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Conspiracy Nation -- Vol. 1 Num. 15
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("Quid coniuratio est?")
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[From an interview with Linda Thompson on the *For the People*
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radio show, Feb. 11, 1994. Host is Chuck Harder.]
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[Continued...]
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CHUCK HARDER: Hello, everybody. Hi. Chuck Harder, *For The
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People*.
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Well there is some light shining on the Waco matter. And that
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searchlight is directed by one Linda Thompson, who is an attorney
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and who is investigating this independently. She has produced 2
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videotapes. One has pretty much gone across the United States,
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one way or another, called "Waco, the Big Lie." She's got a
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totally new, updated version, with a *tremendous* amount of new
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footage; stuff never been seen, a lot of it. Got in different
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ways (and we'll not go into that.) But the point of it is... it's
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called "Waco, the Big Lie Continues," and we're offering it
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[...info on how to obtain...]
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And Linda is on the line. And we're talking about the Waco
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matter. Uh, where we left off last hour... we're now at the 911
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tapes.
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LINDA THOMPSON: Well you were asking about the proof of the
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helicopters firing...
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HARDER: Yeah. Right.
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THOMPSON: ...first. And just a quick rundown of that: We have the
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children's own stories that the helicopters fired into 'em.
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Annetta Richards, who was one of the old ladies that came out
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with the kids said that. Dick DeGuerin, the attorney who went in,
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saw the roof was full of bullet holes -- *he* said that. He also
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said that a nursing mother and a child had been killed in that
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room. Then we have the "critique" of the ATF report by the
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investigators, saying they should have used helicopters that
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*had* firepower -- which is a lie, because we have a picture
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showing one of the helicopters with a .308 machine gun in it, and
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there were .308 bullets recovered from the upstairs room.
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So all those things, so far, are proof of the helicopters firing
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in. And then we also have the 911 tapes where the Branch
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Davidians call the police and they say, throughout that 911 tape
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you've got one fellow saying, "Here come the helicopters again!
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And with more guys and more guns!" and "The helicopters are gonna
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shoot down at us." You know, things like that, throughout the 911
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tape...
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HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
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THOMPSON: ...talking about the helicopter firing on 'em!
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HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
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THOMPSON: So I have no doubt that that... you know, to me, that
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is a given.
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HARDER: O.K. Can we prove that the government and/or the
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helicopters (which is also the government) fired first?
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THOMPSON: Well, that is the only thing that makes sense. And you
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can see the helicopters. The ATF report admits that the
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helicopters got there about a half hour before they did. They got
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there too soon.
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HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
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THOMPSON: And in the footage that *is* available, you can see the
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helicopters off on the horizon coming back for a second pass. So
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yes they *were* already there. Yes they *have* already been
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across. And with all this other evidence that they fired into the
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roof, it only makes sense that that's who fired first. Uh, and
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that's what the Branch Davidians are saying too. The two... the
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older lady that came out, she said that,...
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HARDER: O.K.
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THOMPSON: ...that that was the first firing which... You see,
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what does that do? Whoever set this up was really pretty smart
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because it makes both sides think the other side shot first. And
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neither side is aware that it's coming from the helicopter at
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that point.
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And you remember the ATF, when they first reported all this, they
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said, "They had a machine gun!" You know, "They had a .50 caliber
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machine gun firing at us!" And then it turns out they didn't have
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any .50 caliber machine gun. But the ATF wasn't crazy when they
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were saying they heard machine gun fire. They were telling the
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truth. It came from a .308, which is a fairly heavy caliber
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machine gun, that was in the helicopter.
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HARDER: All right. So... So here we have, essentially, a
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government that through its agents has murdered citizens -- call
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it what you like. And now you tell me that they are essentially
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throwing the trial, so that some, or many, of the Branch
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Davidians who survived will most likely be acquitted.
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What does that mean?
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THOMPSON: Well, they're controlling... The whole thing from
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beginning to end has been damage control on what's gonna be
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released to the public. What they *don't* want the public to
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know, from the first day, is that they killed children. 'Cause
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you remember, all the propaganda that came out was: They were
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doing this *because* of the children. We were all supposed to
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believe that this was out of concern for the children; that
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somehow they're going to protect these children and save these
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children. That was the pitch. That was the angle that they chose
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to pitch this from.
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HARDER: Um-hmm. [Indicates he understands]
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THOMPSON: Last thing they could afford to do is admit that they
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killed kids the first day.
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And then the last bit of cover-up that we're getting, for the
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final day they killed children, too. There were 17 children under
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the age of 5 killed in the final conflagration. So they can't
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admit [any responsibility for] that either.
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*All* of what we're seeing right now is damage control, to make
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sure that just enough gets out that the same story is
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perpetuated: That David Koresh was a lunatic, these people were
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brainwashed, it's all their fault -- but these particular people
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[on trial] probably didn't do too much (that they're going to get
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acquittals on). *That's* going to be the story. That's what
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they're doing is damage control.
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The *real* story is, the ATF raided this place and they did use a
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plan that was configured in conjunction with Special Forces. The
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head of the team, Bill Buford, is ex-Special Forces. All the
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planning was done hand-in-hand with 7th Special Forces out of
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Fort Bragg. That is in the ATF report.
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HARDER: All right, now wait a minute. Let's do this: a quick 2
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minute break here. But when we come back, I want to know what the
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original plan was -- according to the information you have --
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what was the original plan? And why?
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We'll be right back, with Linda Thompson.
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(to be continued)
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Aperi os tuum muto, et causis omnium filiorum qui pertranseunt.
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Aperi os tuum, decerne quod justum est, et judica inopem et
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pauperem. -- Liber Proverbiorum XXXI: 8-9
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