WINServer product line and to provide the customer base a renewed
|
|
commitment to Wildcat! by developing new features into the system and
|
|
by focusing on customer input for the direction of the product line.
|
|
|
|
"The Internet is rapidly changing. Everyone has a basic idea of what
|
|
they want to do but the solutions come in many pieces. Santronics
|
|
wants to tell the world that WINServer is an ideal solution for the
|
|
Internet with features unique to the market," said Mr. Santos.
|
|
|
|
Santronics plans to integrate the company's current Silver Xpress
|
|
Offline Mail System with the Offline Xpress for Windows version
|
|
(OLX/Win). The end result will be a powerful new "all purpose"
|
|
offline Mail Reader for Windows. Silver Xpress will remain available
|
|
as a DOS based offline mail reader.
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 13 23 Nov 1998
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|
|
|
|
Effective immediately, all sales questions or inquiries about this
|
|
purchase or Wildcat!, WINServer, etc. should be directed to Andrea
|
|
Santos, Marketing Director at Santronics, at 305-248-3204 or
|
|
asantos@santronics.com.
|
|
|
|
About Santronics Software, Inc.
|
|
|
|
Santronics Software, Inc. provides powerful, interactive, and
|
|
automated solutions in the communications and Internet world.
|
|
|
|
Santronics Software's corporate headquarters is located at 15600
|
|
SW 288 St., Suite 306, Homestead, Florida, 33033. Inquiries can be
|
|
addressed via voice, 305-248-3204; fax, 305-248-3638; and e-mail,
|
|
sales@santronics.com; or by visiting Santronics Software on the web at
|
|
http://www.santronics.com. About Mustang Software, Inc.
|
|
|
|
Mustang Software, Inc. delivers creative e-mail management solutions
|
|
through a combination of the company's unique Web Essentials tools,
|
|
its unparalleled e-mail management experience and expertise and world-
|
|
class alliance partnerships. Mustang's Web Essentials line of tools
|
|
includes the award-winning Internet Message Center, ListCaster and
|
|
FileCenter.
|
|
|
|
Mustang Software's corporate headquarters is located at 6200 Lake Ming
|
|
Road, Bakersfield, Calif., 93306. Inquiries can be addressed via
|
|
voice, 805-873-2500; fax, 805-873-2599; and e-mail, info@mustang.com,
|
|
or by visiting Mustang Software on the web at http://www.mustang.com.
|
|
|
|
Mustang Software, Inc. is a public company, traded on NASDAQ under the
|
|
symbol MSTGC.
|
|
|
|
ANDREA SANTOS
|
|
asantos@santronics.com
|
|
http://www.santronics.com
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 14 23 Nov 1998
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=================================================================
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COLUMNS
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=================================================================
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|
What's Not Happening - Zorch Frezberg, Trustee
|
|
|
|
.-- -- -- -- -- -- WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING -- -- -- -- -- --.
|
|
| There isn't always something happening on Fidonet, but |
|
|
| there's always something which isn't happening. This |
|
|
| column is dedicated to the lost causes which make Fido |
|
|
| what it isn't today. Published semi-occasionally... |
|
|
`-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --'
|
|
Douglas Myers 1:270/720 doug@mdtnbbs.com
|
|
|
|
IN ZORCH WE TRUST...
|
|
|
|
While most Fidonet echoes are considered the property of their
|
|
listed moderator for administrative purposes, most moderators
|
|
consider themselves stewards of their echo for the participants.
|
|
FN_SYSOP takes this concept one step further, explicitly naming the
|
|
Fidonet Sysops as owners of the echo, and mandating an annual
|
|
election of the moderator. The sysops of FN_SYSOP recently elected
|
|
Rob Ferrara as the new moderator, replacing Zorch Frezberg as the
|
|
previous moderator.
|
|
|
|
That's what happened... now for what didn't happen.
|
|
|
|
One of the major responsibilities of a moderator is to maintain an
|
|
accurate listing with the Echolist Robot. Rob was never given the
|
|
password to accomplish this himself... instead, Zorch Frezberg
|
|
updated the listing, but retained the password unto himself.
|
|
Realizing that he was locked out of the future capability of
|
|
discharging his obligation without the password, Rob Ferrara
|
|
corresponded with Thom LaCosta (the Echolist Robot Keeper)
|
|
explaining the situation and requesting that the password be changed
|
|
to one of his choosing. Thom, considering the recent election as
|
|
sufficient proof that Rob is the legitimate moderator, made that
|
|
change.
|
|
|
|
Thom immediately came under fire for this gross application of common
|
|
sense. Zorch Frezberg revealed a secret "trusteeship," - previously
|
|
unknown to all but himself, Bob Moravsik, and Bob Kohl - which
|
|
mandated that Zorch should retain the password in trust for Rob.
|
|
Complicating this claim is the fact that such an arrangement is not
|
|
written into the echo rules and that no such trusteeship was known
|
|
to the sysops of the echo either before or during the vote.
|
|
Nonetheless, Thom LaCosta is characterized as dishonest by Zorch,
|
|
Bob, and Bob for changing the password and thwarting the (as yet
|
|
unrevealed) purpose of the "trusteeship."
|
|
|
|
Is there any substance to the claim that the password should be held
|
|
in trust? Apparently, such an arrangement existed in the past.
|
|
FN_SYSOP was on the backbone for years before it became common to
|
|
elist echoes. In the initial years when FN_SYSOP was listed, the
|
|
moderator then didn't wish to maintain the listing, so it was
|
|
FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 15 23 Nov 1998
|
|
|
|
|
|
handled by another individual. It's further apparent that Bob
|
|
Morasvik held the password through the terms of several moderators
|
|
without revealing it to them, but then losing it after he revealed
|
|
it to another individual. Ironically, no other individual held the
|
|
password while Zorch Frezberg was moderator.
|
|
|
|
But did these arrangements constitute a trust? There's no record of
|
|
the matter ever being discussed among the sysops, presumably the
|
|
group who would grant such a trust. There's certainly nothing
|
|
written in the echo rules or any other public record. Furthermore,
|
|
the sysops in the echo seem to overwhelmingly reject the idea that
|
|
the password should be withheld from the elected moderator.
|
|
|
|
And Rob Ferrara is adamant that he only share the password with an
|
|
individual of his choosing. A cursory look at those who are
|
|
advocating the "trusteeship" would seem to lend credibility to his
|
|
attitude:
|
|
|
|
Zorch Frezberg - Zorch is the moderator who was just voted out of
|
|
office, which might hint at a lack of trust by the sysops in the
|
|
echo. Zorch is accused of several irregularities in the past two
|
|
years, including the filing of a frivolous policy complaint and
|
|
voting multiple times in the last ZEC election (admittedly, this
|
|
latter is unproven - or at least unpersued, but widely believed).
|
|
Is this the kind of person the sysops would want as a "trustee?"
|
|
|
|
Bob Morasvik - Bob is widely known for his "legal" assumption of
|
|
echoes. His past practice is to target echoes which are about to
|
|
expire from the elist, and then flood the robot with elist entries
|
|
in the hope that the current moderator will fail to update in time.
|
|
Among his "successes" are the administrative echoes in his region,
|
|
now unused as the regional officers were forced to list alternate
|
|
echoes for regional conversation. Is this "trustee" material?
|
|
|
|
Bob Kohl - This Bob resigned under pressure as Regional Coordinator.
|
|
He is most remembered for revealing in-transit netmail and driving
|
|
one of the nets in his region to relocate to another region. He was
|
|
removed as Zone Echomail Coordinator by the Zone Coordinator at the
|
|
request of the Regional Echomail Coordinators. Is this "trustee"
|
|
material?
|
|
|
|
The above three individuals are still demanding that Thom LaCosta
|
|
re-establish the old password and endorse the "trusteeship," but so
|
|
far this is still What's Not Happening.
|
|
|
|
--
|
|
| Fidonet: Douglas Myers 1:270/720@fidonet.org
|
|
| Internet: doug@mdtnbbs.com
|
|
| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own.
|
|
| From Mdtn_BBS @mdtnbbs.com [ In the Heart of Three Mile Island ]
|
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|
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 16 23 Nov 1998
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=================================================================
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NOTICES
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=================================================================
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|
Future History
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|
|
|
23 Nov 1998
|
|
35th Anniversary of Doctor Who.
|
|
|
|
1 Dec 1998
|
|
Fifteenth Anniversary of release of Fido version 1 by
|
|
Tom Jennings.
|
|
|
|
16 Feb 1999
|
|
13th Anniversary of the introduction of EchoMail by Jeff Rush.
|
|
|
|
12 May 1999
|
|
12th Anniversary of Fido Operations in Zone 4;
|
|
10th Anniversary of the creation of FidoNet Zone 4.
|
|
|
|
24 Jul 1999
|
|
XIII Pan American Games [through 8 Aug 99].
|
|
|
|
9 Jun 1999
|
|
Tenth Anniversary of the adoption of FidoNet Policy 4.07.
|
|
|
|
10 Sep 1999
|
|
10th anniversary of Zone 5 operations.
|
|
|
|
26 Oct 1999
|
|
Thirty years from release Abbey Road album by the Beatles.
|
|
|
|
31 Dec 1999
|
|
Hogmanay, Scotland. The New Year that can't be missed.
|
|
|
|
1 Jan 2000
|
|
The 20th Century, C.E., is still taking place thru 31 Dec.
|
|
|
|
1 Jun 2000
|
|
EXPO 2000 World Exposition in Hannover (Germany) opens.
|
|
|
|
15 Sep 2000
|
|
Sydney (Australia) Summer Olympiad opens.
|
|
|
|
21 Sep 2000
|
|
10 years of FidoNet in +7 (xUSSR)
|
|
|
|
1 Jan 2001
|
|
This is the actual start of the new millennium, C.E.
|
|
|
|
-- If YOU have something which you would like to see in this
|
|
Future History, please send a note to the FidoNews Editor.
|
|
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|
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 17 23 Nov 1998
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=================================================================
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FIDONET BY INTERNET
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=================================================================
|
|
|
|
This is a list of all FidoNet-related sites reported to the
|
|
FidoNews Editor as of this issue; see the notice at the end.
|
|
|
|
FidoNet:
|
|
|
|
Homepage http://www.fidonet.org
|
|
FidoNews http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
|
|
http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html [ASCII]
|
|
WWW sources http://travel.to/fidonet/
|
|
FTSC page http://www.goldware.dk/ftsc
|
|
Echomail [pending]
|
|
WebRing http://ddi.digital.net/~cbaker84/fnetring.html [TFN]
|
|
General http://owls.com/~jerrys/fidonet.html
|
|
http://www.trak-one.co.uk/foti
|
|
List servers:
|
|
http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
|
|
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|
============
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|
|
|
Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
|
|
|
|
Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
|
|
|
|
Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
|
|
|
|
Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
|
|
|
|
Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
|
|
|
|
Region 19: http://www.compconn.net/r19
|
|
|
|
Zone 1 Elist http://www.baltimoremd.com/elist/
|
|
|
|
============
|
|
|
|
Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
|
|
|
|
ZEC2:
|
|
Zone 2 Elist: http://www.fbone.ch/echolist/
|
|
|
|
Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
|
|
|
|
Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
|
|
|
|
Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/~lbehet/fido (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.bsnet.co.uk/net2502/net/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://pobox.com/~chr
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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Region 48: http://www.fidonet.org.pl
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5073: http://people.weekend.ru/soa/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4: http://www.altern.org/zone4
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Region 90: http://visitweb.com/fidonet
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Net 903: http://www.playagrande.com/refugio
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/index.htm
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html (Chinese)
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Pages listed above are as submitted to the FidoNews Editor,
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and generally reflect Zone and Regional Web Page sites. If
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no Regional site is submitted, the first Network page from
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that Region is used in its place. Generally, Regional pages
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should list access points to all Networks within the Region.
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FIDONEWS 15-47 Page 19 23 Nov 1998
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TCP/IP accessible node access information should be submitted
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to the FidoNews Editor for inclusion in their Region or Zone.
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
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1:12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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1:13/25 | Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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1:124/7008 | Ben Hamilton |FTP,VMoT,F2I,UUE| 64k | $10/$20mo.
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1:140/12 | Bob Seaborn | FTP | T1 | $5/$20
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1:270/101 | George Peace | FTP | T1 | $30mo.
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1:271/140 | Tom Barstow | F2I | ??? | $2mo.
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1:275/1 | Joshua Ecklund | UUE,F2I | 28.8 | $10/yr.
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1:280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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1:2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
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1:2424/10 | Alec Grynspan | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $1mo.
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1:2424/3121| Earl Clark | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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1:2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo.
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1:2624/306 | D. Calafrancesco | VFOS | 33.6 | $15yr.
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1:345/0 | Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
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1:346/250 | Aran Spence | FTP,UUE | T1 | $10mo.
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1:342/1022 | Steve Steffler | UUE,F2I | 33.6 | n/c
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1:3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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1:396/1 | John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $15mo.
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2:2411/413 | Dennis Dittrich | UUE | 64k | n/c
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2:33/505 | Mario Mure | VMoT,UUE | 64k | n/c
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2:335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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2:469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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2:2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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2:2490/5170| Lenny Murphy | F2I | ??? | n/c
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5:7104/2 | Henk Wolsink | FTP | 28.8 | n/c
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--
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+ VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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+ F2I = Fido2Int (W95)
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+ UUE = uuencode<->email packet transfers
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compiled by C. Ingersoll, 1:2623/71, (609)814-1978, fbn@dandy.net
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Posted on the 1st of every month in FN_SYSOP, R13SYSOP and Fidonews.
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! Origin: * Fly By Night * (609)814-1978 *(1:2623/71)
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more addresses:
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INTERNATIONAL AMATEUR ELECTRONIC MAIL system. It is a compilation
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OBTAINING COPIES: The most recent issue of FidoNews in electronic
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form may be obtained from the FidoNews Editor via manual download or
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file-request, or from various sites in the FidoNet and Internet.
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PRINTED COPIES may be obtained by sending SASE to the above postal
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address. File-request FIDONEWS for the current Issue. File-request
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FNEWS for the current month in one archive. Or file-request specific
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where mmm = three letter month [JAN - DEC] and y = last digit of the
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current year [8], i.e., FNWSJAN8.ZIP for all the Issues from Jan 98.
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Annual volumes are available as FNEWSn.ZIP where n = the Volume number
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1 - 15 for 1984 - 1998, respectively. Annual Volume archives range in
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INTERNET USERS: FidoNews is available via:
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http://www.fidonews.org
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http://www.fidonet.org/fidonews.htm
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ftp://ftp.fidonet.org/pub/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.irvbbs.com/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/Fidonet/Fidonews
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And in non-English formats via:
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http://www.hvc.ee/pats/fidonews (Estonian)
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http://www.fidonet.pp.se/sfnews (Swedish)
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You may obtain an email subscription to FidoNews by sending email to:
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jbarchuk@worldnet.att.net
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with a Subject line of: subscribe fnews-edist
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email distribution use a Subject line of: unsubscribe fnews-edist
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You may retrieve current and previous Issues of FidoNews via FTPMail
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by sending email to:
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ftpmail@fidonews.org
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with a Subject line of: help
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and FTPMail will immediately send a reply containing details and
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instructions. When you actually make a file request, FTPMail will
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respond in three stages. You find a link for this process on
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www.fidonews.org.
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You can read the current FidoNews Issue in HTML format at:
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http://www.fidonews.org
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STAR SOURCE for ALL Past Issues via FTP and file-request -
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Available for FReq from 1:396/1 or by anonymous FTP from:
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Each yearly archive also contains a listing of the Table-of-Contents
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The current week's FidoNews and the FidoNews public-key are now also
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available almost immediately after publication on the FidoNews Editor
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homepage on the World Wide Web at:
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http://209.77.228.66/fidonews.html
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There are also links there to jim barchuk's HTML FidoNews source and
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to John Souvestre's FTP site for the archives. There is also an
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email link for sending in an article as message text. Drop on over.
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SUBMISSIONS: You are encouraged to submit articles for publication in
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FidoNews. Article submission requirements are contained in the file
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from 5:5/23 [5:7104/2] as file "ARTSPEC.DOC". ALL Zone Coordinators
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also have copies of ARTSPEC.DOC. Please read it.
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA 94141,
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"Disagreement is actually necessary,
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or we'd all have to get in fights
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or something to amuse ourselves
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