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BTN: Birmingham Telecommunications News
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COPYRIGHT 1989
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June 1989 Volume 2, Issue 6
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Table Of Contents
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Article Title Author
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Policy Statement and Disclaimer................Mark Maisel
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Editorial Column...............................Randy Hilliard
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Insights.......................................Ron Albright
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SQL: The Roots Of OS/2........................Kelly Rosato
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Another Top Ten List...........................Tyros
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Profile: Kathy Maisel.........................Chris Mohney
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Our Local BBS Systems..........................Mark Maisel
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From The Kitchen...............................Chez Stephan
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Message Board..................................Barry Bowden
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Known BBS Numbers..............................Mark Maisel
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Disclaimer and Statement of Policy for BTN
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We at BTN try our best to assure the accuracy of articles and
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information in our publication. We assume no responsibility for
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damage due to errors, omissions, etc. The liability,if any for BTN, its
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editors and writers, for damages relating to any errors or omissions,
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etc., shall be limited to the cost of a one year subscription to BTN,
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even if BTN, its editors or writers have been advised of the likelihood
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of such damages occurring.
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With the conclusion of that nasty business, we can get on with our
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policy for publication and reproduction of BTN articles. We publish
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monthly with a deadline of the fifteenth of the month prior to
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publication. If you wish to submit an article, you may do so at any
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time but bear in mind the deadline if you wish for your work to appear
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in a particular issue. It is not our purpose to slander or otherwise
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harm a person or reputation and we accept no responsibility for the
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content of the articles prepared by our writers. Our writers own their
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work and it is protected by copyright. We allow reprinting of articles
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from BTN with only a few restrictions. The author may object to a
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reprint, in which case he will specify in the content of his article.
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Otherwise, please feel free to reproduce any article from BTN as long as
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the source, BTN, is specified, and as long as the author's name and the
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article's original title are retained. If you use one of our articles,
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please forward a copy of your publication to:
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Mark Maisel
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Editor, BTN
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221 Chestnut St.
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BHM, AL 35210-3219
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We thank you for taking the time to read our offering and we hope that
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you like it. We also reserve the right to have a good time while doing
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all of this and not get too serious about it.
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/*****************************************************************\
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==> ** EFFECTIVE JUNE 1 ..... America OnLine's phone number will be ** <==
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==> ** 323-2016 ** <==
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==> ** ** <==
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==> ** (Node 4 will remain on it's current number.) ** <==
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/*****************************************************************\
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==> ** EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY ...... ** <==
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==> ** PINSON VALLEY BBS IS OUT OF SERVICE FOR ** <==
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==> ** AN UNSPECIFIED LENGTH OF TIME ** <==
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Semi-Editorial
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by Randy Hilliard
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Tah-tah-tah-TAH-TAAA!
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Believe it or not, this months issue of BTN should be on time!
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(Assuming that Mark can find it on his hard disk -- last month it took
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him 5 days and a phone call.) This is indeed a rarity in the last few
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months and should be cheered. Hopefully we can make a habit of it
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but-I-ain't-betting-on-it.
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Ron Albright makes his debut in BTN this month (this is hardly the
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most auspicious place this gentleman has debuted) with an article on
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information networks and where they may be going in the near future.
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Kelly Rosato is back in BTN again this month. This time he has
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provided us with an article on OS/2 / SQL. This should prove
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interesting to those thinking of getting their feet wet with a newer
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operating system (before they part with the bucks).
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Our profile this month should prove interesting to those of us who
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know our Idiot-in-Chief (or have just heard some about him). The
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profile is on his wife! Now we can get a glimpse of what it may be like
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to be married to an editorial protegee (or Mark anyway).
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Tyros has once again returned to BTN; this time with a semi-
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satirical Top Ten List of statements that Birmingham natives are likely
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to hear from visitors to our fair city.
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Our local BBS spotlight this month focuses on what I believe to be
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the longest continuously running BBS in Birmingham today: Ziggy Unaxess,
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and its sysop, Ziggy Powers.
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Chez Stephan has pulled his grill out again to prove to us that
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shrimp and oysters make a wonderful, tasty meal when cooked out. I wish
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I'd had this recipe Memorial Day!
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Barry Bowden has this months Message Board ready and for once we
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seem to be early enough for it to be of maximum use.
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One other announcement remains to be made:
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Despite approximately one year of successful operation on six
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systems EzNet has shut down due to difficulties that arose shortly after
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the the code was modified to interface with PC Board version 14 and
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EzNet began expanding to include more systems.
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Personality and policy conflicts arose shortly after the expansion
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and decorum went out the window on all sides. Due to this public lack of
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restraint the BUS withdrew from EzNet and EzNet Central announced its
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intention to withdraw its support within 36 hours.
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The purpose of EzNet was to better communications and
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understandings between Sysops and Users alike. The authors of the EzNet
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code never intended it to be used for public displays of baiting, name
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calling, and innuendo, thus both Eznet authors withdrew their support
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from the Net.
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As a Node Operator of EzNet and as a user on other systems, I feel
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as if we came very close to losing a very useful tool. EzNet Central
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notified me this evening that the Central system will indeed stay up.
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EzNet is a way to reach either one or many people very rapidly with
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information, news, announcements, and such. It was not intended for
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slip fights. If you have a problem with another user, then please seek
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another route other than EzNet.
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INSIGHTS
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Confessions on a Communications Fanatic
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by Ron Albright
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Well, since this is the first installment of "Insights," it's
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probably a good idea to introduce myself and explain what I hope to
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accomplish. Bear with me while we get through these preliminaries.
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My name is Ron Albright, 38 y.o., an M.D. by trade and a computer
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fanatic by preference. I use PC-based hardware and software. I am a
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contributing editor to Computer Shopper magazine and have been (at one
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time or other) assistant sysop on CompuServe as well as Delphi. I have
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written 3 books on computers and have a fourth in the "it's at the
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publisher" (Chilton Books) stage. My passion is communications
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applications and that is what the books are about. The only thing of
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interest to you (since you are, obviously, skilled in
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computer-to-computer communications) is that one of the books was
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totally self-published and computer-generated. Word Perfect 4.2 =>
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Ventura Publisher => Okidata LaserLine 6 proofs => printer (in Michigan)
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=> plates => print & bind. I had 1500 copies printed, and have just
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about sold out using mail order ads. It has been a fun "experiment" in
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self-publishing, mailing list management, and other computer
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applications. My best effort to date was done by a "legitimate"
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publisher, Information Resources Press, (Virginia) and called "The Guide
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to Online Information resources for Health Care Professionals." It, on
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the other hand, is quite nice (hardcover, 300 pages) and, better still,
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I didn't have to pay for it. As mentioned, I have finished another book
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that is on small business applications for communications (email, voice
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mail, fax, information retrieval, etc). It will be out in Waldenbooks
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and Daltons, God Willing, this fall. I have experience with PC fax,
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voice mail, email, and database access, among other things with the
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trusty PC. I love this machine and were it not for having to make a
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living doing something else, I would do computer consulting and writing
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for a living. But, then, I guess a lot of us fall into that basket.
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Anyway, the "Insights" column will focus on communications by
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computer. Principally, the national networks - CompuServe, GEnie,
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Delphi, and The Source. Dedicated email carriers - MCI Mail, AT&T Mail,
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Western Union EasyLink will be mentioned as we go along. Since the local
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BBS scene is already covered by more knowledgeable writers in this
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newsletter, I will stick to commentary on the commercial nets.
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Occasionally, other technology - fax and voice mail, for example - will
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creep into things as well. So, here we go.
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What's wrong with the information networks?
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While the electronic communication and information systems now in
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place offer exciting potential, they remain underutilized. The
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electronic information industry, alone, is growing by leaps and bounds
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(revenues are at $2 billion and predicted to double in the next 5
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years), but these systems are still much too alien for the general
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public. While there are an estimated 22.8 million PC's in U.S. homes
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alone, the total user base for commercial networks is estimated at 1.5
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million or so. The complexities of the technology just to access these
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networks can be overwhelming for the beginner. It still requires some
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degree of study and work to set up a computer for telecommunication. For
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the new user, it is not easy. And their reluctance is understandable.
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Until it is easily accessible, those who take advantage of what is
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available will remain a small percentage of the total computer users.
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While I realize I am preaching to users who already have mastered the
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technology, bear with me while I lament.
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The barriers to effective use of the system do not stop with the
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technology itself. The networks can be as difficult to use for the
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novice as they are to connect to. Each system has a unique structure and
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there is no continuity. While the basic functions - email, electronic
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conferencing, downloading, etc. - are the same, technologically
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speaking, how to do them varies from network to network. Learning one
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system's commands does little to simplify successful use of another
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system.
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The third aspect which has limited the effective use of the
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existing information systems is their cost. The systems are expensive to
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use. Particularly when compared with the public library or the
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telephone. The network providers argue that these electronic libraries
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save you time over the traditional shelves and card indexes of the
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library and that electronic mail is more efficient than endless games of
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telephone tag. While this is certainly true for the frequent user, it
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remains difficult for the ordinary user to realize such advantages in
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efficiency and time savings.
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Finally, there is an educational gap. There is a serious lack of
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awareness among the general public and professionals in all fields of
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what can be accomplished through online information systems. The
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commercial database systems have not produced an adequate public
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education campaign. Most potential users may have an idea that
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information can be accessed by a computer but have little understanding
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of the speed and efficiency with which it can be retrieved.
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With these four barricades separating the public from the
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electronic information systems, it is easy to see where things must move
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for the two to come together. And they will come together. What you will
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see in the future is a marked relaxation of the technological hurdles
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users must overcome to access the networks.
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The Minitel story...
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The success of the Minitel system in France is a prime example of
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how things can be done. Certainly, France is not traditionally
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recognized as a high-tech nation. But, with Minitel, a videotex service,
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they have taught their American counterparts a few lessons. Hopefully.
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After all, with 4.5 million users on Minitel they must be doing
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something right. Rather than sell information and leave it up to the
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subscriber to find a way to access it, Postes Telephones and
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Telecommunications, the state-owned monopoly that controls France's
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postal and telephone services, provides a complete system to its
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subscribers. A simple terminal is lent to subscribers and installed
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without charge. The tiny terminal (the basic unit is 12 by 9 inches)
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does not have the power and data storage of a PC, but that is not its
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purpose. There are no modems or RS232 cards to install, no parity
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settings to deal with, and no complicated software to learn. It's a
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plug-in and go setup. The public has instant access with no
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technological preparation required. Once connected, the services
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provided are simple to use. Everything is menu driven. If you can order
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in a restaurant or choose your floor in an elevator, you can use the
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system. The access charges are cheap. They are based on services
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accessed, more so than time online. You are not penalized for being a
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new, inefficient user. You pay for what you retrieve. And retrieve the
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French did - from sports reports, to weather, to food prices, to online
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"chatting" (probably the most popular feature with the flirtatious
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French) - to the tune of 2.33 million access hours per month. PTT earned
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$70 million in 1985, and profits have, undoubtedly, increased in
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succeeding years. Projections are for terminals to be added at the rate
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of 1 million per year. Expansion is limited only by the rate at which
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France can produce the terminals - not by user demand.
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The message for the American information industry is clear. Yes,
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there is a market for online information resources. But it can only be
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tapped by relaxing the technological toll inflicted on its potential
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users. By making a system easy to access and use, and reasonably priced,
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and full-featured, people will flock to the door.
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What you can expect in the very near future is an increasingly
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simple interface between the information systems and the user. The
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emphasis will switch from the technology to the purpose; from modems and
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baud to communication and information access. The systems themselves
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will simplify and, eventually, move toward standardization. They will
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allow functioning at two levels online. In a menu-mode, for the
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infrequent user - guiding them along every step of the way - and a
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command mode for the experienced - taking advantage of the efficiency
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and speed that will bring. Systems will increasingly move toward lower
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access rates and these charges will be based more on information
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retrieved than on connect time. You will be charged $2 per hour, but,
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perhaps, 10 cents for every 1000 characters that cross your screen.
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These changes will probably take place in the next few years.
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The first move?
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The much ballyhooed joint venture, initially with CBS, IBM, and
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Sears involved and dubbed Trintex, should finally produce a product in
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1988. After a few false starts and loss of one of the original players
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(CBS), IBM and Sears have rolled out their system - called "Prodigy" in
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several of the largest U.S. cities. The closest to us in Birmingham is
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Atlanta. The network will expand to nationwide within 2-3 years. Sears
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and IBM have set the monthly fee for residential users of their service
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at $9.95. Subscriptions are sold through retail stores. Hayes
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Microcomputer Products has announced it is producing a modem for the
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system that will be a "plug-in-and-go" setup, making getting started
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with Prodigy almost as simple as with Minitel. All cables will be
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provided with the modem and you will buy a specific setup for your
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particular computer brand. There will be no access charges for Prodigy -
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only the flat, monthly fee (sound familiar?). The consumer services
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offered will include home shopping, banking, ticketing, messaging and
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information/entertainment services. No terminals are offered and access
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will be by a traditional computer/modem/phone line interface.
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Until the American communications and information industry wakes up
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and eases the burdens on new users, "modem jockies" like us will
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continue to be a small minority of computer users as a whole. But I see
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the first yawns of the sleeping giant as it begins to awaken.
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SQL: The Roots Of OS/2
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by Kelly Rosato
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Like the rumble of distant thunder, the term OS/2 makes us look
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uneasily up from our terminals and peer off into the near future. We've
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heard that all this new technology is going to make all of our old
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favorites in software obsolete, or that it was going to be the
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renaissance of computers.
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The truth lies somewhere in between. OS/2 has it's origins in a
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language called SQL (Sequential Query Language) referred to from here as
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SQL, or Sequel, developed in 1976 By IBM. IBM has used SQL on
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mainframes and minicomputers for several years and now on micro-
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computers. Not an application itself, SQL acts as an interpretive
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language like BASIC. SQL statements pass through a SQL "engine" to the
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underlying database, where they are executed.
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Before we discuss the system itself, we need to examine the reasons
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for the growing popularity of the SQL language. It's smart: the SQL
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engine knows where the data is, what indexes to use and the most
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efficient sequence to find the information. By contrast, a procedural
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language like dBASE must be told what information you want and how to
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get it, step by step. Another large advantage is it's potential as a
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standard for database query language, as it is already well established
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in the mainframe and minicomputer markets. Most important, with SQL
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it's possible for a single inquiry from a mainframe, mini, or micro
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computer to search several different computers of any of the three sizes
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mentioned in a single query. This is an especially important point for
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corporate users. You may say "Thats all well and good for a
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corporation, but what will it do for the personal user and more
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specifically, the bbs's?". With it's power and flexibility, a personal
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user can make use of the extensive search and find capabilities of the
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SQL commands. I also foresee a time when by using "Grant" and "Revoke"
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commands (See command explanations), the sysop and user will be able to
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utilize the power of SQL languages with no lengthy work on either
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parties end, therefor simplifying and making bbs's even more user and
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sysop friendly.
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And no you don't have to learn the language either, but it's worth
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the time it takes to learn. Anyone with a fairly logical mind and the
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manual open can run a SQL system proficiently in an hour or two. Also,
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programs can be written in C or Pascal with SQL commands embedded and be
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OS/2 and SQL compatible, so your favorite programs and software aren't
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dead or obsolete, you'll simply see new versions that have been
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interlinked for OS/2 compatibility.
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Now for a brief summary of some of the SQL and OS/2 commands and
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what they do in conjunction to operate the system. IBM's SQL OS/2 uses
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14 basic commands to operate the system, these are:
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SELECT: Roughly equivalent to dBASE's LIST. SELECT is SQL's most used
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command. SELECT can be nestled into subqueries, where a single
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statement has many levels and retrieves a complex set of data
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from a variety of different tables. Most databases require
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several queries to get the information that SQL obtains in a
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single statement.
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INSERT: This command inserts new data records, or rows into a database.
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UPDATE: Allows a user to modify field values for a single or multiple
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record.
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DELETE: Deletes one or more data records, or rows from a database.
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CREATE TABLE: Creates a new data table.
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CREATE INDEX: Creates a index, and attaches it to the system catalog.
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DROP TABLE: Deletes a specified data table from the system.
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DROP INDEX: Deletes a specified index from the system.
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ALTER TABLE: Allows you to insert new information to an existing table
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to restructure that specific database.
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CREATE VIEW: View is a way of creating virtual and interlocking
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databases that can do the functions of both (or more)
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tables.
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GRANT: This allows the system supervisor to give access to specified
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tables and databases, and the right to use SQL commands on them.
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REVOKE: Opposite of GRANT.
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COMMIT: One the most powerful of the SQL commands, it allows the
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stringing of SQL commands in a group for a single transaction.
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ROLLBACK: Another data integrity command, ROLLBACK work with a COMMIT.
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In case of a system crash or other problem, it allows a
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transaction to be "ROLLEDBACK", returning the information
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back to the exact state before the problem.
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The best thing about SQL is that it's a nonprocedural. That means
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that it's smart. It knows exactly where information is and how to get
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it. The drawback to these wonderfully simple commands and "smart"
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system is that it's a memory devourer. An average dBASE type program
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requires 640to 1.2 megs to run, plus another 2-4.7 megs for SQL or OS/2.
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Also an irritating fact that really slows OS/2 and SQL down is that they
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use "Sequential Query". That means that if you ask it to search for a
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file using a SELECT subquery, then even if that file is the first one in
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the database it will go through all the files even though it's found the
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file already.
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Don't expect SQL compatibility to be cheap either. A basic
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database program (Ingress, for instance , the most inexpensive on the
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market right now) starts at $1450.00 for the basic package.
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All together the OS/2 seems to be a good operational system for a
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large computer due to it's database abilities and simple use for a large
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corporate datanet, but it seems rather wasteful for the small user that
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doesn't want to buy a system that will run DOS and SQL or OS/2, and not
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only in dual compatibility between the two, but to also have to pay the
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price for a larger memory capacity needed. Many users seem to express a
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desire for an Operating System that will give them the flexibility and
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smarts of SQL, but with the size and speed of DOS. This is not it but
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perhaps OS/2 and SQL will lead to that end.
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References: PC World Feb '88
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McGraw-Hill Dictionary of Scientific and Technical Terms.
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Top Ten Things Heard From Out-Of-Town Vistiors On The Streets Of
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Birmingham
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By Tyros
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10. Where are all the other tourists?
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9. Oh, all right Mr. Arrington, here's my last five bucks.
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8. Boy, I'm glad we're all on the same side now, aren't you?
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7. Look honey, running water and everything.
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6. What exactly IS the "Alabama Reunion"?
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5. What do you mean by "racism"? We got this parking space FIRST,
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Congressman Reed!
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4. Could we get this changed to Confederate money?
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3. What happened to that horse track that was here last time we came
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through?
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2. Can you give us directions to Martin Luther King's gravesite?
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1. IT REALLY IS A SLEEPY SOUTHERN TOWN.
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PRO FILE
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by Chris Mohney
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The Pro File is a short, half-serious biographical sketch given to
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various computer telecommunications personalities around Birmingham.
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Victims are selected randomly from a group of names put into the
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notorious Hat. Anyone who thinks himself brave or witty enough may
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petition for admittance to the Hat by leaving E-Mail to me (Chris
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Mohney, most boards around town) to that effect. Anyone who wishes to
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suggest more questions or sneakily nominate someone without their
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knowledge may take the same route ....
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Pro File on KATHY MAISEL
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Age: None of your business
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Birthplace: Bellefont, PA.
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Occupation: Electronic Data Processing Auditor, are you impressed?
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My hobbies include: sex, computing, cards, reading, more sex, writing,
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and sleeping
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Years telecomputing: 5
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Sysop, past/present/future of: Don't be silly. I'd never work that hard.
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My oddest habit is: putting on a suit and talking like I know what I am
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doing for 5 days out of every week. I think you
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call it a job.
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My greatest unfulfilled ambition is: to get my husband's attention away
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from the computer without having
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to yell,"FIRE!"
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The single accomplishment of which I am most proud is: staying married
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to Mark Maisel
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for over 7 years.
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My favorite performers are: Rick Moranis, Cheech and Chong, Julie
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Andrews and Captain Kangaroo.
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The last good movie I saw was: The Princess Bride
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The last good book I read was: The Mists of Avalon by Marion Bradley
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If they were making a movie of my life, I'd like to see my part played
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by: Yoda
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My pet peeves are: Malls, Grocery Store Layouts, Soap Operas, and people
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who don't know how to MERGE on the highway.
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When nobody's looking, I like to: Hehehe -- CENSORED!
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Our Local Bulletin Board Systems
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Number Five In A Series
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by Mark Maisel
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Name: Ziggy's UnaXess
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Sysop: Ziggy Powers
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Software: UnaXess
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Been Around: 7.5 years
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Baud Rates: 300-1200
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Bulletins: brief explanation of the system seen when you log on
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Conferences: created by users and they vary with use. they die after 3
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months of inactivity
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Computers Supported: any and all who can call
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Files Available: variety of shareware and public domain offerings
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Doors Available: none
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Special Information: the oldest continuously running bbs in Birmingham
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Q. Why did you start your BBS?
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A. To study and communicate with my house. I set up remote control for
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the lights, etc. It also has given me the opportunity to meet new
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people.
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Q. What has been your greatest reward from running your BBS?
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A. Meeting people and exchanging ideas.
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Q. What are your greatest regrets and annoyance associated with running a
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BBS?
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A. The uncompensated expense is my greatest regret. There have been
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some annoyances in the form of bad users. This has for the most part,
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cleared itself up.
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Q. What are your future plans for the BBS?
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A. I really don't have any plans. As long as it keeps running, it will
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remain.
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Q. What is the funniest thing that has happened on your BBS?
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A. Nothing funny comes to mind. I have had some excitement from hackers
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trying to break into the system over the years. They always seem to
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approach it in the spirit of challenge.
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Q. What is your favorite hobby/pastime outside of your BBS and computers
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in general?
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A. I like to do woodworking. Making furniture and clocks has been a good
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hobby for me. I also like to work in my Japanese style garden.
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Q. What do you think your system offers that might cause someone to
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prefer your board over others?
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A. I offer complete anonymity and the crowd is pretty laid back. There
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is almost always some good discussion to be shared.
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Q. Why?
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A. I run the system this way to make things easier for me and the users.
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The folks who call seem to enjoy this. I feel like my responsibility
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is to provide the service and the rest is up the users.
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From the Kitchen
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by Chez Stephan
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With we Alabamians being in the throws of summer, it's time for
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Chez Stephan to get the old grill out and start with some of my
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summer favorites. Most of these will be extremely easy to fix and some
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of them might even taste pretty good. There will not be any burgers
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this time but there will be something for almost everyone. Fasten your
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seat belts, pop a cold one and be prepared to go to grill heaven.
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First off is something so easy anyone can do it.
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We're gonna grill some shrimp.
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3 or 4 pounds of shrimp
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enough skewers to hold the shrimp
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Tony Chachere's powdered Creole Crab Boil or
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Paul Prudhome's Blackened Seafood Spices
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Clean and peel the shrimp. For those of you that are lazy, you can
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buy them already cleaned and peeled. Place the shrimp on the skewers and
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then sprinkle liberally with either of the spices. Grill over high heat
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until done. Brush with butter while they cook. After they are done
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then remove shrimp from skewers and serve on a warm platter. Please
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don't overcook the shrimp. They get rubbery when cooked to long. These
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shrimp are great as munchies while the main meal is cooking or even as a
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main course. They can be served with a melted butter, lemon, and
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tarragon mixture or with a red sauce, or really good with just about
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anything. They are even good with the prepared horseradish and bacon dip
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you find in they dairy section of the grocery store.
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Next were gonna steam some oysters or clams
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These are also too easy
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All the fresh oysters you can eat and then some
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One or two heavy burlap bags
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Some old or very cheap beer
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ALWAYS REMEMBER THAT OYSTERS SHOULD BE EATEN FRESH AND IN FACT THEY
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SHOULD BE EATEN ALIVE WHETHER THEY ARE COOKED OR RAW. Oysters will live
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for about 3 days if they are kept iced down real well. Get a nice hot
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fire going and then soak the burlap bags in beer. Place them on the
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grill ( not the fire, the grill ) and pile the oysters up on top of the
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burlap. Add another can or two of beers and close the top of the grill.
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Check the bag about every 5 minutes or so because you don't want to
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catch the darn thing on fire. When the Oyster shells pop open they're
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done. Serve these with a red sauce or melted butter and some crackers.
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Either give each person a knife ( or if your guest can't be trusted with
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one; as many of Mark's guest are; you'll have to do it yourself ) so
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that they can cut the oyster from the opened shell. These are also good
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as munchies while the main course cooks.
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A Sauce for Ribs and Steaks
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Also good on fish
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1 cup of water
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1/2 cup of white vinegar
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2 teaspoons salt
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1 teaspoon pepper
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2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
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1 clove minced garlic
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1 stick of butter
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Combine all ingredients and bring to a boil. Use to baste meat
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while cooking. Any left over sauce can be sealed in a mason jar and
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stored in the refrigerator. This sauce can be made weeks in advance of
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usage and stored. What I usually do is make a triple recipe and store
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the stuff in mason jars in the fridge until I'm ready to go at it again.
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Grilled Shrimp
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From Captain Anderson's Kitchen
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Make this marinade first.
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1/2 cup olive oil
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1/3 cup of vinegar
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1/2 cup orange juice
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1/4 cup fine chopped onions
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3-4 drops Tabasco
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1 teaspoon salt
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1 teaspoon chili powder
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1/4 teaspoon oregano
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1/4 tablespoon lemon juice
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Clean and peel shrimp ( large ones, 1/2 pound per person served ).
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Let shrimp rest in the marinade for at least 2 hours. Thread them on
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skewers with small mushroom cap between each and grill over slow fire
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for about ten minutes. Baste with marinade while shrimp cook.
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Horseradish Sauce
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Grill your favorite steak and serve on the side
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4 tablespoons of heavy cream
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1 tablespoon vinegar
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3 tablespoons grated horseradish
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salt and paprika
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Whip cream stiff. Mix the other ingredients together and beat
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gradually into cream. This is enough for one serving so make this
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according to the number of people you need to serve at any given time.
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This should be enough to get things started until next issue.
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Anyway I don't want to take up valuable space with a few simple recipes.
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I'm quite sure that most of you would rather get on to the real meat of
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BTN anyway.
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So Ciao for now.
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MESSAGE BOARD
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by Barry Bowden
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JUNE 1989
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S M T W T F S
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June 3 BIPUG --> This months meeting will be at 1:00 PM.
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BAC
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June 16 BEPCUG
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June 11 BCCC
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June 13 CCS
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June 25 BCCC
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June 27 CCS
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BCCC BIPUG
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Birmingham Commodore Computer Club Birmingham IBM-PC Users Group
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POB 59564 Room 535/541 UAB Nutrition
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Birmingham, Al 35259 Science Bldg
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UAB School of Education, Rm 153 First Sunday 3:00 PM
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2nd and 4th Sundays, 2 PM (delayed one week if meeting
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Rusty Hargett 854-5172 falls on a holiday)
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Marty Schulman 967-5883
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Jim Caldwell 870-4729
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Carolyn Daffron 969-1748
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BEPCUG CC-S
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Birmingham East PC Users Group Commodore Club South
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Jefferson State Jr. College Springville Road Library
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RUBY Carson Hall 114 (Meeting) Huffman, Alabama
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3rd Friday of Every Month 2nd and 4th Tuesday (C64/C128)
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7:00PM to 9:00PM 3rd Monday (Amiga)
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Paula Ballard 853-1200,ext 1463 (Work) 7:30 PM to 10:00 PM
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251-6058 (Home) Maurice Lovelady 684-6843
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BAC
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Birmingham Apple Corps
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POB 5542
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Birmingham, Alabama 32555
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Regular meetings - 1st Sunday
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UAB Building #2, Rm 115 at 2PM
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Informal get-together every
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Saturday morning at 8:30AM
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at the Kopper Kettle in
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the Brookwood annex next
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to AC3
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If you belong to or know of a user group that is not listed, please let
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us know by sending E-Mail to me, Barry Bowden, on EzNet.
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Please leave the following information :
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User Group Name
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Meeting Place
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Meeting Time(Day/date,Time)
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Contact Person
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Any Other Important Information
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Known BBS Numbers For The Birmingham Area
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NAME NUMBER BAUD RATES SUPPORTED MODEM TYPE
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America Online Nodes 1-3 323-2016 300, 1200, 2400
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America Online Node 4 251-2344 300, 1200, 2400, 9600 HST
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*American BBS 674-1851 300, 1200, 2400
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Amiga Alliance 631-8367 300, 1200, 2400
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*Byte Me 979-2983 1200, 2400
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*Bus System BBS 595-1627 300, 1200, 2400
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*Channel 8250 744-8546 300, 1200, 2400
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Club Phoenix 942-0252 300, 1200, 2400
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*Crunchy Frog 956-1755 300, 1200, 2400
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D3 Systems BBS 663-2759 300, 1200, 2400
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Duck Pond BBS 822-0956 300, 1200, 2400
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Gizmo's Atari BBS 854-0698 300, 1200
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Fortress BBS 664-9040 300, 1200
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I.S.A. BBS 995-6590 300, 1200, 2400
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Jim's Place 787-5512 300, 1200, 2400
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*Joker's Castle 744-6120 300, 1200, 2400
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LZ Birmingham 870-7770 300, 1200, 2400
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*Magnolia BBS 854-6407 300, 1200, 2400, 9600 HST
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ProSoft Systems BBS 853-8718 300, 1200, 2400
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Psycho's Den 592-2545 300, 1200
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*Role Player's Paradise 631-7654 300, 1200, 2400
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Smitty's BBS 849-7349 300, 1200
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Sparta PCBoard Nodes 1-5 979-0193 300, 1200, 2400, 9600 HST
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Sparta PCBoard Node 6 979-0196 300, 1200, 2400, 9600 Hayes
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Sperry BBS 853-6144 300, 1200, 2400, 9600 Hayes
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*ST BBS 836-9311 300, 1200, 2400
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*The Connection Node 1 854-9074 1200, 2400
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*The Connection Node 2 854-2308 1200, 2400
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*The Outer Limits 969-3262 1200, 2400, 9600 HST
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The Islands BBS 870-7776 300, 1200
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*The Professional's Board 856-0679 300, 1200, 2400
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Twilight Zone 856-3783 300, 1200
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Willie's DYM Node 1 979-1629 300, 1200, 2400
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Willie's DYM Node 2 979-7739 300, 1200, 2400
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Willie's RBBS 979-7743 300, 1200, 2400
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Ziggy Unaxess 991-5696 300, 1200
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Boards with a "*" before their name are members of our local network,
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EzNet, and public messages left in the EzNet Conferences of any of these
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boards will be echoed to all members.
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