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F I D O N E W S Volume 16, Number 46 15 Nov 1999
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
| _ | 1-717-732-6820 1:270/720 |
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| _`@/_ \ _ | |
| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
| | (*) | \ )) | DougM@paonline.com |
| |__U__| / \// | |
| _//|| _\ / | |
| (_/(_|(____/ | |
| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
| | -- JOSEPH PULITZER |
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Table of Contents
1. HEADLINES ................................................ 1
Big Edition .............................................. 1
2. EDITORIAL ................................................ 2
Cow in Berlin ............................................ 2
3. GUEST EDITORIAL .......................................... 3
News from the Black Helicopter ........................... 3
4. ARTICLES ................................................. 6
Mother Of All Elections .................................. 6
HMS PeenaFour ............................................ 11
Spooky Anagrams .......................................... 12
ITU-T Standards/Recommendations .......................... 13
NAB Echo Changes [Sept-Oct] .............................. 19
Z1B Echo Changes [Sept-Oct] .............................. 20
5. COLUMNS .................................................. 22
Fidonet-related sites .................................... 22
Ol'WDB: Hug-O-War ........................................ 25
6. NET HUMOR ................................................ 27
The Grand Emir Is Thirsty ................................ 27
Poetry Contest ........................................... 27
7. FIDONEWS INFORMATION ..................................... 29
Masthead ................................................. 29
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 1 15 Nov 1999
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HEADLINES
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Big Edition
Many thanks to all the contributors for this edition of Fidonews.
To tell the truth, I'm overwhelmed: it appears that the members of
Fidonet are starting to assert their ownership of their weekly
newsletter, a process I can only encourage.
I'm not exactly sure why this particular edition is just about
double the size of a regular edition. I'd like to think that I
begged enough people for contributions that I achieved some kind of
critical mass. But, to be honest, I don't think it had that much to
do with my personal efforts.
My theory is that it's had more to do with the performance of the
small, but growing, Fidonews staff. Though there are only a few
names listed in the masthead, these individuals have polished their
sections into immaculate form. I think readers noticed the
difference in the quality of Fidonews, and that fact is responsible
for the surge of interest this week.
Of course, everyone might have found themselves with free time this
week...
Echo Posting
Those of you who carry the FIDONEWS echo are invited to look at this
week's posting of the newsletter with a critical eye. I've revised
the batch files here which split the newsletter and autopost it.
Now the split is every five pages with the break at the printer page
break rather than by line count. The form feed characters have been
stripped to prevent interaction with some BBS readers. Hopefully,
the appearance and ease of online viewing is improved. I'd like
your feedback and suggestions on this, however.
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FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 2 15 Nov 1999
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EDITORIAL
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Cow in Berlin before... ...and after 9-Nov-1989
It would seem that the Fall of the Wall should be celebrated by more
than the ASCII cows on this, the tenth anniversary of the event.
Yet it's largely gone unnoticed, getting only brief mention on talk
radio and little or no attention by the press.
It was probably the most unexpected event of my life. The Wall in
Berlin had stood ever since I could remember, and I never imagined
that it would someday come down. Though the nuclear danger was
stressed in talk about monolithic Communism when I was younger, the
more powerful symbol of human oppression was the Wall. Destroying
the world fifty times over was, possibly, too terrible to be
believable... but a place where people were brutally shot down time
after time brought home the value of freedom.
Perhaps the lack of celebration today is because the rest of the
world was wiser than I, and realized that all oppression would
ultimately fail. But I didn't know that nor even have hopes of
it... until the Wall came down.
Even Fido politics pales in comparison...
Doug Myers
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FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 3 15 Nov 1999
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GUEST EDITORIAL
=================================================================
News from the Black Helicopter
Ruth Argust <ruth@doorgames.org>
Although I wrote it, I could not have done
without the help of many in the S-b echo with
a very special thanks to Steve Asher of Zone
3 for his invaluable co-conspirator input :)
Let's clear up a misconception here. I am fully convinced that Thom
LaCosta is a real person. There are several reasons behind this
which I am not going to publicly disclose at this time.
Yes, the BBS list said that real names must be used but that is not
always the case as we know.
It is my opinion that Tom Knowles is the alias or handle that
LaCosta uses and has used for several years. This is probably why
some searches for the name Tom Knowles turned up empty. However,
even =if= Tom Knowles is a co-sysop, his grabbing the echoes, in my
opinion, is proof that the ELIST has been compromised by the ELIST
keeper since the co-sysop will have more access than the average
user of the system. Additionally, there has never been any reports
previously of a co-ELIST keeper and if Tom Knowles is the co-sysop,
that is precisely what we have. But see more on that below.
However, I strongly doubt that Tom Knowles exists other than as an
alias for LaCosta.
Have you all noticed how conveniently Tom Knowles has been elevated
from a simple user on LaCosta's system (with no knowledge on how to
operate the system to even quote a message by his OWN admission) to
having had co-sysop status for the last several years? This happened
ONLY after the information contained in the USBBS List was made
public. LaCosta had AMPLE time in advance to say that Knowles was a
co-sysop on the system and never did so. In fact, if you all recall,
the first post made by Knowles anywhere was in the Moderator echo
and it was not even from LaCosta's BBS. Additionally, LaCosta said
something very different indeed (below).
This all shows that LaCosta has been hiding something and possibly
continues to do so.
Now, let's do a bit of echo digging on the subject of Tom Knowles
which is from Thom LaCosta's own post which clearly states that Tom
was never a user of the BBS until recently:
============================================
Area : MODERATOR
Date : Sun Aug 22, 14:10
>From : Thom LaCosta 1:1/21
To : Bob Kohl
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 4 15 Nov 1999
Subj : Echolist reply
--------------------------------------------
@MSGID: 1:1/21.0 7c03e2a0
@PID: timEd 1.10+
@TID: GE 1.11+
@CHRS: IBMPC 2
Bob Kohl wrote in a message to Thom LaCosta:
BK> You know Thom, I do find it interesting that you've got someone
BK> working off your board to grab the expired echoes... right after
BK> you purge them. ;)
Well, it would seem that the person first logged into a system that
wasn't mine...I think if you look at the posts, you'll see that he
logged on from another system in net261...it's the one that belongs
to the NEC and is also available via telnet.
All of the update messages from the user were submitted from an
internet address....not a Fido address....and all were a good period
of time before he ever became a user of this board.
So, until someone who uses my board actually submits an update
message from the board to the echolist, I'd say, like so many of
your posts, you're all wet.
Thom LaCosta
hon@baltimoremd.com
http://www.baltimoremd.com/
-!-
! Origin: Home of The Other Robot (1:1/21)
============================================
All of this "a good period of time before he ever became a user of
this board", but apparently a good deal of time after he became the
sysop of the same board... five years later, in fact. :) Remember
that the name Tom Knowles appeared 3/1/94 in the US BBSLists.
And don't miss this part:
"So, until someone who uses my board actually submits an update
message from the board to the echolist, I'd say, like so many of
your posts, you're all wet."
Isn't that what supposedly happened when the BBS had crashed and Tom
Knowles was the =only= person who was able to update and grab three
echoes from the board to the echolist just at the precise time they
were burned? According to Carol Shenkenberger he was able to do this
because he had logged onto the BBS to update expiring listings. Does
this mean that in this case, Bob Kohl is NOT all wet?
But I don't believe that LaCosta is the only one trying to hide
something. I am of the opinion that SOME of the ranking members of
FidoNet are aware of the alias and were fully aware of "the plan"
that was used. I think further that LaCosta is calling on his
"buddies" to assist him =try= to prove his credibility and get
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 5 15 Nov 1999
himself out of the hole he has dug himself into. I think you will
see this in action so be advised.
I have seen an admission by someone who has known LaCosta for many
years to the point of face to face contact and he stated that he had
never heard of a Tom Knowles. This person has run a BBS in the same
general area for many years.
What we have here is certainly overwhelming cause for concern. We
have a very suspect ELIST where underhanded tactics appear to have
been used and then more lies upon more lies to try to cover up the
situation. This should be of deep concern to all of you and I am
hoping that we can indeed have some persons step forward to set up a
new ELIST. Many of us will support a new forthright and honest
system.
>From the Secret Squadron Brigade of the Black Helicopter Patrol
Guarding all FidoNet Zones
=============================================
Ruth
--
Ruth Argust
DDS - DoorWare Distribution System
http://www.doorgames.org/
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FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 6 15 Nov 1999
=================================================================
ARTICLES
=================================================================
The Mother Of All Elections
Steve Fredette, 1:163/551
Well, the annual Region 12 election/flamefest is over, and what a
hoot! I haven't had this much fun since the Maylaysian Node Policy
Complaint.
It started on Sep 16th with the non-election call by the
incomp^H^H^Humbent RC, Mike O'Connor. He appointed his brother Shawn
as returning officer, but neglected to mention this to the region.
The first message we saw from Shawn was a test message, followed by
the election rules and an inaccurate timetable.
Andrew Dominas and Darrell Salter were nominated, along with
Creepin' Moses. Shawn rejected Creepin's nomination (correcly),
because his system was non-CM, and the election guidelines called
for only CM systems to be elligible. He later decided to ignore the
guidelines and allow Creepin' to run, provided that he switched his
system to CM if he won. (???) By this time, Creepin' was at the
cottage, and didn't even know he was in the election.
I nominated myself via crash netmail just before the deadline.
Shawn didn't seem to be the most competent RO we've had, and I
wanted to see if he could deal with a last-minute nomination as
advertised in the guidelines.
The first round of voting was fraught with mistakes and other
difficulties. On the first day of voting, after campaigning was
over, Shawn accidentally reposted a previous message announcing that
"We will be entering campaign phase tomorrow." An innocent enough
mistake, but Shawn refused to believe it. He first claimed that it
was a dupe. (It wasn't -- the second message had a different
subject, date and MSGID). Then when the dupe theory didn't hold up,
he descended into the twilight zone and decided that there must be a
forger in our midst. A rather clever forger indeed, who was able to
remove the original message from Shawn's own system.
Several flamewars later, Brian Hillis' routed netmail vote arrived
on Shawn's system. The message had Brian's name, but *Shawn's*
address as the originating system. Well. Mike and Shawn exploded,
accusing Brian of forging the message to trick Shawn into accepting
an 'invalid' vote. A little sleuthery by Lesley-Dee Dylan tracked
down the problem and confirmed that the message left Brian's system
with the correct address, but was grunged along the way. Neither
Mike nor Shawn ever did apologise to Brian about that one.
After several more of Shawn's screwups (Missing passwords, mistyped
node numbers, problems accepting crash netmail), we finally arrived
at the end of the first round of voting. The results:
Andrew Dominas 7
Darrell Salter 8
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 7 15 Nov 1999
Steve Fredette 8
Creepin' Moses 0
Oh great, a runoff election. According to our election guidelines,
a candidate must receive over 50% of the vote to be declared a
winner. If not, the candidates with the least votes are dropped from
the list and we have a runoff. But wait! Shawn miscounted Gerry
Calhoun's vote. It appears that one of my votes should have gone to
Darrell. So the result is now:
Andrew Dominas 7
Darrell Salter 9
Steve Fredette 7
Creepin' Moses 0
How bloody hard can it be to count to 23? I sent the following
message:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Steve Fredette Area: REG12 - (620)
To: Shawn O'Connor 16 Oct 99 16:54:52
Subject: Counting
I know it's cold there, but shouldn't you take off your mittens
for the duration of the election? Or you could wear gloves.
They're almost as warm as mittens, and they won't interfere with
your counting.
...Steve
--- timEd 1.10
* Origin: Acoustic Plains BBS. Ottawa, ON. 613-742-7612 (1:163/55
-------------------------------------------------------------------
And poor Shawn can't figure out what to do next. According to the
election guidelines, he should drop Creepin' from the list and hold
a runoff with the other three candidates. "But nothing will have
changed," he thinks, and takes it upon himself to 'flip a coin' to
remove one of the second place candidates. Coincidentally, the same
one who just insulted him:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Shawn O'Connor Area: REG12 - (667)
To: All 17 Oct 99 08:39:22
Subject: Election Runoff
Well,
You all seem more interested in, a) tossing out insults, b)
suggesting hand apparel. c) just balking in general, instead of
making constructive suggestions.
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 8 15 Nov 1999
I will use what the RC has suggested. I will vote to break the tie
between Andrew Dominas and Steve Fredette. I really have no interest
in who gets elected, so I will flip a coin.
Heads : Dominas
Tales : Fredette
It's Heads.
The runoff will now commence between Andrew Dominas and Darrell
Salter. All votes stand as they were previously cast for the two
candidates in the runoff. (unless you submit a change during the
runoff)
If you wish to change your vote you must use the same password as
previously submitted.
One again the candidates are:
Andrew Dominas
Darrell Salter
** Modified time frame **
Votes must arrive by Sunday October 24 Noon (12:00)
Note: for the idiots out there; Votes are submitted by selecting a
candidate then selecting a password. Placing both of these in a
message (Netmail or here in REG12) addressed to me (Shawn O'Connor).
Candidate: <Name you selected>
Password : <Password you selected>
Shawn
--- Maximus/2 3.01
* Origin: SSSFFF BBS (The Original!) (1:167/167)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
The region's response to this piece of logic was vocal to say the
least. Even the other candidates were pissed off, and promised to
hold a new election if they actually 'won' this farce. I replied:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Steve Fredette Area: REG12 - (678)
To: Shawn O'Connor 17 Oct 99 21:47:18
Subject: Election Runoff
SO> The runoff will now commence between Andrew Dominas and Darrell
SO> Salter.
That's funny... the deadline for the first round of voting is over,
and I don't recall seeing your number in the list of nodes that
voted. Yet you are now apparently casting a vote.
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 9 15 Nov 1999
The election guidelines are clear on what to do if no candidate
receives 50% of the vote, yet you ignored them. Do you remember
writing the following on Sep 30th?
SO> If you don't follow the guidelines, (disregarding them on a
SO> whim)
SO> what's the point in even having them.
Did you bother to *read* the election guidelines? *Can* you read
them? Who died and left you as the region's penis-potato[*]? There
isn't much point in holding an election in the first place if the
returning officer simply ignores the election guidelines and picks
his own candidates.
And do you suppose it is appropriate for the returning officer to
complain about one of the candidates, then in the same breath, boot
that candidate out of the election? Would the coin have come down
"Tales" if I *hadn't* suggested you lack the arithmetic skills of
the average toddler?
And you're ugly too.
...Steve
[*]Dick-Tater
--- timEd 1.10
* Origin: Acoustic Plains BBS. Ottawa, ON. 613-742-7612 (1:163/55
-------------------------------------------------------------------
After quite a bit more flaming, Mike decided he'd had enough. He
fired his brother and took over the job of returning officer
himself. A few (much quieter) days later, the results of the runoff
are in:
Andrew Dominas 8
Darrell Salter 13
Steve Fredette 10
(Sigh) Ok, nobody has 50% of the vote yet, so we drop Andrew from
the list and hold a second runoff. The result of that one are:
Darrell Salter 14
Steve Fredette 14
[Banging head on table] We *still* don't have a clear majority, and
need to hold a *third* runoff election. By this point I'm getting
sick of the whole thing. I figure Darrell can do just as well a job
as I can, and I'm half considering changing my vote so that he'll
win and we'll be done with it for another year. During the voting
period for the third runoff, I posted the following message:
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 10 15 Nov 1999
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mike O'Connor Jr. Area: REG12 - (883)
To: All 30 Oct 99 11:53:08
Subject: Runoff election
Dad phoned me from the rest home earlier today and asked if I would
take over the job of returning officer for the election. He's
having a hip replaced and can't spare the time right now. Don't
get into a panic now, folks. I don't have nearly as much trouble
with counting as Uncle Shawn did.
The 923rd runoff begins on July 14, 2017 at 9:00pm and ends Friday,
July 21, 2017 at 9:00pm.
Results to date:
Darrell Salter 27
Steve Fredette 27
17 votes invalidated due to sysops having passed away.
--- timEd 1.10
* Origin: Acoustic Plains BBS. Ottawa, ON. 613-742-7612 (1:163/55
-------------------------------------------------------------------
This caused Mike, as another sysop put it, "to fry his last
remaining brain cell." He accused me of 'forgery'. Huh? *Another*
mythical forgery? Better learn the difference between a forgery and
an alias, Mikey. And grab a sense of humour while you're at it. He
waited until two minutes before the election deadline, saw that the
results were still tied, then withdrew his previous vote for me in
order to throw the election in Darrell's favour:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mike O'Connor Area: REG12 - (903)
To: All 3 Nov 99 20:58:32
Subject: My vote
Steve just screwed himself.
I withdraw my vote tallied under the password KillKenny.
It's truly a sad state of affairs when mail forgery is considered
funny.
You are all pathetic.
Bye.
--- Maximus/2 3.01
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 11 15 Nov 1999
* Origin: SSSFFF ][ TSS (1:167/166)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeeeha! A threesome. Fucked twice in the same election by two
different O'Connors. But it all worked out in the end. We have a
new RC, and now that Mike is gone, my pain in the ass has
disappeared. Use a bit more lube next time, Mike.
Mike is probably glad he didn't stick around to read this little
gem, posted after the election by Creepin' Moses:
-------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Mike O'Connor Area: REG12 - (914)
To: Mike O'Connor 4 Nov 99 11:41:38
Subject: My vote
MO> It's truly a sad state of affairs when mail forgery is
MO considered funny.
I fucked your mother.
--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Mo me or blow me. (1:163/151)
-------------------------------------------------------------------
...Steve
-----------------------------------------------------------------
HMS PeenaFour
Steve Fredette, 1:163/551
I wrote this a little while back as part of my campaign in the
region 12 election. I had originally planned to submit it to
fidonews then, but it slipped my mind.
HMS PeenaFour
-------------
(Apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan)
Steve: I am the very model of a fido RC clerical,
I've information technical and social and political,
I've memorized the nodelist flags, I quote P4 (but cynical),
From Intro to Case Histories, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters protocolical,
I understand the data link, both physical and logical,
I know precicely what is meant by Yoohoo, Janus and Wazoo,
My mailer handshakes easily with Opus, Frontdoor, Binkley
too.
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 12 15 Nov 1999
All: His mailer handshakes easily, etc.
Steve: I'm very good at tinkering with interrupts and data bus,
I'll fix the problems y2k that will inflame and pester us,
In short, in matters technical and social and political,
I am the very model of a fido RC clerical.
ALL: In short, in matters technical and social and political,
He is the very model of a fido RC clerical.
Steve: I know our region's history, from Ennis to Cliff Morrison,
I have copies of all the notes from secretive Z1REGCON,
I quote in elegiacs all the crimes of Ricky Johnston, but,
I've had enough of flaming from that nonsensical Hillis nut.
I castigate my fido foes, delight in driving them berserk,
I've spent long hours finding ways of pissing off that Satti
jerk,
But fools no longer bother me, I have the capability,
My filter has no problem nuking all the drivel from RanD.
All: His filter has no problem, etc.
Steve: Then I can write a parody and mail it to fidonews,
And tell you ev'ry detail of things and persons that amuse,
In short, in matters technical and social and political,
I am the very model of a fido RC clerical.
ALL: In short, in matters technical and social and political,
He is the very model of a fido RC clerical.
I spent perhaps 20 hours writing that damn thing, grepping through
dictionaries and policy4 and even the ftsc docs looking for rhyming
words. And when I was done I found that my neural pathways were
completely rearranged, and I could think of nothing else. I
followed up a few days later with:
The major problem with a silly Major General parody,
Is the extent to which the song invades my mental faculty,
Now everything I think about and all my writings amateur,
Are always rhyming couplets in a quick hexadecameter.
...Steve
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Spooky Anagrams
Thanks to Larry James
<larryj@europa.com
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 13 15 Nov 1999
This is really spooky.....
An anagram, as you all know, is a word or phrase made by or
rearranging the letters of another word or phrase. The following are
exceptionally clever.
Someone out there either has way too much time to waste or is deadly
at Scrabble.
Word When you rearrange the letters
----------------------------------------------------------------
Dormitory Dirty Room
Desperation A Rope Ends It
The Morse Code Here come Dots
Slot Machines Cash Lost in 'em
Animosity Is No Amity
Mother-in-law Woman Hitler
Snooze Alarms Alas! No More Z's
Alec Guinness Genuine Class
Semolina Is No Meal
The Public Art Galleries Large Picture Halls, I Bet
A Decimal Point I'm a Dot in Place
The Earthquakes That Queer Shake
Eleven plus two Twelve plus one
Contradiction Accord not in it
Astronomer Moon Starer
Princess Diana End Is A Car Spin
AND HERE IS THE MOST INTRIGUING PART
Year Two Thousand A Year To Shut Down
-----------------------------------------------------------------
ITU-T Standards/Recommendation
V Series
Thanks to David Hallford, 1:208/0
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network - General
V.1 Version 11/1988 Equivalence between binary notation symbols
and the significant conditions of a
two-condition code
V.2 Version 11/1988 Power levels for data transmission over
telephone lines
V.3 None
V.4 Version 11/1988 General structure of signals of
international alphabet No. 5 code for
character oriented data transmission over
public telephone networks
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 14 15 Nov 1999
V.5 None
V.6 None
V.7 Version 11/1988 Definitions of terms concerning data
communication over the telephone network
V.8 Version 2/1998 Procedures for starting sessions of data
transmission over the public switched
telephone network
V.9 None
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network
Interfaces and voiceband modems
V.10 Version 3/1993 Electrical characteristics for unbalanced
double-current interchange circuits
operating at data signalling rates nominally
up to 100 kbit/s
This Recommendation is also included but not
published in X series under alias number
X.26
V.11 Version 10/1996 Electrical characteristics for balanced
double-current interchange circuits
operating at data signalling rates up to 10
Mbit/s
This Recommendation is also included but not
published in X series under alias number
X.27
V.12 Version 8/1995 Electrical characteristics for balanced
double-current interchange circuits for
interfaces with data signalling rates up to
52 Mbit/s
V.13 Version 3/1993 Simulated carrier control
V.14 Version 3/1993 Transmission of start-stop characters over
synchronous bearer channels
V.15 Version 11/1988 Use of acoustic coupling for data
transmission
V.16 Version 11/1988 Medical analogue data transmission modems
V.17 Version 2/1991 A 2-wire modem for facsimile applications
with rates up to 14 400 bit/s
V.18 Version 2/1998 Operational and interworking requirements
for DCEs operating in the text telephone
mode
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 15 15 Nov 1999
V.19 Version 11/1988 Modems for parallel data transmission using
telephone signalling frequencies
V.20 None
V.21 Version 11/1988 300 bits per second duplex modem
standardized for use in the general switched
telephone network
V.22 Version 11/1988 1200 bits per second duplex modem
standardized for use in the general switched
telephone network and on point-to-point
2-wire leased telephone-type circuits
V.22 bis Version 11/1988 2400 bits per second duplex modem using the
frequency division technique standardized
for use on the general switched telephone
network and on point-to-point 2-wire leased
telephone-type circuits
V.23 Version 11/1988 600/1200-baud modem standardized for use in
the general switched telephone network
V.24 Version 10/1996 List of definitions for interchange circuits
between data terminal equipment (DTE) and
data circuit-terminating equipment (DCE)
V.25 Version 10/1996 Automatic answering equipment and general
procedures for automatic calling equipment
on the general switched telephone network
including procedures for disabling of echo
control devices for both manually and
automatically established calls
V.25 bis Version 10/1996 Synchronous and asynchronous automatic
dialling procedures on switched networks
V.26 Version 11/1988 2400 bits per second modem standardized for
use on 4-wire leased telephone-type circuits
V.26 bis Version 11/1988 2400/1200 bits per second modem
standardized for use in the general
switched telephone network
V.26 ter Version 11/1988 2400 bits per second duplex modem using the
echo cancellation technique standardized
for use on the general switched telephone
network and on point-to-point 2-wire leased
telephone-type circuits
V.27 Version 11/1988 4800 bits per second modem with manual
equalizer standardized for use on leased
telephone-type circuits
V.27 bis Version 11/1988 4800/2400 bits per second modem with
automatic equalizer standardized for use on
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 16 15 Nov 1999
leased telephone-type circuits
V.27 ter Version 11/1988 4800/2400 bits per second modem
standardized for use in the general
switched telephone network
V.28 Version 3/1993 Electrical characteristics for unbalanced
double-current interchange circuits
V.29 Version 11/1988 9600 bits per second modem standardized for
use on point-to-point 4-wire leased
telephone-type circuits
V.30 None
V.31 Version 11/1988 Electrical characteristics for
single-current interchange circuits
controlled by contact closure
V.31 bis Version 11/1988 Electrical characteristics for
single-current interchange circuits using
optocouplers
V.32 Version 3/1993 A family of 2-wire, duplex modems operating
at data signalling rates of up to 9600 bit/s
for use on the general switched telephone
network and on leased telephone-type
circuits
V.32 bis Version 2/1991 A duplex modem operating at data signalling
rates of up to 14 400 bit/s for use on the
general switched telephone network and on
leased point-to-point 2-wire telephone-type
circuits
V.33 Version 11/1988 14 400 bits per second modem standardized
for use on point-to-point 4-wire leased
telephone-type circuits
V.34 Version 2/1998 A modem operating at data signalling rates
of up to 33 600 bit/s for use on the general
switched telephone network and on leased
point-to-point 2-wire telephone-type
circuits
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network
Wideband modems
V.36 Version 11/1988 Modems for synchronous data transmission
using 60-108 kHz group band circuits
V.37 Version 11/1988 Synchronous data transmission at a data
signalling rate higher than 72 kbit/s using
60-108 kHz group band circuits
V.38 Version 10/1996 A 48/56/64 kbit/s data circuit-terminating
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 17 15 Nov 1999
equipment standardized for use on digital
point-to-point leased circuits
V.39 None
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network
Error control
V.41 Version 11/1988 Code-independent error-control system
V.42 Version 10/1996 Error-correcting procedures for DCEs using
asynchronous-to-synchronous conversion
V.42 bis Version 1/1990 Data compression procedures for data
circuit- terminating equipment (DCE) using
error correction procedures
V.43 Version 2/1998 Data flow control
V.44 None
thru
V.49
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network
Transmission quality and maintenance
V.50 Version 11/1988 Standard limits for transmission quality of
data transmission
V.51 None See M.729
V.52 None
V.53 Version 11/1988 Limits for the maintenance of telephone-type
circuits used for data transmission
V.54 Version 11/1988 Loop test devices for modems
V.55 None See O.71
V.56 Version 11/1988 Comparative tests of modems for use over
telephone-type circuits
V.56 bis Version 8/1995 Network transmission model for evaluating
modem performance over 2-wire voice grade
connections
V.56 ter Version 8/1996 Test procedure for evaluation of 2-wire 4
kHz voiceband duplex modems
This Recommendation includes 2 diskettes
containing the data files used for the
throughput tests
V.57 None
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 18 15 Nov 1999
V.58 Version 9/1994 Management information model for V-Series
DCEs
V.59 None
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network
Simultaneous transmission of data and other signals
V.60 None
V.61 Version 8/1996 A simultaneous voice plus data modem,
operating at a voice plus data signalling
rate of 4800 bit/s, with optional automatic
switching to data-only signalling rates of
up to 14400 bit/s, for use on the General
Switched Telephone Network and on leased
point-to- point 2-wire telephone type
circuits
V.62 None
thru
V.69
V.70 Version 8/1996 Procedures for the simultaneous transmission
of data and digitally encoded voice signals
over the GSTN, or over a 2-wire leased
point-to-point telephone type circuits
V.71 None
thru
V.74
V.75 Rec Version 8/1996 DSVD terminal control procedures Session
establishment using V.75/H.245 procedures
V.76 Rec Version 8/1996 Generic multiplexer using V.42 LAPM-based
procedures
V.77 None
thru
V.79
V.80 Version 8/1996 In-band DCE control and synchronous data
modes for asynchronous DTE
V.81 None
Thru
V.89
V.90 Version 9/1998 A digital modem and analogue modem pair for
use on the Public Switched Telephone Network
(PSTN) at data signalling rates of up to
56000 bit/s downstream and up to 33 600
bit/s upstream
V.91 None
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 19 15 Nov 1999
thru
V100
Series V - Data communication over the telephone network
Control procedures
V.250 Version 2/1998 Serial asynchronous automatic dialling and
control Published as V.25 ter (07/97),
renumbered in february 98 without being
republished
V.251 Version 2/1998 Procedure for DTE-controlled call
negotiation Published as Annex A to V.25 ter
(07/97), renumbered in february 98 without
being republished
V.252 Version 2/1998 Procedure for control of V.70 and H.324
terminals by a DTE
Series M - TMN and network maintenance: international
transmission systems, telephone circuits, telegraphy, facsimile
and leased circuits International telephone circuits
M.729 Version 11/1988 Organization of the maintenance of
(V.51) international public switched telephone
circuits used for data transmission This
Recommendation is also included but not
published in V series under alias number
V.51
Series O - Specifications of measuring equipment
Equipment for the measurement of analogue parameters
O.71 Version 11/1988 Impulsive noise measuring equipment for
(V.55) telephone-type circuits This Recommendation
is also included but not published in V
series under alias number V.55 and in H
series under alias number H.13
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North American Backbone Echo Changes [Sep-Oct]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Summary of NAB echo changes during Sep & Oct.
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
diff backbone.na 05-Sep-99 backbone.na 07-Nov-88 [edited].
Echotag name change
-------------------
Note: UNUSUAL_PETS (added in Jul-Aug) is the new echotag for
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 20 15 Nov 1999
CHAMELEON (shown removed below)
Added to the NAB list of echos
------------------------------
> BIKE-N-RIDER Motorcycle Riders, Bike Safety and Riding
> ECHORESCUE Echo Tag Rescue Echo
> ELYSIUM Elysium Software
> ITALIANO Italians do it better
> LINUX-USER Linux user
> OFFICE_SUPPORT Microsoft Office Discussion and Support
> PORTUGUES Porugues
> QUEEN_FOR_A_DAY Lets you play queen for the day
> SHAKESPEARE Discussion about William Shakespeare
> THINKPRO Think Productions Software Group
> THOM-TOM Is Thom also Tom Discussion Conference!
Removed from the NAB list of echos
----------------------------------
< 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
< CFS Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
< CHAMELEON EXOTIC ANIMAL OWNERSHIP AND DISCUSSION
< CIVIL_WAR Civil War History Echo
< COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
< IFTP_SUPPORT iFTP Support
< MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo!
< SCUBA Scuba Diving
< SUPER-BASTARD Super Bastards Echo
< TWIT Twit's Echo!
< Z1-ELECTION Alternate Z1C Election discussion area
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o There are 751 echos in backbone.na [07-Nov-99] (unchanged)
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Z1 Backbone Echo Changes [Sep-Oct]
by Lisa Gronke, 1:105/9
lisa@psg.com
Summary of Z1B echo changes during Sep & Oct.
Brought to you courtesy of (unix) diff.
diff backbone.z1b 05-Sep-99 backbone.z1b 07-Sep-99 [edited].
Echotag name change
-------------------
> UNUSUAL_PETS Unusual Pets Echo! [new echotag name]
< CHAMELEON EXOTIC ANIMAL OWNERSHIP [old echotag name]
Added to the Z1B list of echos
------------------------------
> EDGE_ONLINE End Times - Mystery Babylon and the Beast 666
> HARDWARE Computer Hardware & Peripherals
> ITALIANO Italians do it better
> LINUX-USER Linux user
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 21 15 Nov 1999
> MOTOR_SPORTS_RESULTS Various Motor Sports Results!
> OFFICE_SUPPORT Microsoft Office Discussion and Support
> PORTUGUES Portuguese Language Chat Echo
> QUEEN_FOR_A_DAY Lets you play queen for the day
> THOM-TOM Is Thom also Tom Discussion Conference!
> TRANSCAN TransCanadian Soapbox echo
Removed from the Z1B list of echos
----------------------------------
< 4MODSONLY For Moderator's ONLY Echo!
< BLINDTLK Blindness-related topics and discussions
< C&C Command & Conquer echo
< CFS Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
< CIVIL_WAR Civil War History Echo
< COMIC_RELIEF G-rated On-line Stand-up Comedy Shtick
< DND D&D and Fantasy Role-Playing conference.
< F_I_D_O_E_R_R_O_R_S fIDO ERRORS
< FIDOGEN Fidonet Genealogy Sysop Discussions Echo
< GAF.CHAT German-American Friendship Networks Chat Echo
< HOMESCHL Homeschooling support echo
< IFTP_SUPPORT iFTP Support
< INK Desktop Publishing & Word Processing Support
< INTERGREEK Int'l Greek Conference (English language)
< LAW_&_ORDER Law Enforcement Issues
< MACSYSOP Macintosh Sysop's Conference
< MALUM_PROHIBITUM Malum prohibitum discussions
< MEDIEVAL Medieval studies, re-creation, arts, etc.
< MICHIGAN GENERAL CHAT FOR MICHIGAN
< MILLENNIUM Windows MILLENNIUM software Echo!
< MS_WORD Microsoft Word Users Support Conference
< NCSSA Nat'l Coalition of Sysops and Systems Admins
< NEWAGE_THOUGHT New Age Thought and Discussion
< NORTH_CAROLINA GENERAL CHAT FOR NORTH CAROLINA
< OPENDOORS OpenDoors Door Programming Toolkit Discussion
< PROWRITE Professional Writers' Conference
< PRO_LIFE Pro-Life Question and Answer Forum
< QUAKE Discussion of id Software's Quake
< ROOTS_MUSIC Roots of Music Discussion
< RTTY Amateur & Commercial Radio-Teletype Technology
< SCUBA Scuba Diving
< SPINAL_INJURY Spinal Cord Injury Topics
< SPIRITUAL Spirituality and World Peace
< STAMPS Stamp collecting discussion
< SUPER-BASTARD Super Bastards Echo
< TWIT Twit's Echo!
< VFIDO VADV/VBBS & VFIDO Technical Support
< ZCC_SUNSHINE Crosspost msgs from ZCC-closed-conference
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o There are 630 echos in backbone.z1b [07-Oct-99] (down 28)
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(Chinese)
Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
address. The email is translated as follows
firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
| email address or
Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed | Basic Rate
-----------+-------------------+----------------+-------+------------
Zone 1 | | | |
10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | T1? | $??/$10
12/12 | Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP | aDSL | n/c
105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
105/72 @ Larry James | FTP | aDSL | $5/$15 mo.
106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL | n/c
140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP | T3 | $5/$16
167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
211/417 @ Korombos | BinkD,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
270/101 @ George Peace | FTP | 6mbps | $20mo.
271/140 | Tom Barstow | UUE | T1 | n/c
280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 | Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
345/0 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP | T1 | n/c
396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1 | $10/mo
396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
2401/305 | Peter Rocca | FTP,UUE | T1 | unkn
2424/101 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1 | n/c
2604/104 | Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+ | n/c
2624/306 @ D. Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP | 128K+ | n/c
3651/9 | Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
3803/1 @ Ben Ritchey | UUE | 56k | n/c
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Zone 2 |
20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
284/800 | Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
292/626 | Filip Ruymen | Binkp, UUE | 128K+ | n/c
292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | ??? | n/c
332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
----------------------------------------------
Fidonet oriented news servers
news.osirusoft.com (US west coast)
agnese.fidoitalia.net (Italy)
Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
irc.isonline.com
irc.killaz-r-us.com
irc.korombos.org
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Medication for Fight-O-net's History of WAR
compiled by Ol'WDB
Hugs
No moving parts, no batteries.
No monthly payments and no fees;
Inflation proof, nontaxable,
In fact, it's quite relaxable;
It can't be stolen, won't pollute,
One size fits all, do not dilute.
It uses little energy,
But yields results enormously.
Relieves your tension and your stress,
Invigorate your happiness;
Combats depression, makes you beam,
And elevates your self esteem!
Your circulation it corrects!
Without unpleasant side effects
It is, I think, the perfect drug:
May I prescribe, my friend,... the hug!
(and, of course, fully returnable!) I like that part best...
***ALSO***
HAVE YOU HUGGED A FRIEND TODAY?
( ^ )_( ^ ) ( ^ )_( ^)
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/ o o) (o o \
__/ ( | | ) \___
(_ / * * \_)
/ \/ | \
| | | | |
| | | \__/ |
\__/ | /
| | /
/ \ /
<____,---,___) (____/ (____
Hugged & Hugger
I will not play Tug O' War
I'd rather play Hug O' War...
Where everyone hugs,
no one feathers and tars,
also no disparaging tugs.
Instead of the royal finger,
or the nasty belittling note,
addressed to a foe in anger
send a HUG and then emote.
Where everyone is polite,
and everyone grins...
everyone cuddles tight,
and everyone wins.
Ol'wdb
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The Grand Emir Is Thirsty
Thanks to Roy Reed
rcreedv@juno.com
An Arab diplomat visiting the US for the first time was being wined
and dined by the State Department. The Grand Emir was unused to the
salt in American foods (french fries, cheeses, salami, anchovies
etc.) and was constantly sending his manservant Abdul to fetch him a
glass of water.
Time and again, Abdul would scamper off and return with a glass of
water, but then came the time when he returned empty-handed.
"Abdul, you son of an ugly camel, where is my water?" demanded the
Grand Emir.
"A thousand pardons, O Illustrious One," stammered the wretched
Abdul, "white man sit on well."
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Subject: Poetry contest...
Thanks to Ol'WDB
The finals of the National Poetry Contest last year came down to two
finalists. One was a San Francisco State University graduate from an
upper crust family; well-bread, well-connected, and all that goes
with it.
The other finalist was a redneck from Texas A&M. A self-proclaimed
die-hard Aggie. Go figure.
The rules of the contest required each finalist to compose a
four-line poem in one minute or less, and the poem had to contain
the word "Timbuktu".
The San Francisco State graduate went first. About thirty seconds
after the clock started he jumped up and recited the following poem:
"Slowly across the desert sand
Trekked the dusty caravan.
Men on camels, two by two
Destination-Timbuktu."
The audience went wild!!! How, they wondered could the redneck top
that?!
The clock started again and the redneck sat in silent thought.
Finally, in the last few seconds, he jumped and recited:
"Tim and me, a-huntin' went.
Met three whores in a pop-up tent.
FIDONEWS 16-46 Page 28 15 Nov 1999
They was three, we was two,
So I bucked one and Timbuktu."
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