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F I D O N E W S Volume 17, Number 20 15 May 2000
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| The newsletter of the | ISSN 1198-4589 Published by: |
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| FidoNet community | "FidoNews" |
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| | | \ \\ | Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720 |
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| (jm) | Newspapers should have no friends. |
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Table of Contents
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1. EDITORIAL ................................................ 1
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Much Ado about Nodelisting ............................... 1
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2. ARTICLES ................................................. 4
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ECHO TALK - In Memory of Bob Davidson .................... 4
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On Commercializing Fido Technology ....................... 5
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The FidoNet Technical Standards Committee ................ 6
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3. COLUMNS .................................................. 8
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Ol'WDB: Maine Logic ...................................... 8
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This Weeks Web Page ...................................... 8
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4. NET HUMOR ................................................ 10
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Slogans .................................................. 10
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5. COMIX IN ASCII ........................................... 11
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Famous SciFi Cows ........................................ 11
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6. INTERNET INFO ............................................ 12
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Fidonet-related sites .................................... 12
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7. FIDONEWS INFO ............................................ 16
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Masthead ................................................. 16
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 1 15 May 2000
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EDITORIAL
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Much Ado about Nodelisting
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Doug Myers
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For the last three weeks, the title "Fight-O-Net" seems best
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represented by the goings on in Z1C, the echo for sysops to contact
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the Zone 1 Coordinator. Dallas Hinton, Region 17 Coordinator, has
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been having trouble (apparently for much longer than the three weeks
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the issue has been active in Z1C) getting his region's nodelist
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segments incorporated into the zone 1 nodelist. Frustrated by what
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he perceived as a lack of response from David Moufarrege, Z1C,
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Dallas took his case to the Z1C echo. His words were construed by
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many as calling for David's head:
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----- extracted from Z1C echomail by Dallas -----
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If life (family, work, whatever) is getting in the way for a long
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period, it's up to you which has priority but if it isn't FidoNet
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please step down so someone else can help us. FidoNet has enough
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problems without an absent ZC.
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Almost immediately, Dallas was criticized - both for "attacking"
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David and for "covering up" in the past when he posted for an ill
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Bob Satti, then Z1C. Dallas own political ambitions were
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questioned.
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----- extracted from Z1C echomail by John Souvestre -----
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I find it interesting that when Bob Satti was in a similar position,
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for over a year, you felt otherwise. Indeed, you covered up for
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him. Now that a political adversary holds the office you change
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your tune. An interesting double standard.
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Please note: I'm not saying that I disagree with you now. In fact,
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just the opposite. I disagreed with you when you were covering for
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Bob. This hardly puts you in a position to lead the charge against
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David, however, unless you still lust for the Z1C position yourself.
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Of course, there's been more posted than that which I quoted, but I
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just wanted to illustrate the flavor of the controversy in order to
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comment on the questions raised so far.
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1. Is David Moufarrege about to be removed as Z1C?
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 2 15 May 2000
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I doubt it. What we're following in the Z1C conference is a bunch
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of concerned Fidonet members trying to resolve a technical problem.
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For some reason, we choose to address each other in an apocalyptic
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tone whenever Fido isn't working properly... but this is nothing out
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of the ordinary. Perhaps the gruff talk is the only way we can get
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each other's attention.
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2. Does Dallas "lust" for the Z1C position.
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"Lust" is too strong a term here, implying (to me) that attaining
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the Z1C position is such a strong priority that any means would be
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justified. Dallas has certainly expressed interest in the position
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in the past, as did several of us, but his campaign in the last
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election was waged cleanly and reasonably, showing none of the
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obsession which I would associate with lust.
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Further, I doubt that Dallas would be so artless as to attempt to
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convert a nodelist guffaw into a takeover attempt. Were Dallas the
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master of political intrigue which his detractors credit him, I'm
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sure he could set up something much better. To me, it seems that he
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just wants to get his nodelist segment processed on a regular basis.
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3. Is Dallas to be ostracized for "covering" for Bob Satti in the
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past?
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Though his actions then don't qualify as "openness at all costs," the
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offense to Fidonet is more imagined than real. In the final
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analysis, there's no rule against one sysop typing for another, nor
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was there any demonstrable harm generated by this tactic. The issue
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is likely to whither once again with no resolution like it has the
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last umpteen times it's been discussed.
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4. Is the technical issue resolved yet?
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Yes and no. It's resolved in that region 17's current nodelist
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segment is processed and incorporated in the current zone 1
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nodelist. It's unresolved in that the original difficulty, despite
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much speculation, is still unknown. David Moufarrege contributes
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that, after Dallas' complaint, he found the unprocessed nodelist
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segment in his inbound... but with no clue as to why it didn't
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process. He added it manually with no processing difficulties, so
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there's no hint as to the original difficulty. Several individuals
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have pointed out technical problems with Mike Moon's alternate
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nodelist processor, NLMAKE (which I infer Dallas is using), but it's
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unclear whether these problems were a factor in the nodelist
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processing failure. Most likely, this will only be resolved in the
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future as David monitors the nodelist processing and communicates
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with Dallas.
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The conversation in Z1C is, of course, much more complex than the
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simple overview I've presented here. Two other developments are of
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note and may be subject to further comment in Fidonews:
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 3 15 May 2000
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- Ross Cassell declares the days of the "Good Old Boys" network are
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dead.
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- Bob Satti makes one of the longest posts I've ever seen by him,
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discussing actions he took as Z1C to ensure reliable nodelist
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processing, and offering help to David Moufarrege.
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 4 15 May 2000
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ARTICLES
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. -- -- -- -- -- ECHO TALK -- -- -- -- -- .
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| Food for thought from Fido's echomail. |
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| Purloined without permission by D Myers |
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In Memory of Bob Davidson
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Darrell Salter (1:229/2)
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This was written in the Reg12 echo by Darrell, and I actually did
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get his permission to publish it in Fidonews.
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Hello All!
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Every once in a while we get a phone call that we aren't ready for,
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didn't expect, and it floors us. I got one of those today.
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Bob Davidson has died suddenly.
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Bob was, of course, the NC of Net 163, and to all the sysops of Net
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163 go my deepest condolences.
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Was there anyone that understood friendship as well as Bob? Was
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there anyone that was more helpful to sysops than Bob? Those of you
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than knew Bob know how friendly and helpful he was. I have received
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dozens of netmails and emails from Bob over the last few months, all
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of them helpful hints, tips, suggestions, and notes of
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encouragement. This R12C will miss him greatly. When I think of Bob
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I'm reminded of the Chinese proverb ...
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If you want happiness for an hour -- take a nap
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If you want happiness for a day -- go fishing
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If you want happiness for a year -- inherit a fortune
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If you want happiness for a lifetime -- help someone else
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Bob was a very happy and wise man. I recall a conversation with him
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where we were sharing the aches and pains of work. You see, Bob used
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to work in construction (as I do) until serious back problems forced
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him to persue another line of work. He chose the computer field and
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became a very competant MCSE and Network Administrator. Smart guy?
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You bet. And yet, he never forgot about us, the little guys, the
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much-maligned Fidonet sysops that he proudly called his friends. Bob
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was loved and appreciated.
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But Bob is no longer with us. He touched us, some of us quite
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deeply, and we will never forget him. All that we have, in the end,
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are the people we touched. Not money, not fame, not strength, not
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thoughts. Just the people we touch.
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Darrell
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 5 15 May 2000
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On Commercializing Fido Technology
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Roy J. Tellason (1:270/615)
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> Ok... So why can't we compete with the Internet?
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> MONEY!! Take a look at this. Let's take Fidonet technology, ad
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> money and commercialize it. What do you have? Sell services to
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> customers. We _CAN_ deliver. You need a file from point A to point
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> B? We'll get it there now!! Promote the Fidonet "Business". Get
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> Fidonet Zones, Regions, Hubs, Nodes, Points in all places with
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> software that sets itself up and makes the connection. Build a Point
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> package that works like the "Web Browser". A business pays for the
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> service, gets the software, installs it and starts sending
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> information to where it's needed. The Point software is "mouseable"
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> and "point and click". The software sets up a connection to a Node,
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> Hub, Region, or Zone automatically and there you are. The people
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> above the Point address are the "ISPs" of Fidonet. We charge for the
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> service and deliver the goods. Crash mail direct. For the right
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> money, we can get it there fast! In fact, the "heyday" of Fidonet
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> saw many pay BBS systems that did things very similar to this.
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> With something like this, I'd bet that for transferring of
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> information, Fidonet technology could beat the pants off the
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> Internet and its "site to site" relay system. The real question
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> is.... Do we want to do this?!?!? Not Me!! That would be like the
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> Ham Radio operators trying to compete with the Commercial Radio
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> stations. Where does the hobby end and the business begin?
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And Derrick, in a following article, wrote:
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> This way we could even get the system sponsored so a bigger
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> server can be put up which allows faster and better access.
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> Through webadvertising we could get people's attention and create a
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> new rage that has Fidonet's looks and feels, the graphical user-
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> interface people want, and all the gadgets they get from other
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> servers like ICQ / mIRC / Powwow and all that stuff.
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FWIW, there was an attempt a while back to take fido technology and
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commercialize operations. That was called BIZynet. I was in this
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from near the beginning, though it was started by one Chris Gunn,
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formerly of San Diego though I believe he's now in New Mexico. I
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got to the point of being an RC in this organization, and in fact
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_still_ carry the 70:5/0 address as one of my AKA's, though only
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because I haven't gotten around to taking it out yet.
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I have no idea what Chris is up to these days, the last I heard it
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was something to do with "moderating newsgroups", which always
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struck me as too much like trying to herd cats to be of much
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interest.
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This got started after I "moderated" Chris and others a number of
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times about how fido, being a hobbyist network, was not a place to
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actually _do_ business, particularly with people posting in the
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 6 15 May 2000
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BUSINESS echo. He figured that maybe it was time to start a network
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where it was...
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Unfortunately for this sort of thing to work it needed to attain a
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certain cricital mass in terms of the number of technically
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competent sysops to run the thing. And that didn't happen. What we
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got instead were people with a strong entrepreneurial streak, who
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needed a lot of hand-holding on the technical side, a bit more than
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we could cope with, and it never really took off.
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I've also participated in a few other nets with "business"
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orientations, but for one reason or another they never went
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anywhere either. If somebody wants to get something like this going
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and it's not going to take absurd up-front expenditures of cash,
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I'd sure like to hear from you.
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Roy J. Tellason
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1:270/615
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roy.j.tellason%tanstaaf@frackit.com
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The FidoNet Technical Standards Committee
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This is the first part of three letters posted by Colin Turner in
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the FTSC_PUBLIC echo, containing information about this important
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Fido organization. Thanks to Lesley-Dee Dylan for forwarding this
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information to Fidonews.
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This is a regular automated posting. Some other automated postings
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may follow.
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This conference, FTSC_PUBLIC, exists to allow an easy channel of
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communication between the committee and the membership of FidoNet.
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The FidoNet Technical Standards Committee exists to document current
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practice, and to promote technical innovation in FidoNet and other
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FidoNet Technology Networks (FTNs). Further details can be found in
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FTA-1000 and FTA-1001 (see below).
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Document Archive
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The FTSC maintains an archive of documents which fall into several
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broad categories
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FTA Administrative documents detailing the committee itself;
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FTS Standards for FTNs;
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FSP Proposals for FTNs;
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FRL Old proposals, the reference library for the FTSC.
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 7 15 May 2000
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You can find the entire archive in FidoNet at
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2:443/13.0, 2:443/14.0,
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24 hours (except ZMH),
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300 bps to 64,000 bps (ISDN X75),
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or on the InterNet at
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http://www.ftsc.org
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A list of alternative download sites is available and will also be
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posted at regular intervals.
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Contacts
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Here are some contact details for the FTSC. General enquiries can be
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directed to the FTSC Administrator as detailed below.
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Administrator
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Colin Turner, 2:2/20
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ct@ftsc.org
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Working Groups
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The committee is divided into several working groups. They are
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listed here along with contact details.
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Group A - Data Transmitted
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Colin Turner, 2:2/20
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ct@ftsc.org
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Group B - Connections & Protocols
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Thomas Waldmann, 2:2474/400
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thomas.waldmann@ftsc.org
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Group C - EchoMail & Routing
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Andreas Klein, 2:2480/47
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andreas.klein@ftsc.org
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Group D - Nodelist
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Michael McCabe, 1:297/11
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michael.mccabe@ftsc.org
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Group E - Gating
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Lothar Behet, 2:2446/301
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lothar.behet@ftsc.org
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Group Y - Year 2000 Issues
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Colin Turner, 2:2/20
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ct@ftsc.org
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COLUMNS
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Ol'WDB's Column
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This week, Maine Logic
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wdbonner@pacbell.net
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(A funny)
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A Texan, a Canadian, and a guy from Maine are out riding horses.
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The Texan pulls out an expensive bottle of whiskey, takes a shot,
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then another, and suddenly throws the bottle in the air, pulls out
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his gun and shoots the bottle in midair.
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The Canadian looks at him and says,"What are you doing? That was a
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perfectly good bottle of whiskey. The Texan says, "In Texas,
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there's plenty of whiskey and bottles are cheap."
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A while later, not to be outdone, the Canadian pulls out a bottle of
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champagne, takes a few sips, throws the bottle in the air, pulls out
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his gun and shoots it in mid air also.
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The guy from Maine can't believe this and says, "What did you do
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that for? That was an expensive bottle of Champagne". The Canadian
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says "in Canada there's plenty of Champagne and bottles are
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cheap".
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So a awhile later the guy from Maine pulls out a bottle of beer. He
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opens it,takes a sip, then another sip, then chugs the rest. He
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then puts the bottle back in his saddlebag, pulls out his gun, turns
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around and shoots the Canadian.
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The Texan, shocked says, "Why did you do that?!?" The guy from
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Maine says,"Well in Maine, we have plenty of Canadians, but bottles
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are worth a nickel apeice."
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*No malace intended, was amused that the Texan was not the "goat"
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FOR A CHANGE... Perhaps I'm the "BUTT" for it. Haha
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This Weeks Web Page
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by Frank Vest
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1:124/6308(.1)
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What: Fidonet Region19 Webpage
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Where: http://bise.tzo.com/r19/
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Note: Since I'm the "author" of this page, I feel rather strange
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doing the review. :)
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What can I say?? It's a good page IMHO. We started with a graphic
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 9 15 May 2000
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created by one of the R19 members (graciously donated) and added the
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"dog with diskette". for the most part, this is a low graphics page.
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It should load fast and is designed for information rather than
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"flash". There are contacts for those interested in joining or just
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wishing to "get in touch". On the other pages, you will find more
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information and links.
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Two of the things I like best is the information "blurb" on each
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page and the "Glossary of Terms". Each page has a short text
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describing a part of Fidonet related to that page. The "Glossary" is
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available from each page as well and contains definitions of some of
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the terms used in the pages and in Fidonet in general.
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On a personal note, I've always wanted a Fidonet site that helped
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new visitors to understand "what the heck we are talking about". :)
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I think the Glossary is a good start on that and would like any new
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definition that someone might offer. Also, feel free to link to that
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page and/or other pages at this site. Pass the links around and help
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get some interest in Fidonet going.
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Till next time,
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Frank - flv@texoma.net
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NET HUMOR
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Slogans
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Steven Leeman (2:292/624)
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"Boy meets Fido"
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"Fido gives you always a safe feeling"
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"Fido, as of now also with active Bifidus"
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"Neutral pH? I use Fido!"
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"Wash&Fido, all in one!"
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"Fidonet... Men know why!"
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"If only the whole world were Fido!"
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"Fidonet, you'll feel the difference!"
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"Fidonet, get more out of your mail!"
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"With Fidonet you'll allready be there!"
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"Today : 2 pointnumbers for the price of 1"
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"Fidonet, As good as, but much cheaper!"
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"Always Fidonet!"
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"Collect your Fidonet-points for a Fido-T-Shirt!"
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"Fidonet, Children grow from it!"
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"Fidonet ! The Answer !"
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"Ally McFido" (ahem :) or perhaps better "Ally McMail" :-)))
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"Fidonet - Connecting people"
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"Fidonet - Not good, mail back!"
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"Fidonet, Can't beat the real thing."
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"Fidonet, for a softer and dryer feeling of protection"
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"Fidonet, where we're proud off."
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"Fidonet, Where do you want to go today"
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"Fidonet, obey your SysGod"
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"Internet is nothing, pleasure is everyting.. Fido rules your
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pleasure."
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"Carefulllly..We are the fido-net-army,We don't give a fuck,whatever
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it will be,'cause we are fido-net-army.. :-)"
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"Not vy any chance Fido is the standard.."
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"Oooh noooo.. I never should have been fidonetting at 60 degrees
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Celsius !"
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"the Fido-terminator... I'LL MAIL BACK !!"
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"Let me tell y'about the birds and the bees and a thing called
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fi-do-net.."
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"The future is bright.. the future is Fidonet"
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Famous SciFi Cows
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/oooo\---O
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/oooooo\
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/oooooooo\
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/oooooooooo\
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INTERNET INFO
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! = New entries this week
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? = not responding
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?? = unknown content, doesn't look like fidonet
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. -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- .
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| FIDONET-RELATED SITES |
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` -- -- -- -- --- -- -- -- -- '
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Last update: April 30, 2000
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FidoNet
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Homepage: http://www.fidonet.org
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FidoNews: http://www.fidonews.org [HTML]
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ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/
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Echolist: http://www.baltimoremd.com/echolist/
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Echomail links: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidonet/fidoip.html
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SDS Files: http://fidobbs.dk/download (Web Access to SDS)
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FTSC page: http://www.ftsc.org/
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General: http://www.writebynight.com/fidonet.html
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List server:
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http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/fidonet-discussion
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Zone 1: http://www.z1.fidonet.org
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Region 10: http://www.psnw.com/~net205/region10.html
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http://www.tnl-online.com/andy/rgn10.htm
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Net 103: http://www.webworldinc.com/club103/
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Net 203: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/8687/net203index.html
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Region 11: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/region11/
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Net 2410: http://oeonline.com/~garyg/net2410/
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Region 12: http://sparkys.dyndns.org
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Region 13: http://www.net264.org/r13.htm
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Net 264: http://www.net264.org/
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Net 275: http://www.homershut.net/~mahoover/net275/
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Region 14: http://www.ouijabrd.com/region14
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Net 282: http://www.rxn.com/~net282/
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Region 15: <vacant>
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Region 16: <vacant>
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Region 17: http://www.nwstar.com/~region17/
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Region 18: http://techshop.pdn.net/fido/
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Region 19: http://bise.tzo.com/r19
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Net 124: http://www.startext.net/np/net124
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http://texoma.net/~flv
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Net 130: http://www.startext.net/homes/net130
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Net 393: http://www.chatter.com/~wb/
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Zone 2: http://www.z2.fidonet.org
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ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/zone2 (Z2 nodelists etc.)
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Region 20: http://www.fidonet.pp.se (in Swedish)
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Region 23: http://www.fido.dk (in Danish)
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 13 15 May 2000
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Region 24: http://www.swb.de/personal/flop/gatebau.html (German)
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Fido-IP: http://home.nrh.de/fido/ (English/German)
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Region 25: http://www.literary.freeserve.co.uk/net2502/
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Region 26: http://www.nemesis.ie
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REC 26: http://www.nrgsys.com/orb
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Region 27: http://telematique.org/ft/r27.htm
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Region 29: http://www.rtfm.be/fidonet/ (French)
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http://Welcome.to/skynetbbs/
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Region 30: http://www.fidonet.ch (German)
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? Region 33: http://www.fidoitalia.net (Italian)
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Region 34: http://www.pobox.com/cnb/r34.htm (Spanish)
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REC34: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/4552/
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Region 36: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/7207/
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Region 38: http://public.st.carnet.hr/~blagi/bbs/adriam.html
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Region 41: http://www.fidonet.gr (Greek/English)
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Region 42: http://www.fido.cz
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! Net422: http://www.fido.sk (Slovak/English)
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Region 50: http://www.fido7.com/ (Russian)
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Net 5010: http://fido.tu-chel.ac.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5015: http://www.fido.nnov.ru/ (Russian)
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Net 5028: http://5028.yaroslavl.ru/
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Net 5030: http://kenga.ru/fido/ (Russian & English)
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Net 5049: http://www.n5049.z2.fidonet.org (English/Russian)
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?? Net 5085: http://www.fidonet.uz/ (Russian)
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Zone 3: http://www.z3.fidonet.org
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Zone 4:
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Region 80: http://fidobrasil.8m.com (Portuguese)
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Region 90:
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Net 904: http://members.tripod.com/~net904 (Spanish)
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Zone 5: http://www.eastcape.co.za/fidonet/
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Zone 6: http://www.z6.fidonet.org
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Region 65: http://www.cfido.com/fidonet/cfidochina.html
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(Chinese)
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Fidonet Via Internet Hubs
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See also: http://www.osirusoft.com/fidoip.html
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a @ preceding an individual's name implies a virtual email
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address. The email is translated as follows
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firstlast@osirusoft.com will automatically route to the
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appropriate individual's email. Anyone in this list will
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also receive routed notice of this feature. In my case, it
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would still be joejared@osirusoft.com, but you get the idea.
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Also, as information is provided to me, I will be adding a
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latency field to each node, which is defined as the maximum
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time between when the message is received, and when it is
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sent on to other nodes, or available to be sent onward,
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defined in minutes. A latency of ! implies that there is an
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immediate response, and an attempt to deliver immediately
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FIDONEWS 17-20 Page 14 15 May 2000
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after processing, or a "MinuteMail System", as it were.
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v-email flag firstnamelastname@osirusoft.com
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| email address or
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Node# | Operator | Facilities (*) | Speed,| Basic Rate
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Zone 1 | | | |
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10/3 @ Brenda Donovan | FTP,UUE,BinkP | 384K,30| n/c
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10/345 @ Todd Cochrane | FTP,BinkP,VMOT | T1,! | n/c
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12/12 @ Ken Wilson | FTP | T1 | $24mo.
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13/25 @ Jim Balcom | FTP | 56k | $20mo.
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103/5 @ Mark Luetger | BinkP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/153 @ Michael Box | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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103/301 @ Joe Jared | BinkP,FTP | 384k,!| n/c
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103/401 @ Warren Bonner | BinkP | aDSL,!| n/c
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105/8 | Russ Johnson | FTP,BinkP,VMoT | 384k | n/c
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105/72 @ Larry James | FTP, BinkP | aDSL | $50/yr
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106/1 @ Matt Bedynek | BinkP, FTP | 128k | n/c
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106/6018 | Lawrence Garvin | FTP, VMoT | aDSL,60| n/c
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107/453 @ Jeffrey Estevez| FTP,BinkP,VMoT,UUE| 56k,60| $10 mo.
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140/1 @ Bob Seaborn | FTP,BinkP | T3,30 | $5/$16
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167/133 | Stephen Monteith | BinkP | 128k+ | n/c
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211/417 @ Korombos | BinkP,UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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218/109 @ Matt Munson | BinkP,UUE | 33.6k | n/c
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244/2 | Kari Suomela | FTP,VMoT,BinkP,UUE| T1,! | $25.00/mo
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246/160 @ Mason Vye | FTP, UUE | 56K | n/c
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271/140 @ Tom Barstow | UUE,FTP | T1 | n/c
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280/169 | Brian Greenstreet | FTP | 33.6 | $2mo.
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342/3 @ Richard Dodsworth | BinkP,FTP | 128K+ | n/c
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395/670 | Arthur Stark | BinkD,FTP | 128k | n/c
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396/1 @ John Souvestre | FTP,VMoT | T1,10 | $5/mo
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396/45 | Marc Lewis | UUE | 33.6 | $26/yr
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2604/104 @ Jim Mclaughlin | FTP,VMoT,UUE | 33.6 | $1mo
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2613/404 @ David Moufarrege | BinkP,FTP,VMoT | 128k+,!| n/c
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2624/306 @ David Calafrancesco | VMoT | 33.6 | n/c
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3613/2 @ jyates@bsdi.ldl.net | UUE | 28.8 | n/c
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3632/84 | Robert Todd |FTP,VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 57.6k | n/c
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3639/93 @ Ross Cassell | FTP, BinkP |128K+,!| n/c
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3651/9 @ Jerry Gause | FTP,VMoT | 33.6 | $3/$6
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Zone 2 |
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20/11 | Henrik Lindhe | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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31/1 | Gabriel Plutzar | BinkP | T1+ | n/c
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203/600 | Mikael Karlsson | UUE | 64k | n/c
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221/360 @ Tommi Koivula | BinkP,UUE | ??? | n/c
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236/205 @ Michael Kaaber | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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246/2098 | Volker Imre | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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284/800 @ Jeroen VanDeLeur | FTP,UUE | 64k | n/c
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292/620 | Eddy Missoul | VMoT, UUE | 64k |N/C
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292/624 | Steven Leeman | UUE | 64k | N/C
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292/2003 | Eric Vaneberck | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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301/1 | Peter Witschi | BinkP | 768k | n/c
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332/807 | Roberto Mascolo | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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335/535 @ Mario Mure | BinkP,VMot,UUE | 64k | n/c
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335/610 | Gino Lucrezi | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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344/201 | Julio Garcia | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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346/3 @ Carlos Navarro | UUE | ??? | n/c
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382/100 | Sinisa Burina | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Ofir Michaeli & | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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406/555 | Marius Kaizerman | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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423/81 | Milos Bajer | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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464/4077 | Serguei Trouchelle| UUE | 19.2 | n/c
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465/204 | Va Milushnikov | BinkP | 33.6k | n/c
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469/84 | Max Masyutin | VMoT | 256k | n/c
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480/112 | Adam Sarapata| FTP, VMoT, UUE,BinkP| 128k | n/c
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2411/413 @ Dennis Dittrich | UUE,BinkP | 64k | n/c
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2446/301 | Lothar Behet | BinkP,VMoT,UUE,FTP | 64K | n/c
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2474/275 | Christian Emig | UUE | 64k | unkn
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5030/115 | Andrey Podkolzin | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5100/8 | Egons Bush | BinkP | ??? | n/c
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5020/1159 | Gennady Kudryashoff | UUE | 33.6 | n/c
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Zone 3
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633/260 @ Malcolm Miles | FTP,BinkP | 64K | n/c
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640/954 | Rick Van Ruth | FTP,VMot,UUE,BinkP| 56K| n/c
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774/605 @ Barry Blackford|BinkP,VMoT:10023,ifcico,FTP |33.6| n/c
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Zone 4
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905/100 | Fabian Gervan | VMoT,UUE,BinkP | 128k | n/c
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902/18 | Javier Tejedor | UUE | 33,6 | n/c
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* FTP = Internet File Transfer Protocol
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* VMoT = Virtual Mailer over Telnet (various)
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* UUE = uuencode<->email type transfers
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* BinkP = front end mailer for TCPIP networks
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Fidonet oriented news servers
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news.osirusoft.com
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news.tardis.net
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Fidonet oriented chat rooms.
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room #fidonet 5PM (PDT 11AM GMT) Sundays
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irc.osirusoft.com (Peers wanted)
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Please send updates, corrections and suggestions to
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Joe Jared, 1:103/301, joejared@osirusoft.com. All email addresses
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here for purpose of corresponding with fidonet members about
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obtaining a feed. Improper use of the virtual email addresses, and
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most especially, email addressed to blockme@relays.osirusoft.com
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will be considered a request to be blocked by my open relay spam
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stopper at http://relays.osirusoft.com
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Masthead
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- FIDONEWS STAFF - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| Editor: Douglas Myers, 1:270/720, DougM@paonline.com |
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| Webmaster: Jim Barchuk, jb@fidonews.org |
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| Columnist: Joe Jared, 1:103/0, jarhead@osirusoft.com |
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| (Fido Via Internet Hubs column) |
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| Columnist: Warren D. Bonner, 1:103/401, wdbonner@pacbell.net |
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| (Warren uses the pen name "Ol'WDB") |
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| Humor: Roy Reed, rcreedv@juno.com |
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| Features: Frank Vest, 1:124/6308.1 |
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- - EDITORS EMERITI - -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| Tom Jennings, Thom Henderson, Dale Lovell, Vince |
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| Perriello, Tim Pozar, Sylvia Maxwell, Donald Tees, |
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| Christopher Baker, Zorch Frezberg, Henk Wolsink |
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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"Fido", "FidoNet" and the dog-with-diskette are U.S. registered
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trademarks of Tom Jennings, P.O. Box 410923, San Francisco, CA
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94141, and are used with permission.
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Fidonews is published weekly by and for the members of Fidonet.
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Fidonews is Copyright (C) 2000 by Douglas Myers, though authors
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retain rights to their contributed articles. Opinion expressed by
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the authors is strictly their own. Noncommercial duplication and
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distribution within Fidonet is encouraged. Authors are encouraged
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to send their articles in ASCII text to Douglas Myers at one of his
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addresses above.
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The weekly edition of Fidonews is distributed through the file area
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FIDONEWS, and is published as echomail in the echo FIDONEWS. These
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sources are normally available through your Network Coordinator.
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The current and past issues are also available from the following
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sources:
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+ -- -- -- -- -- -- - FIDONEWS AVAILABILITY - -- -- -- -- -- -- +
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| Freq FIDONEWS @ 1:270/720, 1:140/1, or 1:396/1 |
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| ftp://ftp.sstar.com/fidonet/fnews/ |
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| ftp://ftp.nwstar.com/fidonet/fidonews/ |
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| http://www.fidonews.org |
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| email subscription: majordomo@fidonews.org |
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| (subject: help body: list) |
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| ftp mail: ftpmail@fidonews.org (subject: help) |
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