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13:56:38 2/17/1988
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The Ancient Secret Meaning of some of the extended
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ASCII characters, and beyond.
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Researched by Henry J. Franzoni III
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You must be able to display all 256 characters in the
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IBM PC extended ASCII symbol set to read this text.
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(Ctrl-QG in Sidekick, Graphics mode in MS Word, the
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TYPE command, etc.)
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Below is a brief attempt to demonstrate a strange connection
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between the IBM PC symbol system and the hidden metaphorical secrets
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of the early Greek Cabalists and Christian Gnostics. Perhaps Hebrew
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Cabalists, Masons and other groups used similar methods. If this
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subject matter offends you please stop reading this file
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and erase it. If this sort of subject matter strikes you as
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far-fetched, hey, give it a chance, read a little further
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before you dismiss it completely. I have tried to present
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this information with a minimum of personal interpretation.
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The interesting examples below speak for themselves, I think.
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I do have a viewpoint that colors my perceptions though.
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I tend to look at computers as tools to manipulate symbol
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systems. Words, numbers, pictures,... a computer looks
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at these things as one and the same thing, symbols. Different
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languages are different symbol systems for the computer to
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manipulate and display. Humans can manipulate
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all kinds of symbols easily with a computer and display them
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on the screen or print them on paper. I've always been
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interested in the story behind the symbol systems we use,
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and what hidden meaning, if any, existed for the creators
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of the symbol systems we use. You might enjoy this. Please
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do not abuse this information. I am interested in sharing
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this information with reasonable, responsible people, not fanatics.
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If any of this disturbs your personal system of beliefs, why
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then, just throw it away and ignore it, this IS America.
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I claim no responsiblity for any damages arising from the use
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of this knowledge. I trust you use it wisely.
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Immediately below is a mapping between the Greek alphabet
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and a number cipher rumoured to be a Cabalist number code.
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When there are two or more entries in the Greek Alphabet
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Symbol column, the first is the upper case form and the second is
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the lower case form. In the case of sigma, the extra form
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is for when sigma is the last letter in a word. In the word/number
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examples below the list, the upper case is used in a few places
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it shouldn't be because the PC symbol set only had the uppercase
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version of the Greek letter. The code/cipher number which
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corresponds to each Greek letter is in the fifth column from the left.
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There is no symbol for the sixth Greek letter, which had the sound
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of "st". This symbol was discontinued in ancient times. I do not
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know why there is no symbol for 90, it might be the same reason
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as for 6. Maybe you know?
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Greek English PC ASCII Sound Greek Cabalist Place in
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Alphabet Name for Decimal Made by Number Modern
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Symbol Greek Code Greek Code Value Greek
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Symbol Number(s) Letter (Gematria) Alphabet
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A à alpha 65, 224 a 1 1
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B á beta 66, 225 b 2 2
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â gamma 226 g(n) 3 3
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ë delta 235 d 4 4
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E î epsilon 69, 238 e 5 5
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(symbol obsolete in ancient times) st 6-------------------------
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Z zŠta 90 z 7 6
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H ï Šta 72, 239 Š 8 7
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é thŠta 233 th 9 8
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I i iota 73, 105 i 10 9
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K k kappa 75, 107 k 20 10
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^ lambda 94 l 30 11
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M æ mu 77, 230 m 40 12
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N v nu 78, 118 n 50 13
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ð xi 240 x 60 14
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O o omicron 79, 111 o 70 15
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ã pi 227 p 80 16
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---------------(unknown reason(s) for 90 not appearing in alphabet list)
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P rh• 80 r(rh) 100 17
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ä å ‡ sigma 228, 229, 135 s 200 18
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T tau 84 t 300 19
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ç upsilon 231 u 400 20
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è í phi 232, 237 ph 500 21
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X x khi 88 kh 600 22
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� psi 157 ps 700 23
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ê •mega 234 • 800 24
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What good is it? Well below are some examples of the
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early usage of this code. The Greek word is first followed by
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the English translation. Each letter in each word is converted
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into its numerical equivalent, and then the word is summed, for
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your personal edification and pleasure. Certain words and
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phrases are then summed and compared with each other. The
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Greek quotations are from the original Greek New Testament.
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GREEK ENGLISH GREEK ENGLISH
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Iïåoç‡ = 'Jesus' MàPiàæ = 'Mary'
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I 10 M 40
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ï 8 à 1
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å 200 P 100
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o 70 i 10
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ç 400 à 1
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‡ 200 + æ 40 +
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888 192
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Let's add these two totals together.
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888 'Jesus'
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+ 192 'Mary'
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1080
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GREEK ENGLISH GREEK ENGLISH
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To àâiov ãvîçæà = 'The Holy Spirit' To âàiov ãvîçæà = 'The spirit of
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the earth'
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T 300 T 300
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o 70 o 70
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à 1 â 3
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â 3 à 1
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i 10 i 10
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o 70 o 70
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v 50 v 50
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ã 80 ã 80
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v 50 v 50
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î 5 î 5
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ç 400 ç 400
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æ 40 æ 40
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à 1 + à 1 +
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1080 1080
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ãïâï åoíià‡ = 'fountain of wisdom' ï TàPTàPo‡ = 'Tartaros, the abyss'
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ã 80 ï 8
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ï 8 T 300
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â 3 à 1
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ï 8 P 100
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å 200 T 300
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o 70 à 1
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í 500 P 100
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i 10 o 70
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à 1 ‡ 200 +
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‡ 200 + -------
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------- 1080
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1080
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KokçTo‡ = 'Cocytos', a God of the abyss.
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K 20
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o 70
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k 20
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ç 400
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T 300
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o 70
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‡ 200 +
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1080
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ï àáçååo‡ = 'the abyss'
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ï 8
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à 1
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á 2
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ç 400
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å 200
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å 200
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o 70
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‡ 200 +
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1081
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TîiTàv = 'Teitan', a solar deity A 6 X 6 MAGIC SQUARE OF THE SUN
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T 300 6 32 3 34 35 1
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î 5 7 11 27 28 8 30
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i 10 19 14 16 15 23 24
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T 300 18 20 22 21 17 13
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à 1 25 29 10 9 26 12
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v 50 + 36 5 33 4 2 31
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666 TOTAL ALONG ANY LINE = 111
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TOTAL FOR ALL NUMBERS = 666
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And we might remember from Revelation 13:
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'Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count
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the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man;
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and his number is Six hundred threescore and six'
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Let's add the 666 and 1080 together.
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1080
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+ 666
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1746
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Metaphorically speaking, it seems we've added Teitan and the Sun to
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the spirit of the earth, the Holy Spirit, (the sum of Jesus and
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Mary), the fountain of wisdom, and the abyss.
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Kokko‡ åivàãîê‡ = 'a grain of mustard seed'
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K 20
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o 70
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k 20
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k 20
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o 70
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‡ 200
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å 200
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i 10
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v 50
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à 1
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ã 80
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î 5
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ê 800
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‡ 200 +
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1746
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Remember this from Mark IV, 31-32?
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'It is like a grain of mustard seed, which when it is sown
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in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
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But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than
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all the herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the
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fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.' 'But without
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a parable spake he not unto them; and when they were alone,
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he expounded all things to his disciples'
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To ãvîçæà koåæoç = 'the Spirit of the World'
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T 300
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o 70
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ã 80
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v 50
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î 5
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ç 400
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æ 40
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à 1
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k 20
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o 70
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å 200
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æ 40
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o 70
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ç 400 +
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1746
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ï ëoðà Toç éîoç IåPàï^ = 'the Glory of the God of Israel'
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ï 8
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ë 4
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o 70
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ð 60
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à 1
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T 300
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o 70
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ç 400
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é 9
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î 5
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o 70
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ç 400
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I 10
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å 200
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P 100
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à 1
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ï 8
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^ 30 +
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1746
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An interesting total is: 2664 = (666 x 4) = (888 x 3) = (37 x 72) =
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(36 x 74) = (111 x 24) = (18 x 148). Below are some phrases that
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add up to this number.
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Iïåoç‡ kài oi ëêëîkà àãåoTo^oi = 'Jesus and the Twelve Apostles'
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I 10
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ï 8
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å 200
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o 70
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ç 400
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‡ 200
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k 20
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à 1
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i 10
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o 70
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i 10
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ë 4
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ê 800
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ë 4
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î 5
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k 20
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à 1
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à 1
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ã 80
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å 200
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o 70
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T 300
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o 70
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^ 30
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o 70
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i 10 +
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2664
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ï kiáêTo‡ Toç éîoç = 'The Ark of God'
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ï 8
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k 20
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i 10
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á 2
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ê 800
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T 300
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o 70
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‡ 200
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T 300
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o 70
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ç 400
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é 9
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î 5
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o 70
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ç 400 +
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2664
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stàçPo‡ = 'cross' (This uses "st" for the missing sixth letter
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for the Greek word "stauros", rather than
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adding "s" and "t" separately. If one does
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st 6 the total for this word is 1271. å = 200
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à 1 and T = 300)
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ç 400
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P 100
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o 70
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‡ 200 +
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777
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AáPàðà‡ = 'Abraxas', God of the 365 days of the solar year.
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This was a Gnostic sect Deity and a Santana album.
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A = 1
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á = 2
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P = 100
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à = 1
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ð = 60
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à = 1
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‡ = 200 +
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365
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Makes you kind of wonder about the Santana album.
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AáPàåàëàáPà = 'Abracadabra' is probably derived from Abraxas,
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and is an old Gnostic word held to have supernatural
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powers to ward off disease and disaster.
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but two characteristic sums of the word
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are 413 and 2576. I don't know any other phrases with
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these totals. The pyramid arrangement is
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traditional.
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1+2+100+1+200+1+4+1+2+100+1 = 413 abracadabra
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1+2+100+1+200+1+4+1+2+100 = 412 abracadabr
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1+2+100+1+200+1+4+1+2 = 312 abracadab
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1+2+100+1+200+1+4+1 = 310 abracada
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1+2+100+1+200+1+4 = 309 abracad
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1+2+100+1+200+1 = 305 abraca
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1+2+100+1+200 = 304 abrac
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1+2+100+1 = 104 abra
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1+2+100 = 103 abr
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1+2 = 3 ab
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1 = 1 + a
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2576
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2576 = (23 x 7 x 4ý) = (23 x 112) {Remember that (24 x 111) = 2664}
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2664 - 2576 = 88
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Now another interesting sum is 831.
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ãçPàæi‡ = 'pyramid'
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ã 80
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ç 400
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P 100
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à 1
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æ 40
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i 10
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‡ 200 +
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831
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íà^^o‡ = 'phallus'
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í 500
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à 1
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^ 30
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^ 30
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o 70
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‡ 200 +
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831
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I suppose these two pointy objects are interchangable.
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I haven't found any other sums of 831. Another interesting
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number is 2080.
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To îvTîxvov ãçP = 'the artificers fire' = 2080 =
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(300+70+5+50+300+5+600+50+70+50+80+400+100)
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Which Prometheus stole from the Gods.
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o ãPêToToko‡ = 'the first born' = 2080 =
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(70+80+100+800+300+70+300+70+20+70+200)
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This is an epithet of Christ in Revelation i, 5.
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íê‡ = 'light' = 1500 AN 8 X 8 MAGIC SQUARE OF MERCURY
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ãçP = 'fire' = 580 + 8 58 59 5 4 62 63 1
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--------------------- 49 15 14 52 53 11 10 56
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light + fire = 2080 41 23 22 44 45 19 18 48
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32 34 35 29 28 38 39 25
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îPæï‡ = 'Hermes' = 353 40 26 27 37 36 30 31 33
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17 47 46 20 21 43 42 24
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ï oëo‡ = 'the way' = 352 9 55 54 12 13 51 50 16
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64 2 3 61 60 6 7 57
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TOTAL ALONG ANY LINE = 260
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TOTAL FOR ALL NUMBERS = 2080
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Hermes was identified with the Roman God Mercury. Both were
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the messengers for the other Gods, and were themselves the Gods
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of commerce, travel, and thievery. The magic square of Mercury
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is traditional. By the way, 352 x 9 = 3168.
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KçPio‡ Iïåoç‡ XPiåTo‡ = 'The Lord Jesus Christ' = 3168 =
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(20+400+100+10+70+200+10+8+200+70+400+200+600+100+10+200+300+70+200)
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The internal consistancy of the relationships between
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the examples, both metaphorically and numerically, makes me
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personally lean towards the thought that someone purposefully
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designed this alternate numerical interpretation, and named these
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things accordingly. If you come to think this also, you may
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wonder who did it? Well, maybe nobody at all, one interpretation
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is that the letters also served as numbers in the old languages,
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(Hebrew, Greek, Arabic), and this may have been common everyday
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knowledge. Everyone may have looked at each word as a
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"number and/or a word", to use the modern definitions of these
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things. However, somebody may have named these things in this
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way, and here are some educated guesses as to who.
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Perhaps it was the unknown founders of Christianity
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who preceeded the Founding Fathers of the Christian Church.
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St. Irenaeus of the second century A.D. was one of the early
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Founding Fathers of the Christian Church who was a bitter
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opponent of the Gnostic sect. He calls this practice
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inherited from pagan philosophers "arithmomancy", The
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interpretation of divine names and principles in
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numeric terms. He was said to have been instructed by
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Gnostics before becoming the Bishop of Lyons, and
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quoted and parodied Gnostic doctrines, discrediting them.
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It is said early Gnostics valued inquiry into spiritual truth
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above faith, thought salvation attainable only by those few whose
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faith enabled them to transcend matter, and viewed Christ as
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non-corporeal.
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Some early Masons, Sumarians, and Muslims may have encoded
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information in their texts, I'm not sure. I think the evidence
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does support the notion that early Hebrews did encode, and
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earlier than their Greek counterparts. Hippolytus in the
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second century A.D., said that the "Celts honour them (The Greeks)
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as prophets and seers because they foretell matters by the
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ciphers and numbers according to the Pythagorian skill...
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The Druids also practice the magic arts." Egyptians, Persians,
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Indian Brahmins, and the Chaldeans of Assyria may have also
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practiced these arts. Clement of Alexandria wrote that the
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Pythagorians took there philosophy from "the Gauls and other
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barbarians." "Gauls" was Julius Caesars' name for the Celts.
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The Phoenicians may have been in on the beginning as well,
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when around 1000 B.C. they started to use graphic signs that
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the Greeks later borrowed and modified, (around 900 B.C.)
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for their own alphabet. I don't know if the Phoenicians used
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the same code, but here is an example of Hebrew Cabalist writing.
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In Hebrew, the Tetragrammaton, the ineffable, unpronouncable
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name of God is transliterated "YHWH" or "JHWH" and is pronounced
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"Yahweh" or "Jehovah". The four Hebrew letters used as a symbol
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or substitute for the ineffable name of God, have names in English.
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Using these English nouns rather than the Hebrew symbols, which is the
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best we can do with the PC symbol set, the ineffable name of God
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looks like this:
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hŠ waw hŠ yodh
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This is read from left to right, with yodh having a "Y" sound,
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hŠ having a "H" sound, and waw having a "W" sound.
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We will use the same Cabalist code as in the Greek alphabet,
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but we don't have to leave any letters out as we did with
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the Greek alphabet.
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Bear with me and look at the Hebrew alphabet mapping below:
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Hebrew Hebrew Position Sound
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Alphabet Cabalist In Made by
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Symbol Code Alphabet Letter
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Name Value
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'aleph 1 1 '
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bŠth 2 2 b (bh)
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gimel 3 3 g (gh)
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d…leth 4 4 d (dh)
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hŠ 5 5 h
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waw 6 6 w
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zayin 7 7 z
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heth 8 8 b
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teth 9 9 t
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yodh 10 10 y
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k…ph 20 11 k (kh)
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l…medh 30 12 l
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mŠm 40 13 m
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n—n 50 14 n
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samekh 60 15 s
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'ayin 70 16 '
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pŠ 80 17 p (ph)
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sadhe 90 18 s
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q•ph 100 19 q
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rŠsh 200 20 r
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sin 300 21 s
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shin 400 22 sh
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t…w 500 23 t (th)
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Okay, now back to the Tetragrammaton, ineffable name of God:
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hŠ waw hŠ yodh
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5 + 6 + 5 + 10 = 26
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It would seem that the characteristic sum is 26.
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But, rumour has it that the ineffable name of God should be
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arranged precisely like this, don't ask me why:
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yodh = 10 = 10
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hŠ yodh = 5 + 10 = 15
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waw hŠ yodh = 6 + 5 + 10 = 21
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hŠ waw hŠ yodh = 5 + 6 + 5 + 10 = 26 +
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------
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72
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The characteristic sum of the Tetragrammaton is 72 this way.
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Another Hebrew tradition, is that the two letters:
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heth yodh
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8 + 10 = 18
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are the symbol for life. Even today, I know Jewish people
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that wear these two letters, totaling eighteen, on
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necklaces, etc. There's no telling how old this Hebrew ritual
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really is.
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I won't draw any conclusions here but it is interesting to note
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the following least common denominator and least common multiple
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relationships between most of the numbers mentioned above.
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18 = (3 x 6) = (6 x 3) = (9 x 2) = (18 x 1)
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72 = (3 x 24) = (6 x 12) = (9 x 8) = (18 x 4) = (72 x 1)
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666 = (3 x 222) = (6 x 111) = (9 x 74) = (18 x 37) = (37 x 18)
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777 = (3 x 259) = (37 x 21)
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888 = (3 x 296) = (6 x 148) = (37 x 24)
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1080 = (3 x 360) = (6 x 180) = (9 x 120) = (18 x 60) = (72 x 15)
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1746 = (3 x 582) = (6 x 291) = (9 x 194) = (18 x 97)
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2664 = (3 x 888) = (6 x 444) = (9 x 296) = (18 x 148) = (37 x 72) = (72 x 37)
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3168 = (3 x 1056)= (6 x 528) = (9 x 352) = (18 x 176) = (72 x 44)
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5040 = (3 x 1680)= (6 x 840) = (9 x 560) = (18 x 280) = (72 x 70)
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Every number can be divided by 3. All but 777 can be
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divided by 6. I don't think this particular direction
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of endeavor will lead to any powerful sense of meaning though.
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There does appear to be some pattern along the lines of
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the least common denominator though.
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The number 5040 is the number that Plato wrote in "Laws"
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as the number of citizens and land holdings in the city of
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Magnesia. Plato observed that changes in government are
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brought about by changes in music. In "Timaeus" he said that
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"the sight of night and day, of months and the revolving
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years, of equinox and sunset, have caused the invention
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of number...whence we have derived all philosophy".
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Dr. Ernest McClain, the Pythagorean musicologist, believes
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that 5040 is the top note of the musical scale that Plato
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conceals in the structure of "Laws". I don't know about that.
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Particular numbers of interest for the unknown authors were
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18, 37, 72, 192, 352, 365, 666, 777, 888, 1080, 1746, 2080,
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2664 and 3168. The numbers 580, 831, and 1500 don't seem to
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be as frequently used by the authors, although 1500 + 580 = 2080.
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666 seems to have a positive meaning in the scheme of things,
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the exclusive negative interpretation of this symbol does not
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take in to account its association with the Sun. My opinion is
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that someone perverted its meaning along the way, and narrowed
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the focus of its meaning to "the beast". I don't know who.
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Perhaps the more superstitious of the early Christians.
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Besides, the quote from the Bible says its "the number of a man"
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as well, and that's what apparantly started the bruhaha.
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Fudging one above or one below the desired sum didn't seem
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to matter to the unknown writers (I.E. 1081 and 353 seem to
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be as good as 1080 and 352).
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Rumour has it that the 6 x 6 and 8 x 8 magic squares have a
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historical association with the Sun and Mercury, repectively. Perhaps
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it is more than a coincidence that the sum of all the numbers in each
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are 666 and 2080, respectively. Think about the metaphorical
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meaning of the phrases that add up to these two totals. Can anyone
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find more words or phrases that add up to 111, 260, 666 or 1080 ?
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Odd spurious numerical facts: (Draw your own conclusions, if any.)
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72, 666, 1080, 1746, 2664, and 3168 are all multiples of 18.
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666, 888, and 2664 are all multiples of 37, 74, and 111.
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111, and 777 are multiples of 37 and 111.
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1080, 2664, and 3168 are all multiples of 36 and 72.
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192 = (64 x 3) = (48 x 2ý) = (32 x 6)
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666 = (1 + 2 + 3 +...+ 34 + 35 + 36)
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888 + 192 = 1080
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1080 + 666 = 1746
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1746 = (97 x 3ý x 2) = (194 x 3ý) = (291 x 3 x 2) = (582 x 3) = (873 x 2)
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2080 = (1 + 2 +...+ 63 + 64) = (52 x 40) = (13 x 32 x 5) = (260 x 8)
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= (13 x 160)
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2664 = (666 x 2ý) = (888 x 3) = (72 x 37) = (74 x 36)
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= (37 x 2ý x 2 x 3ý) = (18 x 148)
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3168 = (72 x 44) = (9 x 352)
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5040 = (1 x 2 x 3 x 4 x 5 x 6 x 7) = (7 x 8 x 9 x 10)
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Multiples of six seem to matter somehow: 36, 216, 864, 1296, etc.
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Multiples of twelve also: 144, 1728, 20736, 248832, etc.
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í or è represents the ratio of the "golden section"
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in mathmatics. Its value is 1.61803399 and is obtained by
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the formula:
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1 + û5
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------ = í
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2
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Also, as a Fibonacci series progresses further and further,
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(1 + 2 + 3 + 5 + 8 + 13 + 21 +...),
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the ratio between successive numbers approaches asymptotically
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to í. This occurs in sunflowers and seashells, etc.
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Many of these numbers arise when attempting to represent the
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chromatic scale of music in terms of integers and whole numbers.
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Lastly, here are some possible associations between numbers and
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Greek and Roman Gods. (The "ä" means summation here.)
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ä 1,9 = (15 x 3) = 45 Saturn Roman God identified with Greek
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God Kronus (Cronus), a Titan who
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4 9 2 ruled the universe until dethroned
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3 5 7 by his son Zeus, identified with
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8 1 6 the Golden Age.
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ä 1,16 = (34 x 4) = 136 Jupiter Supreme Roman God (Greek Zeus)
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called Jove, brother and husband
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4 14 15 1 of Juno, son of Cronus.
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9 7 6 12
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5 11 10 8
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16 2 3 13
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ä 1,25 = (65 x 5) = 325 Mars Roman God of War (Greek Ares).
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11 24 7 20 3
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4 12 25 8 16
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17 5 13 21 9
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10 18 1 14 22
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23 6 19 2 15
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ä 1,36 = (111 x 6) = 666 The Sun Associated with Titan, child of Uranus
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and Gaia, elder brother of Kronus.
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6 32 3 34 35 1 (Greek God), ancestor of the Titans.
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7 11 27 28 8 30
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19 14 16 15 23 24
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18 20 22 21 17 13
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25 29 10 9 26 12
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36 5 33 4 2 31
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ä 1,49 = (175 x 7) = 1225 Venus Roman Goddess of love and beauty,
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associated with the Greek Goddess
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22 47 16 41 10 35 4 Aphrodite.
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5 23 48 17 42 11 29
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30 6 24 49 18 36 12
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13 31 7 25 43 19 37
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38 14 32 1 26 44 20
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21 39 8 33 2 27 45
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46 15 40 9 34 3 28
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ä 1,64 = (260 x 8) = 2080 Mercury Roman God (Greek Hermes), God of
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travel, commerce, and thievery.
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49 15 14 52 53 11 10 56 Messenger for other Gods.
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41 23 22 44 45 19 18 48
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32 34 35 29 28 38 39 25
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40 26 27 37 36 30 31 33
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17 47 46 20 21 43 42 24
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9 55 54 12 13 51 50 16
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64 2 3 61 60 6 7 57
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ä 1,81 = (369 x 9) = 3321 The Moon Roman Goddess of the Moon, Luna.
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Luna is an Alchemical designation
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37 78 29 70 21 62 13 54 5 for silver as well.
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6 38 79 30 71 22 63 14 46
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47 7 39 80 31 72 23 55 15
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16 48 8 40 81 32 64 24 56
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57 17 49 9 41 73 33 65 25
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26 58 18 50 1 42 74 34 66
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67 27 59 10 51 2 43 75 35
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36 68 19 60 11 52 3 44 76
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77 28 69 20 61 12 53 4 45
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I hope you didn't find this a waste of time. I know it might seem
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like I am a mental case who sees a pattern out of randomly organized
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data, but really who's to say? This IS America, after all.
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Maybe this even elucidates a previously obfuscated ritual or thought
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in your personal system of beliefs, you never know how this
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stuff gets around. You never know what its going to be applied to next.
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Leave messages on The Machine (NY), The BOSS (NJ), Darwin (MD), or
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Cliffside Park (NJ) if you want to get in touch with me. You could
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write to 822 S.E. 15th st. Portland OR, 97214, I pick up mail there.
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Don't write any fanatical tirades though, I don't need any.
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I am interested in finding Greek, Hebrew, Phoenician, etc.,
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words, phrases or anything else that may add up to the numbers 45,
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136, 325, 666, 1225, 2080, 3321, 15, 34, 65, 111, 175, 260, or 369
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in particular at the moment. Any other relevant tidbits of
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knowledge will be welcome.
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uh yes, I am nuts...
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Henry Franzoni 13:56:31 2/17/1988
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