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SUBJECT: SILENT BLACK CHOPPERS FILE: UFO3204
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#: 344740 S10/Paranormal Issues
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03-Aug-92 20:23:51
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Sb: #344620-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Rob 70314,3623
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To: Michael McDowell 76207,1247 (X)
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Michael:
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" The newspaper reports never gave Eglin as the source of the flights, and all
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the crashes were listed as civilian. So it was never clear why Eglin would
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send out teams on some and not on others."
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Ah, another attempt to re-write history. At least it is not the government
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doing it this time. I read all of your uploads and do not recall any of the
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above information being mentioned.
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"This was the sort of mistake Balsano made in reading my posts."
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Balsano didn't make a mistake - neither did Balsamo. But thanks for
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clarifying
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your statements.
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And you are right - that does sound very strange. I wonder if the NTSA is
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very happy about the possibility of these teams tampering with crash site
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evidence. I also wonder what happens to all of those experimental aircraft
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once they are through with them.
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Rob...
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There are 2 Replies.
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Read action !ns
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#: 344851 S10/Paranormal Issues
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03-Aug-92 22:17:51
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Sb: #344740-Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Michael McDowell 76207,1247
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To: Rob 70314,3623 (X)
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I am not re-writing history. I posted enough information, in my opinion, to
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make a point: it is strange. The information was misinterpreted, because I
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misjudged the amount of information necessary to show that point. For
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instance, when I said that the flights were not out of Eglin, I did not think
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to say: local newspaper reports always give someplace other than Eglin as the
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origin of these wrecked civilian planes. What you say is re-writing history is
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actually my having source material for something that I claimed. I was able to
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clarify the matter, I hope.
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#: 344852 S10/Paranormal Issues
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03-Aug-92 22:17:58
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Sb: #344740-Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Michael McDowell 76207,1247
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To: Rob 70314,3623 (X)
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Oh. And the NTSA does not investigate every flight that crashes, I don't
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believe. Occasionally it is said that someone will investigate from there, but
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I have never seen a follow-up. (That doesn't mean they didn't come, and didn't
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do a thorough investigation. It means that I have never seen a follow-up.
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Saying that I have never seen a follow-up does not imply that I think that the
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NTSA is part of a conspiracy with high-ups at Eglin Field; it means that I
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have never read in the local paper a report of a follow-up by the NTSA on one
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of these crashes. This disclaimer is not meant solely or primarily for you, it
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is here merely to emphasize that I do not place an interpretation on the lack
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of report on an NTSA follow-up. I note it because it might be an interesting
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bit of information for someone else.)
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#: 345019 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 01:06:18
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Sb: #344620-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Ron Holtz 71035,3440
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To: Michael McDowell 76207,1247 (X)
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Just an unsubstantiated, but non-sinister explanation of why Eglin might
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respond to some civilian air crashes and not others: Perhaps the civilian
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emergency services ask for help sometimes ?
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There is 1 Reply.
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#: 345122 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 04:13:05
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Sb: #345019-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Michael McDowell 76207,1247
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To: Ron Holtz 71035,3440 (X)
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If that had been stated in the papers, that help was requested, then I
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certainly would never have formed the opinion that their presence was strange.
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It may be that help was requested but that fact was never noted in the paper
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-- but I don't think that is the case, since it is always noted when help is
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called for from Eglin to transport accident victims. Also, if help had been
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asked for, I don't think the newspaper stories would carry the impression of
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there being a kind of race between Eglin and locals to get to the site first.
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There was also an inexplicable there in the past year or so, of a farmer who
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had been driving his tractor along the road. I don't want to say what was
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strange about it until I recover the notice of the death itself. The
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strangeness had to do with where he ended up, where the tractor ended up, the
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wounds/bruises on his body, and the apparent cause of death -- all of which
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did not add up in a major way. (This is not to suggest that he was a
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conspiracy victim, or that he was killed by something or someone from Eglin,
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only that it was a death that made no logical sense to me. Nor to officials,
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nor to the writer of the notice. It did not seem a natural death, but it
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didn't seem murder either. It seemed anomalous, like the cattle mutilations
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farther north in the state.)
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#: 345152 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 08:27:06
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Sb: #345122-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Ron Holtz 71035,3440
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To: Michael McDowell 76207,1247 (X)
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Well, it was just a thought. Civilian requests for help from Eglin would have
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gone a long way towards explaining things, so I thought someone should at
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least bring it up.
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I'm a little confused over what exactly leads to the impression that there's a
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"race" to the crash sites. It would seem that whether there were one emergency
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team or two, the nature of emergency response is to get to the scene as
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quickly as possible. I'm not sure how one would distinquish between a scenario
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in which two emergency teams were independently hurrying to the same place,
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and a scenario in which they were racing against each other to get there.
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Excuse me, again, for challenging your interpretation, but since I have not
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read those reports myself, I'm just a little puzzled. It would be most helpful
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if you could cite the newspaper article references for several of these cases.
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I might then be able to examine the data first hand, rather than continuing to
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distract you from more important debates you have going.
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#: 345186 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 10:07:30
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Sb: #345152-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Michael McDowell 76207,1247
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To: Ron Holtz 71035,3440 (X)
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No, your questions are very helpful I think. The question of its being a race
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is, for instance, humorous descriptions of how the Eglin team was forced to
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wade shoulder-high leech-infested creek water because they thought that was
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the quickest way, but were distressed to find that the locals had got there
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first, and got there dry.
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My real point is that there is something here that is out of kilter -- not
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enormously out of kilter, just interestingly anomalous. (I realize now I can't
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assume that people realize that we are talking about an area that is quite
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near Gulf Breeze -- close enough that we would drive there for pizza on a
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school night. Though at that time, there wasn't much more at Gulf Breeze; it
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was a somewhat ridiculously undersubscribed housing development that nobody
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thought would take.)
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#: 345218 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 11:34:52
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Sb: #345186-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Ron Holtz 71035,3440
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To: Michael McDowell 76207,1247 (X)
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Yes. Gulf Breeze is across the bay from Pensacola. There's several military
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bases along the coast in that area, I believe, although Eglin is by far the
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largest and most mysterious. A freind of mine worked there for a number of
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years in the early '80s, living at Fort Walton Beach. Suffice it to say that
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there's plenty of weird, mysterious stuff going on at and around Eglin whether
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aliens are involved or not.
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#: 345289 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 14:54:22
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Sb: #345218-#Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Michael McDowell 76207,1247
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To: Ron Holtz 71035,3440 (X)
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As I said, I grew up near there. My father lived a few miles from the base, my
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brother and sister-in-law trained there, and I've a military uncle who just
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retired to Gulf Breeze. It is very large. It is also not considered at all
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mysterious by those in the area.
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#: 345309 S10/Paranormal Issues
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04-Aug-92 16:07:53
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Sb: #345289-Silent Black Choppers
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Fm: Ron Holtz 71035,3440
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To: Michael McDowell 76207,1247 (X)
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Sorry, now I'm confused again.
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In your immediately previous messages you indicated (I thought) that the
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response of Eglin to certain air crashes, and the death of a local farmer,
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were mysterious.
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So, are there or aren't there mysterious things happening around Eglin ?
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