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CBBS(R) 4.0.3b
07/10/89 21:46:34
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?n;ward;christensen;odraw;;fullc;piss
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You are caller 206769; next msg =42072; 351 active msgs.
Prev. call 07/08/89 @ 22:12, next msg was 42039
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>Function:?dir c:log;dir c:killed;dir summary;type-30 log,ward c;or;*;short
LOG. 13
KILLED. 10
SUMMARY. 24
07/08/89,22:12:10,206717,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#42039,7
07/08/89,23:02:34,206718,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,2
07/08/89,23:41:17,206719,1,JERALD DAWSON,Wauconda/ Il,3
07/08/89,23:58:40,206720,1,JIM CEMPEL,Chicago/Illinois,10
07/09/89,00:13:17,206721,1,JIM CEMPEL,,3
07/09/89,00:31:06,206722,2,TOD CAMPBELL,,3
07/09/89,01:05:04,206723,1,EDWARD BECKMAN,HAZEL CREST/IL,5
07/09/89,03:36:53,206724,1,DENNIS LEONG,,4
07/09/89,05:05:49,206725,1,STEVE BOGOLUB,,2
07/09/89,06:54:30,206726,2,BILL COLEMAN,,3
07/09/89,07:19:25,206727,2,TOM KOWALCZYK,,2
07/09/89,07:30:13,206728,3,ALEX ZELL,,
07/09/89,07:37:15,206729,3,MURRAY ARNOW,,3
07/09/89,09:16:16,206730,2,JERRY WOLF,ARLINGTON HGTS/ IL,2
]H
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JERRY WOLF,
07/09/89,12:34:14,206731,2,JOHN RICKENS,VICTORVILLE/CALIF,3
07/09/89,13:40:19,206732,1,BOB SULLIVAN,,
E#42040,
E#42041,16
07/09/89,13:59:40,206733,1,JEAN BARBER,Riverwoods/ IL,24
]Regrettably, I have been away so long that I have forgotten how to
use your board. There seem to be changes. I hope they are friendly
to new users. And Hi E. Zoll.
JEAN BARBER,
07/09/89,14:25:53,206734,1,DONNIE STUHLMAN,,
E#42042,
E#42043,
E#42044,15
07/09/89,15:09:54,206735,2,ED FOSTER,,5
07/09/89,15:37:15,206736,2,ED FOSTER,,3
07/09/89,17:01:19,206737,2,MIKE CLINE,Chicago/ IL,3
07/09/89,20:17:55,206738,1,CHARLIE KESTNER,,3
07/09/89,20:43:33,206739,3,MICHAEL PASTORELLI,MT.PROSPECT/ IL,
07/09/89,20:51:25,206740,1,BILL WODARCZYK,Chicago Il.,
E#42045,11
07/09/89,21:52:08,206741,2,STEVE COOK,,1
07/09/89,22:11:44,206742,1,MICHAEL BLAKE,,6
07/09/89,22:20:09,206743,1,KATHLEEN RAMBO,Aurora/IL,3
07/09/89,23:24:17,206744,1,CHRIS SMITH,elkhart/Indiana,
]CHAT: This bbs,3
07/10/89,00:47:39,206745,2,BILL MATTSON,,
07/10/89,01:30:03,206746,2,ERIC BOHLMAN,,
E#42046,8
07/10/89,02:05:09,206747,2,BILL MATTSON,,2
07/10/89,05:29:21,206748,2,PETE JONES,,1
07/10/89,06:28:52,206749,2,MIKE SANDMAN,,4
07/10/89,07:16:44,206750,1,JIM FLANAGAN,,6
07/10/89,07:48:47,206751,3,ALEX ZELL,,
E#42047,
07/10/89,11:00:24,206752,2,JACK HOMA,,3
07/10/89,11:54:09,206753,1,JEAN BARBER,,
E#42048,61
07/10/89,12:52:14,206754,2,BRENT JONES,,1
07/10/89,12:58:07,206755,1,BRENT JONES,,
E#42049,23
07/10/89,13:53:34,206756,2,DENNIS STAHL,,5
07/10/89,14:23:46,206757,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
E#42050,
E#42051,
E#42052,
07/10/89,14:42:21,206758,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
]Chaz: I picked up the BBS list and reformatted it (went from 29K to
19K) but the line noise is too bad for me to attempt an upload - I'd
just be afraid of too many typos. Not sure what to do. I think the
line noise is partly due to the high temperature.
__I may try u/ling a few msgs anyway...
WARD CHRISTENSEN,
E#42053,
E#42054,
E#42055,
E#42056,
E#42057,
E#42058,
E#42059,
E#42060,
E#42061,
E#42062,
E#42063,
E#42064,
E#42065,
E#42066,
E#42067,
E#42068,
E#42069,
E#42070,
E#42071,
07/10/89,15:00:26,206759,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,0
07/10/89,15:06:57,206760,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
07/10/89,15:15:42,206761,X,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,1
]My sister-in-law's father died, will be going back to WI for Tues
and Wed, mebbe Thurs.
WARD CHRISTENSEN,
07/10/89,17:16:56,206762,1,RICHARD GOZDAL,,6
07/10/89,19:01:34,206763,2,PHIL JERN,,1
07/10/89,19:14:14,206764,1,JEAN BARBER,,
]K,42047,JEAN BARBER, 5
07/10/89,21:07:29,206765,1,JACK SMITH,EVANSTON/IL,4
07/10/89,21:12:50,206766,2,GREG SMITH,,1
07/10/89,21:21:21,206767,1,JACK SMITH,,4
07/10/89,21:23:11,206768,2,STEVE COOK,,0
07/10/89,21:46:37,206769,2,WARD CHRISTENSEN,,
42039 07/08/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => COLIN SCHROEDER: "R/WELCOME BACK"
42040 07/09/89 BOB SULLIVAN => ALL: "COMPUTER BAKES BREAD"
42041 07/09/89 BOB SULLIVAN => ALL: "BBS NUMBERS"
42042 07/09/89 DONNIE STUHLMAN => GRANT KILLEY: "R/CONSULTING FIRM WANTED"
42043 07/09/89 DONNIE STUHLMAN => ALL: "WARNING ABOUT COMPUTER STORE"
42044 07/09/89 DONNIE STUHLMAN => ALL: "NEW POSITION NEEDED"
42045 07/09/89 BILL WODARCZYK => ALL: "MODEMS"
42046 07/10/89 ERIC BOHLMAN => BILL WODARCZYK: "R/MODEMS"
42047 07/10/89 ALEX ZELL => JEAN BARBER: "RETURN OF"
42048 07/10/89 JEAN BARBER => JAMES SCHMIDT: "R/SUPERCALC 5 OPINION(S)"
42049 07/10/89 BRENT JONES => WARD: "W. SUBURBS USER GROUP?"
42050 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BRENT JONES: "R/W. SUBURBS USER GROUP?"
42051 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => BILL WODARCZYK: "R/MODEMS"
42052 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ERIC BOHLMAN: "R/MODEMS"
42053 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "CHICAGO AREA BBS LIST"
42054 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS ARL. - BERWYN"
42055 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS BLUE I-CHICAGO"
42056 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS CHICAGO"
42057 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS CHICAGO-DOWNERS"
42058 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS DUNDEEE-GENEVA"
42059 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS GLEN E.-LINCOLNWOOD"
42060 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS LIND.-OAK LAWN"
42061 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS OAKPARK-SCHAUM."
42062 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS SKOKIE-ZION"
42063 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS NEW #S"
42064 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS NEW #S <CONT>"
42065 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS - DEAD LIST?"
42066 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS: LEGEND"
42067X 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "(CONT'D)"
42068 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS LIST CONT'D"
42069 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS - SYSTEM TYPES"
42070 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "BBS TYPES <CONT'D>"
42071 07/10/89 WARD CHRISTENSEN => ALL: "STILLWATERS BBS LIST"
- End of summary -
Retrieving flagged msgs: C skips, K aborts.
Msg 42039 is 08 line(s) on 07/08/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to COLIN SCHROEDER re: R/WELCOME BACK
Nulls is a msg related to seeing an N or ^N while CBBS types - it is a quick
way to get 'em, then, to make sure you REALLY wanted 'em (since on most
terminal programs they are invisible BUT cause slower transmission) I ask.
No big deal. Musta been line noise. We're back on an old Courier external
2400 awaiting the return of the 9600 HSTs.
The board was down for a week or so due to the modem glitch, followed by
the fact that when turned off for a few days, the hard drive refused to
start up again, sigh.
Msg 42040 is 01 line(s) on 07/09/89 from BOB SULLIVAN
to ALL re: COMPUTER BAKES BREAD
I have tried the DAK AUTO BAKERY, and it works great.
Msg 42041 is 03 line(s) on 07/09/89 from BOB SULLIVAN
to ALL re: BBS NUMBERS
Does anybody have the BBS numbers of the National Science Foundation, US Naval
Observatory, or the Library of Congress? Also, does anybody know the numbers
of any other national special interest BBS?
Msg 42042 is 05 line(s) on 07/09/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN
to GRANT KILLEY re: R/CONSULTING FIRM WANTED
If you are still looking for a consultant I may be of help.
Previously I was the in-house consultant for computer store.
I am an expert in Turbo Pascal, have several published programs
and learn almost anything needed for microcomputers. Give me a
call to see if we can help each other. 743-4241.
Msg 42043 is 22 line(s) on 07/09/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN
to ALL re: WARNING ABOUT COMPUTER STORE
In selecting a microcomputer vendor one should be very careful
about how they treat both their customers and staff. DOS
Computer Centers of Park Ridge and Niles are in serious financial
staights. All their vendors have them on credit hold. It is
difficult for them to deliver product. All their good service
and support staff have left for greener pastures. They have a
bare bones sales staff that probably does have the time to take
care of you. They treat their staff poorly, keeping them in the
dark about the real problems. The sales staff is forced to
withold the truth from customers.
I am a highly skilled microcomputer specialist now looking for
a new job. I've been using micros for over eleven years. I
have masters and bachelors degrees from Columbia University
(New York City). My specialties are desktop publishing, infor-
mation flow, word processing, and problem solving.
If you want to know the "emes" leave a message here. If you
know of a job or just want to chat about the industry give me a
call at 743-4241.
Msg 42044 is 01 line(s) on 07/09/89 from DONNIE STUHLMAN
to ALL re: NEW POSITION NEEDED
I am looking for a new job. Please see message 42043.
Msg 42045 is 08 line(s) on 07/09/89 from BILL WODARCZYK
to ALL re: MODEMS
I have trouble with my modem(s). I wonder if anyone can tell me what to do
I have a 2400 baud from Computer Direct and a 9600 Racal-Vadic from work
Neither one works over 1200 baud more than once or twice. The 9600 works
fine when I use it with the Televidio dumb terminal connected to a main}if
frame 4381. I even have trouble at 1200 at times. MatX}Bell says I can get
a ~"i}ei>d}olpnditioned line{_ but it will cost me. What should
I do? I have gotten something called 'NONOISE' from ather board and
it would require surg}i{_eory on thphone line.
Msg 42046 is 15 line(s) on 07/10/89 from ERIC BOHLMAN
to BILL WODARCZYK re: R/MODEMS
The first thing to do is to establish whether the problem is in your phone
line or in your modems. There are two ways to do that: 1) borrow a modem
(preferably from a different vendor than the ones you have), connect it to
your line, and see what performance you get 2) (possibly easier) take your
modems over to someone else's line and try them out.
If the line is the problem, check whether there's enough noise to inter-
fere with voice communications. If there is, the phone company will have
to fix it (they AREN'T obligated to fix problems that affect data only
unless you're paying extra for what amounts to a guarantee that they will).
You might check with vendors to see if they have some line noise filters.
Come to think of it, I have one lying around somewhere; I picked it up at a
hamfest.
Finally, don't judge your modems by their performance on connects to this BBS.
Right now it's running on a borrowed modem and has unusually severe line
noise, which should go away once Ward gets his regular modem fixed.
Msg 42047 is 02 line(s) on 07/10/89 from ALEX ZELL
to JEAN BARBER re: RETURN OF
Nice to see you back. Most of the changes are transparent and should not
affect you. You do, of course, remember "h;keywords".
Msg 42048 is 18 line(s) on 07/10/89 from JEAN BARBER
to JAMES SCHMIDT re: R/SUPERCALC 5 OPINION(S)
There is a product called TWIN from Mosaic Software, Inc. 1972 Massachusetts
Ave. Cambridge, MA 02140 which seems to be disk based and looks, tastes and
acts like lotus, except for some menu handling. I like their drop down
because it looks like the Wordstar drop down. They put it on two disks for
my portable at my request. I have LOTUS on my hard drive. So far
neither me nor my accountant (he uses LOTUS exclusively) that did not work
alike. He is quite apt at writing MACROS. OOps, I left out the verb found
in previous sentence. But, I think you will get the message. By the way
they have an integrated package for only a few dollars more with databases,
wordprocessors, etc. For my purposes I did not need so did not buy it.
Local software houses can get it for you. But they seem to be willing to
sell direct, also. Their phone 617-491-2434. Their version 3 came out
before LOTUS. I am using version 2 in Lotus and Advantage in TWIN.
Msg 42049 is 09 line(s) on 07/10/89 from BRENT JONES
to WARD re: W. SUBURBS USER GROUP?
Thanks for your good reply on CIS about printing on plastic.
I think that I am going to get a DeskJet and use the IBM
plastic you mentioned. Could you find the product name and number
for me? Also what PC users groups in the Chicago suburbs would you
suggest or recommend? I live in Wheaton (missionary on furlough from
Pakistan.) My phone is 665-4462 and my CIS # 71301,1742
Thanks. Brent Jones
Msg 42050 is 20 line(s) on 07/10/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to BRENT JONES re: R/W. SUBURBS USER GROUP?
Gee, I don't know about west suburban user groups. I live in the far
south suburbs, and "far west" (Wheaton, Schaumburg, etc) are like in
another state for me.
The PC club I am most involved in meets at the University of Chicago,
59th St. and almost the lake, so you can see why I like that one.
There's also CACHE, the oldest club in Chicago, which meets sort of
"Central" - DeVry, at about Belmont and Western (actually on Campbell
one block west), "3300 N. Campbell, approx 2500 west". They have a BBS,
not sure if it is members-only. 470-1691.
There is also a (I think larger) club in the Chicago area, which
probably has "chapters" in various areas - I remember hearing of one in
Harvey (far south where I am) but I'm not sure where to get you started
on finding that one, since I'm not directly involved in it, except when
asked to speak a few years ago. They tend to meet in the evening after
work downtown, dunno about the "chapters". Hopefully someone else will
answer your msg.
To find the info on that plastic, call IBM direct 1-800-IBM-2468 and
ask for their plotter transparencies. (Gad, the line noise is awful
today, I'm constantly editing out glitches! Must be the heat, and the
fact that our MNP (error correcting) modem is on the fritz).
Msg 42051 is 13 line(s) on 07/10/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to BILL WODARCZYK re: R/MODEMS
Does 300 baud work OK? Sounds just like you have a noisy line. If you
can't find the noise on a VOICE call then the phone company won't fix
it for you. I know of ONE case where there was a bad "trunk" line between
my area (far south) and CBBS (near north) and they WERE willing to find
it because it went "tic.tic.tic" on a VOICE call. If your voice calls
are noisy, then report it and forget about the modem - THEN try the modem
again.
Your only other possibility is, if the line isn't TOO bad, to go to an
error correctinng modem and only call into systems that support error
correction (ARQ or MNP) (ARQ is US Robotics name for MNP), such as
this board (though our error correcting modem died and is in for service)
or others. That may slow down things, but short of a disconnect, you
stop getting line noise.
Msg 42052 is 05 line(s) on 07/10/89 from WARD CHRISTENSEN
to ERIC BOHLMAN re: R/MODEMS
Eric, could you put a couple spaces at the front of a new paragraph?
Look at your msg 42046 - your very vaulable info is slightly less readable
due to being just blocks of lines. Don't put in blank lines - that
just spreads out the msg - but a couple space indent should work fine.
Thanks for your helpful participation in CBBS!