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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 17 24 Apr 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Is BBSing Dead? .......................................... 1
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2. LETTERS TO THE EDITOR .................................... 2
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Editorial Response - At What Age? ........................ 2
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Something Special about Fido ............................. 3
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Immaturity & Sysops ...................................... 3
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3. ARTICLES ................................................. 5
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ECHO TALK - Changes in Israel ............................ 5
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ZC/2 elections starting... NOW! .......................... 5
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4. COLUMNS .................................................. 10
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Ol'WDB: Giving the Finger ................................ 10
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This Weeks Web Page ...................................... 10
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5. NET HUMOR ................................................ 13
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Signs That You've Already Grown Up ....................... 13
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6. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 14
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Famous Cows .............................................. 14
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7. NOTICES .................................................. 15
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Speaking From the Heart .................................. 15
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8. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 16
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 16
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9. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 21
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Masthead ................................................. 21
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EDITORIAL
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Is BBSing Dead?
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Doug Myers
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Back in the late 1980's, I got onto a BBS for the first time with
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all the power of a 300 baud modem. I was lured by the promise of
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free software in abundance - but it was the online community that
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made this venture a lifelong hobby rather than a passing fad. I
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guess I'd always enjoyed interacting with people, but the
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interaction was never so intense as when corrosponding with people
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on bulletin boards.
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Does the internet community offer this same intensity of
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interaction? I really don't know as I've never fully participated
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in the internet. Oh, I exchange a lot of email, but most of it is
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with folks I've met through bbsing. Perhaps the more appropriate
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question is: Is the internet a substitute for BBSing? Again, I'm
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only asking as I don't truly know the answer... I'm an old BBSer
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from way back.
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A letter I received this week (the author declined publication)
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pronounced BBSing dead, as well as Fidonet. Further, he pronounced
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FTP and telenet to be dead ends, that folks would only point and
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click on the Web in the future.
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The author made some good points - it's certainly not a state secret
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that folks have embraced the internet and that the local bbs just
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isn't visited any more. And I've long agreed that a Fidonet which
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depends on BBSing as it was in the past won't survive.
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However, Fidonet still carries the sense of community which BBSing
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held when I first got into it. Further, I've not heard of folks on
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the internet telling me about that - so I'm presuming it doesn't
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exist or hasn't formed yet.
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Now here's a sense of direction for the future: if Fidonet can
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successfully maintain this sense of community, possibly even
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carrying it to the internet, then Fido will never die. However,
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Fido right now is composed of a lot of us who remember the spirit of
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BBSing... and there won't be many of us left as time goes by with
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the BBS a thing of the past. Just as we needed BBS users in the
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past to make our community come alive, so we'll need the "point and
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clickers" in the future. Are we doing anything to embrace them?
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LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
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Editorial Response - At What Age?
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Echomail From the Fidonews Conference
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Nahum Wengrov, 2:402/633
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Responding to what FidoNews Robot wrote to All,
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about FidoNews 17:16 [01/07]: Editorial, on 17 Apr 00, 00:16
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FR> So at what age is one sufficiently mature to post in a Fidonet
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FR> echo?
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I don't know about Fidonet, but we have here in Israel 2 local
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Fido-style networks in Hebrew. The average age of most active
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participants is 16. The youngest participants to write regularly
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were 12 when they joined.
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English is a second language here, and I don't think there are many
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teenagers here fluent enough in English to enjoy reading, let alone
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writing, in an international English network. Perhaps that's the
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reason why most of Ultinet and C-net members don't bother to write
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in Fidonet.
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FR> Nineteen isn't such a bad age. Though the age seems far away
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FR> to me at the age of 53, I seem to recall that I had most of my
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FR> language skills developed by that age and had a good general
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FR> idea of how people interacted. While I've got to admit that
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FR> subsequent life experience has modified my approach to things,
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FR> I believe that at the age of 19 I was sufficiently mature to
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FR> enter conversations as an adult. But then, I wasn't online
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FR> then... I was nineteen in the sixties and hardly anyone was
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FR> online then! Especially, I wasn't interacting in a hobby which
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FR> has somewhat passed its prime and whose participants tend to
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FR> middle age rather than youth.
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I was a Yeshiva (Rabbinical College) student at the age of 19, in
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the 70's. I didn't own or have access to a computer yet. I got my
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first computer when I was 25, and only bought a modem a few years
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later. It took me a few years of modeming to discover the
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Fido-style mail networks here.
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By now, BBS's in Israel are mail-only or dead. The majority of
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C-net participants already polls their mail from their 2 Internet
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hubs. The future is in the Internet.
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FR> Imagine... the future of Fido is in the hands of a sysop who
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FR> goes by the handle of Black Death. Kinda scary, eh?
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In a few years he'll probably change his handle :)
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Something Special about Fido
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Email to the Editor
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Bruce Anderson
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For some reason, decided to check out Fidonet presence on the net a
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couple of days ago, and was pleasantly surprised.
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As part of Fidonet for about 8 years, (86-94?), and as the NC of
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Net 342 (Region 17), I cherish the time spent in the Fidonet
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community. Changing priorities resulted in me dropping Fidonet
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activities, but I'm glad to see Fidonet is, in this day and age of
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the Internet, thriving. (Some may question that description, but all
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things considered...)
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Fidonet does have something special. Keep that in mind.
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Bruce Anderson
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(Past NC of Net 342 - Fort McMurray, AB, Canada
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Presently of Gladstone, Queensland, Australia).
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shale@bigpond.com
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Immaturity & Sysops
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Email to the Editor
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Michael Adams
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michaeladams@mail.com
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Immaturity is irrelevant to young age. Here in Florida, there
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used to be a number of young sysops here. Around 1997, a guy
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shut down a system he ran since age 12. Around 1996, I started
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using BBS' and ran one from 7-1996 to 3-1999: Fidonet 1:374/163;
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the Slug BBS. My age at bootup: 15. My age before shutdown:
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17 (18 in May).
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We need the young people. We also need young people who could
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use their cable modems to run Telnettable BBS', as Internet is
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here to stay, and there won't be any 374 net 2 years from now.
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But that's another issue, and one that may be interesting.
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Long live the BBS'!
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Michael Adams
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Former Sysop, The Slug BBS, 1:374/163
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Editor: There's a corrolation between age and immaturity to my
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experience, as I find most young people refreshingly unencumbered by
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excessive maturity. If I want to try something new or innovative, I
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FIDONEWS 17-17 Page 4 24 Apr 2000
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value a bit of immaturity. The "mature" response to innovation is
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that the old way was good enough.
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ARTICLES
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. -- -- -- -- -- ECHO TALK -- -- -- -- -- .
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| Purloined without permission by D Myers |
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Changes in Israel
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Nahum Wengrov
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2:402/633
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Hello All,
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I have been dethroned. The Emperor of region 2:40 decided to
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disband all nets in the region and unite them under his domain. I
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am to become 2:400/633, and lose my NC status about a month after
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having acquired it :)
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I personally agree with this move. In a place such as Israel,
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where most people don't write English unless they are forced to do
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so, dividing Fidonet into nets, with most of them having only one
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hub and a few nodes, simply doesn't make sense. Especially since
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the volume of mail is small enough and the modems are fast enough
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to make the difference in the phone bill really insignificant.
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Also, in the 3rd millenium, almost anyone who has a computer has
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internet access. More and more old-style bbs'es here in Israel are
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closing down. The majority of the participants of C-net, our major
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local Fido-style Hebrew network, are already polling mail
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(echomail, netmail, and file echoes) from the two Internet hubs.
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In another 2 weeks, our national phone company, Bezeq, will allow
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users to access the Internet for a flat rate of $25 per month.
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This will allow more Fidonet hubs (like me) to stay online 24/7,
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allowing their downlinks to poll mail through the Internet. This
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will make the division of the region into separate nets even more
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ridiculous than it is today.
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ZC/2 elections starting... NOW!
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By Jan Vermeulen, RC/28
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The following message was published in the REGCON.EUR (Zone 2) area
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on Fri 21 Apr 2000 - it was also sent to all individual RCs in Z2.
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Colleagues,
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Too long a time has passed since Ward announced the ZC/2 elections
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based on the formation of an elections committee; for a number of
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reasons this did not work as was expected by all concerned -- nobody
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FIDONEWS 17-17 Page 6 24 Apr 2000
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can really be blamed forthis, least of all Ward himself, who, time
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and again, has used his virtual whip in order to get progress where
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none was visible.
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Oh well, finally this message marks the kick off of the ZC/2 elect-
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ions, with me as your Receiving Officer and DavidRance as the
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Verification Officer.
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Mailing addresses are at the end of this message.
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The Schedule:
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Call for candidates 22.04.2000 - 05.05.2000
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Soap boxes published 06.05.2000
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Discussions 06.05.2000 - 31.05.2000
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Regional referenda 31.05.2000 - 13.06.2000
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Votes by RCs 06.06.2000 - 19.06.2000
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Results published 20.06
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[if a second round is needed]
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Regional referenda 20.06.2000 - 27.06.2000
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Votes by RCs 27.06.2000 - 04.07.2000
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Results published 05.07
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Starting dates are considered to commence at 00:00 UTC
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Ending dates are considered to end at 23:59 UTC
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Echomail areas used for the discussions:
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REGCON.EUR and ENET.SYSOP
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Current rules for those areas remain in force.
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Who may be a candidate:
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Any sysop of Zone 2 region 20 thru 54 whose system is not Pvt,
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Hold or Down may run for ZC/2.
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Sysops of non-CM systems are expected to promise that, when
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elected, they will upgrade to CM before taking this most
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important office in our zone.
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Who may vote:
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The Region Coordinators of Zone 2 Regions 20 .. 54.
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Ideally, an RC's vote should reflect the result of a referendum
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they will have held in their Region.
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What the vote should look like:
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By: John F Coordinator 2:nn/0
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To: ZC-vote 2:28/0
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Re: My vote
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<name> ! <password>
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What password to use:
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Each RC will be provided by crashed netmail with a password
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that (s)he must use in order to have his/her vote validated.
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Where candidates can send their application and RCs can send
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their votes:
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The vote may be sent (in descending order of preference and
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degree of security):
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(1) by crash netmail to the Receiving Officer at 2:28/0
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(it may be prudent to force as V32bis session...)
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(2) by fax to 31-75-6401600. (Make sure you use a legible
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typeface at 12 points at least for my scanner and OCR
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software to make a correct conversion).
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(3) by email to j.vermeulen@hot.a2000.nl
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(4) by routed netmail to the Receiving Officer at 2:28/0
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Who may participate in the Regional Referendum:
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The Sysops of all systems that are not Pvt, Hold or Down and
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having a valid telephone number for the Region in question.
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Regardless of the number of systems operated, a Sysop will have
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one vote.
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How the result of the elections will be calculated:
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Each Region has one vote.
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A vote that is not for one of the candidates will be invalid
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and shall not influence the results in any way.
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In the first round, the sucessful candidate must have more
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than 50% of the votes cast and valid.
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If such result is not obtained, a second round will be run
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between a minimum of two candidates; the list of candidates
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is compounded as follows:
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votes for: rerun between:
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cand_1 > cand_2 > cand_3 ... cand_1 and cand_2
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cand_1 = cand_2 > cand_3 ... cand_1 and cand_2
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cand_1 = cand_2 = cand_3 ... cand_1 and cand_2 and cand_3
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cand_1 > cand_2 = cand_3 ... cand_1 and cand_2 and cand_3
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The successful candidate will be who has the most votes.
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In case of a tie after the secound round, lots will be drawn in
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the following way:
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. prior to the start of the second round of voting, the RO will
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have sent a list of four numbers between 0 and 100 to a trusted
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third party (TTP) who is neither RC nor candidate and whose
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name will not be revealed until needed.
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. each candidate surviving the second round will send his/her
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own set of 4 numbers to the RO who will request the VO to
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compare them with the list he will receive from the TTP.
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. the successfull candidate's set of numbers will be closest to
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the sum of the numbers or, if there is still a draw, closest
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to the first of the composing numbers, e.g.
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numbers are 34 67 88 91 sum = 280
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cand_1 has 37 61 94 87 sum = 279
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dev 3 6 6 4
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cand_2 has 31 61 91 98 sum = 281
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dev 3 6 3 7
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Crossposting:
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To ENET.SYSOP and REGCON.EUR
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Please post also to your local sysops areas in preparation of
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the referendum you will run.
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Mailing addresses:
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Jan Vermeulen Fidonet 2:28/0
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Email j.vermeulen@hot.a2000.nl
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Fax 31-75-6401600
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David Rance Fidonet 2:25/0
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"SAYINGS"
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`Worth reading'
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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A Little history lesson for you...History of Giving the Finger:
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Giving the Finger
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Before the Battle of Agincourt in 1415, the French, anticipating
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victory over the English, proposed to cut off the middle finger of
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all captured English soldiers. Without the middle finger it would be
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impossible to draw the renowned English longbow and therefore those
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with no middle finger would be incapable of fighting in the future.
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This famous weapon was made of the native English Yew tree, and the
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act of drawing the longbow was known as "plucking the yew" (or
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"pluck yew"). Much to the bewilderment of the French, the English
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won a major upset and began mocking the French by waving their
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middle fingers at the defeated French, saying, "See, we can still
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pluck yew! PLUCK YEW!"
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Since "pluck yew" is rather difficult to say, the difficult
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consonant cluster at the beginning has gradually changed to a
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labiodental fricative 'F', and thus the words often used in
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conjunction with the one-finger-salute are mistakenly thought to
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have something to do with an intimate encounter.
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It is also because of the pheasant feathers on the arrows used with
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the longbow that the symbolic gesture is known as "giving the bird."
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And yew thought yew knew everything about fingers! 8^)
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This Weeks Web Page
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by Frank Vest
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1:124/6308(.1)
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What: Jazzmasters Strange Facts & Useless Information
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FIDONEWS 17-17 Page 11 24 Apr 2000
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Where: http://members.tripod.com/~Mitchell_J/
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Ok... This isn't exactly a Fidonet page. :) It is the page of a
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friend and Point of mine. Please forgive my wandering off like
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this. :-)
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Here's a cut and paste about the pages:
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I've been collecting these little stories, facts, and bits of
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useless information for quite some time and thought it was time to
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share a few of them with everyone. Feel free to E-mail me if you
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have any suggestions or any strange facts you might think need to be
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posted here as well.
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For those who may be interested, I also have a humor mailing list
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you can subscribe to. Simply send a blank e-mail (or click on the
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graphic below) with the word "Subscribe R" or "Subscribe PG" in the
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subject line and you'll be set!
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---- uncut ---------
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Ok... so why did I put this page in the Fidonews?
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Because it's there?! :)
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Real reason is, "Just a break from the usual".
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I've know Randy (Jazzmaster) since my BBS in Texas was named "The
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Musicians' Forum". He called, left me a message, we met and he
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became a Point off of my BBS. We've been friends since.
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As you might have guessed, Randy is a musician... and a darn site
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better one than I'll ever be! That should explain his page and the
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sense of humor involved better than anything I could write. :) After
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many years "on the road" in music, I'd bet there isn't much Randy
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hasn't seen or heard. <G>
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Enough about that.
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The page
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The page is just what it says... "Strange Facts and Useless
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Information".
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There are links to page after page of this stuff. I will warn you
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that some of the pages are adult type information and you might want
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to be careful if this would offend you. Otherwise, look, click and
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laugh or be amazed at this stuff. :)
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There is a nice midi song that is played on the main page. You might
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or might not know it ("What a Wonderful World") and a guest book as
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well as an ICQ link and information.
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When you visit the page, be sure to sign the guest book and tell him
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you got lost.... er heard about the page in the Fidonews. I'm sure
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I'll hear about that. :-))
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Have fun, read, learn, laugh and pray for me when Randy finds out I
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did this. :)
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I'll get back on the Fidonet stuff next week (I hope). <smile>
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With insane regards,
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Frank
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flv@texoma.net
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Top 25 Signs That You've Already Grown Up
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Thanks to Lynn Gipson
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1. Your potted plants stay alive.
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2. Fooling around in a twin sized bed is absurd.
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3. You keep more food than beer in the fridge.
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4. 6:00 AM is when you get up, not when you go to sleep.
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5. You hear your favorite song on an elevator.
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6. You carry an umbrella. You watch the Weather Channel.
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7. Your friends marry and divorce instead of hookup and
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breakup.
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8. You go from 130 days of vacation time to 7.
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9. Jeans and a sweater no longer qualify as 'dressed up'.
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10. You're the one calling the police because those darn kids
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next door don't know how to turn down the stereo.
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11. Older relatives feel comfortable telling sex jokes around
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you.
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12. You don't know what time Taco Bell closes anymore.
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13. Your car insurance goes down and your car payments go up.
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14. You feed your dog Science Diet instead of McDonald's.
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15. Sleeping on the couch makes your back hurt.
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16. You no longer take naps from noon to 6 p.m.
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17. Dinner and a movie - The whole date instead of the
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beginning of one.
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18. MTV News is no longer your primary source for information.
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19. You go to the drugstore for Ibuprofen and antacids, not
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condoms and pregnancy tests.
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20. A $4.00 bottle of wine is no longer 'pretty good stuff,'
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21. You actually eat breakfast foods at breakfast time.
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22. Grocery lists are longer than macaroni & cheese, diet
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Pepsi & Ho-Ho's.
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23. "I just can't drink the way I used to" replaces "I'm never
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going to drink that much again."
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24. Over 90% of the time you spend in front of a computer is
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for real work.
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25. You don't drink at home to save money before going to a
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bar.
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Famous Cows
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(__) (__)
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(oo) ------------------------- (oo)
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/-------\/ - | Don't have a Bart, man! | /-------\/
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/ | || ------------------------- / | ||
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* ||----|| * (.)(.)||
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^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
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The Simpsons' cow Dolly Parton's
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Cow
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Speaking From the Heart
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Doug Myers
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Okay, I'm not really speaking from the heart, I'm speaking about it.
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At the time you read this, I will probably be in the local hospital.
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The good news is that it won't be for the open heart surgery I
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mentioned a while back. The various doctors, in conference, decided
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that a procedure called baloon angioplasty could accomplish the same
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healing. The difference is that the angioplasty only requires an
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overnight stay in the hospital and a few days off work (instead of
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the three month's unemployment I was preparing for).
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My thanks to Bobby Queen and Peter Karlsson for offering to put out
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Fidonews in the event that I was unable. Hopefully I'll be able for
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a long time to come, but it's good to know that there's backup if
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needed :)
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INTERNET INFO
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: April 1, 2000
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
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Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
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List server:
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http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
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Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 15: <vacant>
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Region 16: <vacant>
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: <Vacant>
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
|
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
|
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
|
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
|
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
|
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
|
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
|
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
|
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
|
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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FIDONEWS 17-17 Page 18 24 Apr 2000
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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| | |latency|
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
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2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
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292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Fidonet oriented news servers
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news.osirusoft.com
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news.tardis.net
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Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
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room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
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irc.isonline.com
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irc.killaz-r-us.com
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irc.korombos.org
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses
|
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here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
|
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obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
|
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most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com
|
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will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
|
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stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com
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Masthead
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com |
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| Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org |
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| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com |
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| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
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| Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, wdbonner@pacbell.net |
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| (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") |
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| Humor: Roy Reed, rcreedv@juno.com |
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| Features: Frank Vest, 1:124/6308.1 |
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince |
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| Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, |
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| Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink |
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA
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94141, and are used with permission.
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Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
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Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2000 by Douglas Myers, though authors
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